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my brother was "randomly" selected for drug testing in our high school every time they ran one....vice principal really didn't like my brother.
Currently selling good, wholesome, clean urine. Hmu. The only drug I need is caffeine.I hear OP is in the market for some good, wholesome, clean urine.
Man, I ain't even on that. You wanna test positive for ginger snaps, OP? PM me.Currently selling good, wholesome, clean urine. Hmu. The only drug I need is caffeine.
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Man, I ain't even on that. You wanna test positive for ginger snaps, OP? PM me.
I haven't had them in months, my supplier cut me off man! I'm clean!Yeah but you just said you eat poppyseed muffins. You're out!
Fine, so I'll test positive for ginger snaps AND joy.Yeah but you just said you eat poppyseed muffins. You're out!
Oh I don't eat poppyseed muffins! I'm back in the race!Fine, so I'll test positive for ginger snaps AND joy.
This entire video is one big inside joke between my best friend and I.
Sooozan?
"I had a monster drink"
Omg dead
"I had a monster drink"
Omg dead
This entire video is one big inside joke between my best friend and I.
Sooozan?
The slippery slope....monster drink, the gateway drug
Just a clarification for everyone..yes my user name makes it seem like I smoke all the time, this a fake account to protect my identity a little which was obviously needed apparently.
The reason I asked is not because I plan on smoke while I'm in school or practicing (though I honestly think both are fine as long as you are responsible about it) I am asking so that I DON'T ruin my admissions, get kicked out of school or anything like that. I'm about to start 4 very tough years so I might as well enjoy my summer before school starts. My friend goes to PA school and knows people in other programs who had to submit urine BEFORE they could be accepted. I just wanted to make sure vet school doesn't have the same policies, so that I don't jeopardize my future. Seems like they don't and its only really an issue if I am smoking while in school and get caught.
As previously stated weed can stay in your system for months and as of right now there is no way of testing if you smoked months ago or the morning of.
As a general question why are people so ok with drinking and not smoking? Just because of legal reasons?
@wheelin2vetmed and @WhtsThFrequency you're awesome!
So you just spelled out the main issue I have with the way marijuana is viewed, that it's 'safer' than alcohol. Marijuana can seriously affect your reflexes, thinking, etc. Just like with alcohol, you can be a varying level of high and be more or less impaired. Some numbers: http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/06/09/marijuana-accidents/10219119/ If you're going to smoke or drink, just don't drive. It's not that hard.I can't think of any other reasons. Honestly, I feel that if alcohol is legal, weed should be too. Alcohol kills SO many people, whether it be from long term drinking and liver problems, to drunk driving, to whatever else there is... I've never heard of someone dying from weed. But I don't drink or smoke (yeah, I'm boring AF), so I can't say for sure It's just a matter of time before it's legal everywhere in the states IMO. But I still don't think it would be appropriate to be high (or drunk for that matter) on the job or in class.
As a general question why are people so ok with drinking and not smoking? Just because of legal reasons?
Just a clarification for everyone..yes my user name makes it seem like I smoke all the time, this a fake account to protect my identity a little which was obviously needed apparently.
The reason I asked is not because I plan on smoke while I'm in school or practicing (though I honestly think both are fine as long as you are responsible about it) I am asking so that I DON'T ruin my admissions, get kicked out of school or anything like that. I'm about to start 4 very tough years so I might as well enjoy my summer before school starts. My friend goes to PA school and knows people in other programs who had to submit urine BEFORE they could be accepted. I just wanted to make sure vet school doesn't have the same policies, so that I don't jeopardize my future. Seems like they don't and its only really an issue if I am smoking while in school and get caught.
As previously stated weed can stay in your system for months and as of right now there is no way of testing if you smoked months ago or the morning of.
As a general question why are people so ok with drinking and not smoking? Just because of legal reasons?
@wheelin2vetmed and @WhtsThFrequency you're awesome!
As previously stated weed can stay in your system for months and as of right now there is no way of testing if you smoked months ago or the morning of.
As a general question why are people so ok with drinking and not smoking? Just because of legal reasons?
I think there's also the consideration that you can drink without being impaired, but you can't really do that with weed. If you aren't high then you might as well not do it, while many people just like drinking but never drink to the point where they're drunk.
Culture wars, mostly. Marijuana wasn't illegal until it was associated with specific racial/immigrant groups and turned into a prohibited substance that could be used to control and punish those minorities who were viewed as a threat to the dominant culture. The history of marijuana prohibition is well documented and full of blatant racist bull****tery.
“There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the U.S., and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others.”
“Reefer makes darkies think they’re as good as white men.”
So you just spelled out the main issue I have with the way marijuana is viewed, that it's 'safer' than alcohol. Marijuana can seriously affect your reflexes, thinking, etc. Just like with alcohol, you can be a varying level of high and be more or less impaired. Some numbers: http://www.usatoday.com/story/money/cars/2014/06/09/marijuana-accidents/10219119/ If you're going to smoke or drink, just don't drive. It's not that hard.
I've seen high kids walk into traffic and not even realize that cars had to slam to a stop until a few seconds after the fact. I've interacted with people who said they were high, but you wouldn't have known otherwise. The same goes for alcohol. Just because a person isn't slurring their words or acting 'high' doesn't mean they are safe behind a wheel.
Agree with this 100%Aside from using a substances and then driving, marijuana IS safer than alcohol. Take it from someone who has a lot of experience firsthand with what chronic alcohol use can do to people's bodies. You don't see people dying from weed overdose, having their livers fail, or getting violent from smoking a bowl and beating the **** out of people (or if you do it is a bizarre and uncommon reaction). Is it still a substance? Absolutely. But it is most definitely not as harmful as alcohol.
I say this as someone who doesn't even like weed. But I dislike stereotypes even more.
I'm not stereotyping anyone. Merely disagreeing with the idea that weed is safer than alcohol. And I still disagree.Aside from using a substances and then driving, marijuana IS safer than alcohol. Take it from someone who has a lot of experience firsthand with what chronic alcohol use can do to people's bodies. You don't see people dying from weed overdose, having their livers fail, or getting violent from smoking a bowl and beating the **** out of people (or if you do it is a bizarre and uncommon reaction). Is it still a substance? Absolutely. But it is most definitely not as harmful as alcohol.
I say this as someone who doesn't even like weed. But I dislike stereotypes even more.
It is safer. Just do some fact-based research.I'm not stereotyping anyone. Merely disagreeing with the idea that weed is safer than alcohol. And I still disagree.
I'm not stereotyping anyone. Merely disagreeing with the idea that weed is safer than alcohol. And I still disagree.
It is safer. Just do some fact-based research.
Think about all the risks with alcohol. Just because people tend to take less of it doesn't mean it's inherently safer. The legality issue is really because the prohibition was such a cluster. (FWIW I have not and will probably not ever do marijuana, but really...prohibition of alcohol didn't work so they tried it on a larger scale with many drugs?)
People take a ton of tylenol, too. There are many, many drugs that are much safer.
Risks:
-impairment
-liver damage
-addiction
-acute alcohol poisoning
-depression
-etc.
But they had a super catchy song, so that's something, right? "D - I won't do drugs, A - won't have an attitude, R - I will respect myself, E - I will educate me nowwwww!" Anyone else remember that song from elementary school?DRUGS ARE BAD. ONLY LOSERS DO DRUGS. JUST SAY NO. D.A.R.E. TO RESIST DRUGS AND VIOLENCE!
What a crap program. I think a lot of us grew up in the heart of it, and it didn't even work - if anything it made it worse.
http://www.livescience.com/33795-effective.html
Oops.
Quoted for truth. You can drink all you want or eat all the pot brownies you want and as long as you don't start falling on me, you're probably not affecting me. But I can't deal with smoke, whether tobacco or marijuana.Someone sits next to me and drinks a beer, doesn't have any effect on me. At all. Someone sits next to me and smokes (regardless of what they are smoking), I cough, gag, my nose reacts, my eyes react, my chest gets tight, etc. That doesn't even touch upon the second hand smoke issues in which research is showing marijuana giving off many of the same carcinogens as tobacco smoking.
This is basically where Canada is right now. We're currently developing a policy for legalization to start next year, which apparently is going to put us in violation of a bunch of international treaties...Our grandchildren will look back at this in the history books and laugh. Tax it, create policy that keeps young children from getting it, administer well designed tests to confirm if someone is on it at the moment for law enforcement or the work place, and call it a day.
I had a friend OD, actually, on edibles. He ended up in the hospital. It's far easier to do on edibles than by smoking.It's just policy and this perpetual war on a substance that's led us to where we are today.
From a toxicological perspective, alcohol and marijuana are so different, it's not even funny. From the angle of addiction, sure, you can abuse weed, but you can also abuse sex, eating, working out, other substances, etc, etc. But you will not kill yourself from an overdose on marijuana.
It's been a prolonged attempt at another prohibition. And as a result, it's created a dangerous black market, bolstered mass incarceration, and led people to believe things that are patently false.
Our grandchildren will look back at this in the history books and laugh. Tax it, create policy that keeps young children from getting it, administer well designed tests to confirm if someone is on it at the moment for law enforcement or the work place, and call it a day.
on a day to day basis, some people will overdo, but many will have a drink or two. That's all I meant.I would argue that people drink a LOT more alcohol than weed if you are comparing incident to incident. Most people really can't and don't smoke that much anymore after they're already high. A single joint is more than enough. Or if you try, you just fall asleep.
But people (especially people in a school environment) can and do go waay passed "buzzed" and will drink obscene amounts and black out, puke, fight, overdose, get arrested, etc all the time. The worst you're going to do if you smoke too much is probably eat a pizza and make some dumb purchase off of Amazon, compared to the **** people get into when they drink too much.
There are a whole lot of people up in this thread that have clearly stayed on the straight and narrow and have never experimented with anything (and shame on anyone who does, it's illegal, etc.)... I suppose it doesn't surprise me. I mean, SDN attracts a specific sort of person, as well.
I guess what I'm saying is that, by and large, we are a buncha goody-goodies.
Or, you just watched drugs destroy the **** out of a family member and was regularly abused by her while she was high. Yeah, I have an opinion on drugs because of that experience.
But, yeah, I get it we're all a bunch of goodie-goodies, myself included.
Or, you just watched drugs destroy the **** out of a family member and was regularly abused by her while she was high. Yeah, I have an opinion on drugs because of that experience.
But, yeah, I get it we're all a bunch of goodie-goodies, myself included.
I had a friend OD, actually, on edibles. He ended up in the hospital. It's far easier to do on edibles than by smoking.
Lol. Who y'all calling goody goody.
You guys make me feel like a fecking degenerate.
He ended up with a concussion as part of it. But yes, mostly monitoring.But what did that entail? Monitoring his vitals and letting him know the boogie monster under his hospital bed wasn't trying to steal his magic marbles?
If he was in really bad shape for alcohol poisoning, that hospital visit wound have been a lot different.
He ended up with a concussion as part of it. But yes, mostly monitoring.
ETA: you do realize I mostly agree with you, right?
My favourite uncle OD'd after a long history of substance abuse, starting with alcohol and marijuana as a teenager. In and out of prison, rehab, left three kids <10y behind when he died. My family also has quite a few alcoholics (and it's something I think about every single time I consider getting a drink when I'm upset). I still think - like with alcohol - there are ways to be responsible with most drugs and the criminalization causes more problems than it solves.
And full disclosure - I am the goody goody of my group of friends, and get (good-natured) **** for it fairly regularly.