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I am sorry I hurt your feelings.
c'mon bro. do you even verbal?
I am sorry I hurt your feelings.
True, but best of luck knowing exactly what you'll want to match in (and end up matching in it) before you go to med school. Ask anyone who makes it through med school at how many of their classmates ended up matching (or wanting to go into) what they thought they did as a premed, or ask any of our residents and attendings on this site. Truthfully, you are very unlikely to accurately know what you want to go into when you're choosing a school. Sure picking a place with a broad range of specialties is a fair method, but that might mean you end up going into primary care and passed up a lower prestige and ranked school that would have given you amazing training for that path and better matching into that specialty.Take note: Many of the people saying prestige etc. doesn't matter went to their highest ranked school.
FWIW I think that if your school doesn't have a program in X and you want to match into X that's a serious disadvantage. If you have home programs that's the main thing. If you look at the top 5 students from a top 50 they'll have matched better than the average student at top schools.
Point being if you work hard you can still go where you want to go, it just might be harder.
That being said, if you look at the top 10% of a lot of medium-tier schools their MCAT is also higher than the median at a lot of top places, so that's something to consider. Not that the people that match the best have the best MCAT, but it wouldn't surprise me if the top 10 MCAT scorers had a ~50% overlap with the top 10 matchers, using the MCAT largely as a proxy for ability to put up with junk you hate. A crucial attribute for matching into a great residency .
I'm just really tired of hearing the term elite med schools as if they are the only option for becoming a physician who can make a difference. Unfortunately, it kinda makes me feel like my own school I will be attending next fall isn't good enough in comparison, and I worked really hard to get there. I understand there will always be someone smarter than me, but just kinda makes me feel bad about myself. End random rant.
If you're going to lecture to people about medical school prestige, you should really try to have your facts correct on how much the prestige and reputation of your medical school plays into the residency match. I can't believe you got likes on your post.This is the biggest sham of today's medical premed age. Every one is neurotic about the name behind their school. In the real medical world, inside the hospital, pretty much no one cares. No layman is going to stop you at Kroger and follow up with a question, "Did you got o Duke?" after you tell them you're a doctor when they originally asked you what you did for a living.
At the hospital that I volunteer at, there are so many DOs with white coats. Does that make the hospital third tier trash because not everyone went to UCSF or Harvard? No, people get excellent medical care there. Not to belittle people who aspire to get into UCSF or Harvard, if that's their goal. Just don't think you won't be anything if you don't make it there. Think real hard of why do you want to be a doctor.
I have good enough stats for a top _____ schools. But guess what? You will put your bottom dollar I'm applying to all the DO schools in my state and the public state schools that aren't in US Today's Top whatever list.
I think you'll make a great physician no matter where you go. Keep your head up and your drive strong.
Except where you match and get interviews for residency is very much affected by where you do med school.Where you do residency is far more important than where you do medical school.
I wouldn't say that, but most of the Harvard grads on doctor's diaries lived pretty standard, if dull, upper-middle class lives. It's not like going to a top med school elevates one to godliness anywayIt's not where you go, it's what you do there. Most people who go to Harvard, like all other places, don't accomplish much. True story.
Any sources for this? I don't see how you can somehow claim to understand every part of the match in order to draw the conclusions that matches from high prestige schools are generally less competitive than ones from schools of lower prestige.If you're going to lecture to people about medical school prestige, you should really try to have your facts correct on how much the prestige and reputation of your medical school plays into the residency match. I can't believe you got likes on your post.
People who go to higher prestige medical schools do not have to be as high at the top when it comes to class ranking, board scores, etc. in order to match when it comes to competitive specialties. They're given much more leeway and benefit of the doubt.
To keep it short - prestige and reputation of your medical school matters. The End.
Any sources for this? I don't see how you can somehow claim to understand every part of the match in order to draw the conclusions that matches from high prestige schools are generally less competitive than ones from schools of lower prestige.
Any sources for this? I don't see how you can somehow claim to understand every part of the match in order to draw the conclusions that matches from high prestige schools are generally less competitive than ones from schools of lower prestige.
I'm just really tired of hearing the term elite med schools as if they are the only option for becoming a physician who can make a difference. Unfortunately, it kinda makes me feel like my own school I will be attending next fall isn't good enough in comparison, and I worked really hard to get there. I understand there will always be someone smarter than me, but just kinda makes me feel bad about myself. End random rant.
At least this is what my father has told me.My father is an employer for two Emergency Departments.
It doesn't matter where you go. better schools are mainly in terms of research (think PhD). the minimum education standard for doctors is so high (partly because of government regulation) that its difficult for one to technically be "better".
When you are trying to get a job, they really don't where you went, if your a D.O. or M.D. just go where you geographically want and consider cheaper tuitions.
To swing this pendulum back to center...
Yes, the ranking systems are flawed.
Yes, you can be a great doctor wherever you go.
But let's not pretend that the quality of your education and training is unimportant.
There are real differences in quality, in opportunity. There are schools that do a much better job than others. Medical education is not a homogenous conveyor belt.
I would hope everyone cares about the quality of their training. To pretend it plays no role is ignorant.
It doesn't matter where you went to medical school for a job after you've completed training. At that point what matters is where you did your residency and/or fellowship, or where you have been working.My father is an employer for two Emergency Departments (and Emergency Physician MD).
It doesn't matter where you go. better schools are mainly in terms of research (think PhD). the minimum education standard for doctors is so high (partly because of government regulation) that its difficult for one to technically be "better".
When you are trying to get a job, they really don't where you went, if your a D.O. or M.D. just go where you geographically want and consider cheaper tuitions.
Thanks for the input!It doesn't matter where you went to medical school for a job after you've completed training. At that point what matters is where you did your residency and/or fellowship, or where you have been working.
That's a separate issue, though somewhat related as you might have an easier time getting matched to a superior residency from a well known university.
I turned down an "elite" acceptance to attend my state school. Prestige can't beat free money, yo.