SDN Members don't see this ad. (About Ads) Took my DAT for the third times yesterday. 1st time- 2009 PAT 16 QR 18 RC 19 BIO 16 GC 18 OC 16 TS 17 AA 18 2nd time- 2011 PAT 22 QR 22 RC 16 BIO 16 GC 20 OC 21 TS 19 AA 19 3rd time- 2013 PAT 22 QR 24 RC 16 BIO 18 GC 24 OC 22 TS 20 AA 21 This is my fifth time apply, application submitted and on the 1st batch. sGPA 3.61 cGPA 3.65 Double major: Physic, Chemistry 400+ research, 1000+ dental exp, 1000+ volunteer, 2000+ other health care exp Currently , Im the 3rd on waitlist at one school and 1st on waitlist at another one (sorry, I do not want to name the schools because of their generous for me). I had 3 interviews, all pre-dec. 2011 Cycle, I got only 2 interviews, one rejected and one waitlist- rejected. One pre-dec and one post-dec. Materials I use : Cliff AP 8/10 Baron AP 9/10 DAT Destroyer 7/10, Math Destroyer 10/10 Chad's 10/10 Datbootcamp 9/10 CDP 7/10 Feralis Biology Notes 7/10 On 2nd time, I got these TopScore 6/10, Achiever 5/10 and DQVault (7/10) I decided not to subscribe those again since it's a waste of time. I also had KBB (6/10), did not have time for it. Study time: I studied for about 3 months since I work a full time and a part time job. About 2-3 hours a day for most of the times. No study at all for the weekend, I had to work and participate on a lot of activities. Increase to about 7-9 hours a day on the last week before the test ( I was able to schedule a week off from my full time job) I retook trying to improve the Bio and Reading over the cut off. So I started back on April by reading Baron AP and support it with Cliff (I already had a detail note from last attempt + feralis note) that helping to refresh my bio knowledge. Starting mid of May I subscribed to Chad (waiting for his discount code ) and Datbootcamp. Chad is the man, Gen Chem and Ochem is cover in detail by him. He also helps to avoid topics that have less chance appear on the DAT. I would say that, Do not spread your study time for more than 2 months. You will forget information. 2 weeks before my exam, I started panic because all of my biology knowledge was gone 60%. So I had to spend time to review them all over. I only started doing practice a weeks before the exam. DATbootcamp is really good, they had some type of question similar to the real Average: Bio: 17-20 GC: 18-24 OC: 17-22 Math: 19-22 DATdestroyer go over it only once in 3 days ( 120 Bio/60GC/60OC a day) Just like everyone here said, this is the over kill for Bio. IF you do not have enough time, I would reread the biology Chapter in Cliff or Baron in detail instead waste time to catch some odd facts. However, their GC and OC are really good, that will help you apply the knowledge from Chad to the real one. Average: Bio 66% correct GC 86% correct OC 76% correct DAT Math pretty easy and straightforward. I did only 10 test, They are really the type of questions will be on the real one. The key for QR is time. I know everyone here know how to solve the problem, it is the way to solve them that make different. Average time: 35-40' Average: 36-40 / 40 CDP just practice and practice. The real one is probably harder. Test: 21 24 24 26 22 25 24 ( average 1-2 points higher than last time I studied for it) The more practice the better you will be. On the REAL ONE: It's funny I schedule my test on 7/13/13 at 13:00. Test center is on 12 floor, a quick search show that 85% of the buildings with elevators did not have a floor named the 13th floor hahaha I did not really care much about that, because until now, my fifth time applying GOD is my main supporter, main motivation and the guidance of my mind. ( I would had blown my mind without the communication with him through everyone around me) I once was told by an advisor at a dental school that I should chance my career or seriously talk with a mentor about my career. DO not waste more time in dentistry . It's sad but true, He said, he had never seen a fifth time applicant before. Hahaha he is seeing one this year. At the testing center, there were nearly 30 others students taking the MCAT....seriously 30 MCATers compare to only 2 DATers. BIO: yup, same random, short question, mixing between hard and easy one. CLIFF AND BARON only cover up to 80% of the questions. There were about 5 questions I had no clue and never saw it ever on all of my attempts. I spent way too much time on this sections because it's my main concern. I DO HAVE PLANT, ECOLOGY, EVOLUTION, ANATOMY (5-7 Q) and a bunch on others topics. So, expose yourself to as much as materials as you can on this one. GC and OC Since this is my major, I did not have much problem with it. Only had one question on Molecular Geometry I was not sure about. OC is straightforward and easier than destroyer. Not sure where I got the wrong answers. This time, I only had 4' left (last time about 25' left) on the Science. PAT I started it expected to pull 22+, turn out it's more difficult than last time I took it. Keyhold: really weird shape, way harder than CDP TFE: line counting fail, max of 1 eliminate and waste of time. Harder than CDP I was so confident with PAT, so I did not use the mark. Big mistake as it took me 30' for only 2 sections above. I rushed throught the rest. Angle: easier than CDP Holes: little harder and weird fold you will never seen on CDP. Pattern:about the same. More about shape than pattern. RC I did not know what to do with this one. I did not know how to improve it. 1st one I made 19, read them all and answer question. 2nd time I tried SnD, fail big time with 16. Now I get back to read 3-4 questions, read the pages, and move on when I'd done. Still fail with 16 again. I do not want to use excuse English is my second language because I got higher on my 1st attempt. If you read my breakdown and saw a lot of English mistake, please forgive me as it is the result of 16 RC haha. oh and UNE said they will take the highest section of all attempts. QRI really not study much for this one, expected to pull 22+ because I know there is no way for me to pull up my RC, QR is the other way around. I just love math, I was joined a math club back in undergraduate. Won several state competitions and got scholarship if I switch major to Math. This section is very simple, everyone will be able to solve it. Time is the main factor ( just practice). I was lucky to have only 8-10 word problems. I actually did not use the calculator since it suck big time. I worked the problem out and checked with the answer. Again I was so confident that I did not use the mark and had 5' left for 8 Q. But I was able to finish them all. I was expected to see 30 in this section. Don't know why I ended up with 24. However, as long as it's better, I'm happy. I'm finally done with the DAT. I won't retake it again despite the cut off. So cut off schools are out of my league. Again, I did not contribute much to SDN because I feel so bad about my situation. Looking everyone got accepted on 1st try. All of my predent undergraduate friends, now they are 2 D3; 2 D4; an othor and an Endo. And I'm here posting a breakdown to a predent forum. Hoping other predents do not to give up. It's EASIER SAID THAN DONE. I knew it, but I still go for it If it's really my goal. Dec 1 became the worse day of the year for me. Frustrated, depression and stressful had came and gone. Only GOD and my wife stayed and supporting me. Believed in him, live in him to support others. He will guide you to success. """hop3ds00n""""I hope this year is the time. Big thanks to my wife and everyone post a breakdown to support others. I did have several motivations reading yours Hope all is good. Also, questions are welcome.