FAQ: What are my chances?

[DragonDO]

Hello everyone!
I am a US MS4 MD wanting to be realistic. Step 1 is 219. My step 1 Uworld exams at the time were 240 and 242. Still irritates me when I think about it too long.
Honored IM and Peds. Only H or P at my school. Have taken 7 Shelf exams and averaged 68 percentile nationally. Step 2 results pending. No research. I am thinking about the field. Obviously my goal would be to get into the field and not to be picky. Advice would be appreciated. Specific programs that are realistic for me would be helpful. Open to PM. Thank you!

If your step 2 improves, I will still apply broadly for rads. If your step 2 score is mediocre, I would think a back-up plan.

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[suitup!]

If your step 2 improves, I will still apply broadly for rads. If your step 2 score is mediocre, I would think a back-up plan.

Thank you. I will be getting my score next week. Fingers crossed. Hopefully my score will be similar to the percentiles I got on my shelf exams. How much improvement do you think?

 

[DragonDO]

Thank you. I will be getting my score next week. Fingers crossed. Hopefully my score will be similar to the percentiles I got on my shelf exams. How much improvement do you think?

Anywhere above +10 is good. I am not sure how others think. Lower the step 1 score, more of a room to improve.

 

[PL198]

If your step 2 improves, I will still apply broadly for rads. If your step 2 score is mediocre, I would think a back-up plan.

Meh 219 is doable with applying broadly. Look at the match stats. Pretty sure like 90 % of people with 200-220 matched and he/she is obviously on high end of that range

 

[suitup!]

Anywhere above +10 is good. I am not sure how others think. Lower the step 1 score, more of a room to improve.

Meh 219 is doable with applying broadly. Look at the match stats. Pretty sure like 90 % of people with 200-220 matched and he/she is obviously on high end of that range

I am hopeful for an improvement on Step 2. I am glad about seeing those numbers. I am a little worried about my score being a 219. I see some residencies state a cutoff of 220. I am just wondering about all the other programs that may have a cutoff internally, but do not state it on Frieda or on their website.

 

[suitup!]

Anywhere above +10 is good. I am not sure how others think. Lower the step 1 score, more of a room to improve.

Meh 219 is doable with applying broadly. Look at the match stats. Pretty sure like 90 % of people with 200-220 matched and he/she is obviously on high end of that range

I got a 20pt jump on step2 ck. I can live with that.

 

[spinesign]

Posting again w/ updates:

School: Top 30
Grades: 4H, 2HP, 1P. Honors in radiology rotations.
Step 1: 250-260
Step 2: 250-260
Research: 3 publications (one in nature - cardiology related, one rad related, one from undergrad. no first author), 5 posters, 6 experiences
Work: 2 experiences
Volunteer: 2 experiences
No AOA
Should have strong LORs

Any chance of interviewing at top programs? Or should I just save money and only apply to mid tier? Applying to DR only.

 

[spinesign]

Posting again w/ updates:

School: Top 30
Grades: 4H, 2HP, 1P. Honors in radiology rotations.
Step 1: 250-260
Step 2: 250-260
Research: 3 publications (one in nature - cardiology related, one rad related, one from undergrad. no first author), 5 posters, 6 experiences
Work: 2 experiences
Volunteer: 2 experiences
No AOA
Should have strong LORs

Any chance of interviewing at top programs? Or should I just save money and only apply to mid tier? Applying to DR only.

Brigham and Women's Hospital, Brown, Case Western Reserve University, Duke, Emory, Mount Sinai Program, Hopkins, Mass Gen, MUSC, Cornell, NYU, OHSU, UPenn, Stanford, Tulane, UCLA, UCSD, UCSF, U Chicago, U Maryland, U Michigan, U North Carolina, UVA, U Wash, UPMC, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest, Yale

Any thoughts on current list?

 

[Fenixak]

Hey all, want some honest opinions.

Mid tier MD, PF school. No honors. 3 published articles and like 6 published abstracts.

Low 230s step 1, and here is what hurts my heart. Just got the same score for step 2.

I have a lot of interesting EC stuff that sets me apart, but I'm feeling like my step scores basically exclude me from a lot of good programs.

Anyone have insight they can provide?


Edit: from the future... so I was able to acquire 19 interview invites with 2 IR and 2 top 20 programs. All the rest af the programs are very solid mid tier academic programs in the Midwest and east coast. Applied to 45 schools.

 

[Med1415]

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[CorneliaSt]

Hey all, want some honest opinions.

Mid tier MD, PF school. No honors. 3 published articles and like 6 published abstracts.

Low 230s step 1, and here is what hurts my heart. Just got the same score for step 2.

I have a lot of interesting EC stuff that sets me apart, but I'm feeling like my step scores basically exclude me from a lot of good programs.

Anyone have insight they can provide?

You still have a great shot at mid tier programs and should still apply to top 30 programs in your region of interest as you should still have a shot.

 

[CorneliaSt]

Brigham and Women's Hospital, Brown, Case Western Reserve University, Duke, Emory, Mount Sinai Program, Hopkins, Mass Gen, MUSC, Cornell, NYU, OHSU, UPenn, Stanford, Tulane, UCLA, UCSD, UCSF, U Chicago, U Maryland, U Michigan, U North Carolina, UVA, U Wash, UPMC, Vanderbilt, Wake Forest, Yale

Any thoughts on current list?

Looks like a solid list for your app. You should get interviews at many of those places including the top ones.

 

[Fenixak]

You still have a great shot at mid tier programs and should still apply to top 30 programs in your region of interest as you should still have a shot.

Regarding my step 2 being the same as step 1...how big of a red flag is that in your opinion?

 

[CorneliaSt]

Regarding my step 2 being the same as step 1...how big of a red flag is that in your opinion?

Wouldn't call it a "red flag" but obviously not optimal. It tough to tell how much programs truly care about step 2ck. It may hurt you at the top programs but you still have a solid app for mid tier academic programs.

 

[Fenixak]

Wouldn't call it a "red flag" but obviously not optimal. It tough to tell how much programs truly care about step 2ck. It may hurt you at the top programs but you still have a solid app for mid tier academic programs.

Thank you for your insight

 

[josecanseco]

Likely doing a last minute switch to radiology from a surgical subspecialty. I had early shadowing experience, etc. with radiology but did not pursue it enough to make connections later in med school which I now regret. Step scores in the 220-230 range. Mostly Honors and HP in clerkships at a big-name institution/school. Couple first author pubs in surgical field, couple submitted papers and a couple of abstracts/posters in non-radiology research. Letters are from 3 surgical subspecialists and 1 from a gen surgeon. Potentially could get one from a radiologist but it would likely be uploaded later. I've applied to some prelim-surgery and TY programs already. Anyways...do I have a shot at mid-tier and community programs in the Midwest and NE? Is there a resource on here/elsewhere to find out which of these programs are better than others? Appreciate any help/advice!

 

[Fenixak]

Likely doing a last minute switch to radiology from a surgical subspecialty. I had early shadowing experience, etc. with radiology but did not pursue it enough to make connections later in med school which I now regret. Step scores in the 220-230 range. Mostly Honors and HP in clerkships at a big-name institution/school. Couple first author pubs in surgical field, couple submitted papers and a couple of abstracts/posters in non-radiology research. Letters are from 3 surgical subspecialists and 1 from a gen surgeon. Potentially could get one from a radiologist but it would likely be uploaded later. I've applied to some prelim-surgery and TY programs already. Anyways...do I have a shot at mid-tier and community programs in the Midwest and NE? Is there a resource on here/elsewhere to find out which of these programs are better than others? Appreciate any help/advice!

Dude it looks like you are in a similar boat as me. Except I didn't honor a lot of clerkships, and have a little more research than you. From what my attending and residents have been saying, mid tier schools are completely reachable (whatever they are) and that I should still apply to top 20. It seems crazy to me, but they said I should expect a few interviews from those top 20. According to the 2016 charting outcomes, it shows people in our step range as having a 95+% chance to match. So you will almost positively find a program. Regarding which to apply to? Well thats up to you. You can search through this and other forums if you have questions about specific schools. Also, doximity or other similar residency review/ranking lists can give you some extra info. Try talking with some of your attendings. Sometimes they'll make phone calls on your behalf.

Just fyi, it seems that the midwest is the easiest region to match in. There are just so many programs concentrated into a smaller region (compared to the pacific northwest for example).

 

[josecanseco]

Dude it looks like you are in a similar boat as me. Except I didn't honor a lot of clerkships, and have a little more research than you. From what my attending and residents have been saying, mid tier schools are completely reachable (whatever they are) and that I should still apply to top 20. It seems crazy to me, but they said I should expect a few interviews from those top 20. According to the 2016 charting outcomes, it shows people in our step range as having a 95+% chance to match. So you will almost positively find a program. Regarding which to apply to? Well thats up to you. You can search through this and other forums if you have questions about specific schools. Also, doximity or other similar residency review/ranking lists can give you some extra info. Try talking with some of your attendings. Sometimes they'll make phone calls on your behalf.

Just fyi, it seems that the midwest is the easiest region to match in. There are just so many programs concentrated into a smaller region (compared to the pacific northwest for example).

Yeah I think the challenge is finding places without breaking the bank and applying everywhere. Definitely a challenge but I'm optimistic. Any resources on how to look at reviews would be appreciated (not much in the sdn review thread)

 

[Fenixak]

Yeah I think the challenge is finding places without breaking the bank and applying everywhere. Definitely a challenge but I'm optimistic. Any resources on how to look at reviews would be appreciated (not much in the sdn review thread)

Personally I found just looking at old posts on SDN/Aunt Minnie to be super helpful. There are a lot of burried posts that talk about schools in X region and so on. Also I talk to my attendings and residents. Its nice because a lot of them will tell me where they studied and offer to call on my behalf.

 

[totallyskates]

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[redoitall]

Special Situation: Currently a surgery resident in my PGY3 year. Applying to radiology due to a mis-fit situation.

Academically you are obviously fit, and the numbers won't be the issue. Not an expert but my understanding in these situations is to articulate the reasons for such a change of heart. I'd like to say that I am an older student, former researcher with a PhD who decided to "go back to Med School". Constantly the discussions evolved around the reason for a change in career.

 

[JonnyTalsma]

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[Director1]

Have some good tips for students applying to radiology. I.e how do you deal with dean's letter, etc. Gives some credible insight on the importance of the different parts of the application for radiology, in particular. Check out radsresident.com

I think the majority of applicants have a general idea of what programs looking for in applicants. Every year people post their stats and ask about their chances, perhaps seeking a little reassurance. It's ok I've been there myself.

Good news for future applicants rads is relatively less competitive than its peak 2-3 years ago, as less people are applying for the same number of spots (self-selection?).

Obviously what the programs want: High board scores, High class rank/AOA, good letters of recommendation, research (any kind, but obviously meaningful rads research is better). These factors determine whether you are invited for an interview.

Boards: Step 1 >= 240 will give you a good chance of matching somewhere. 220 is generally the effective minimum cut off for an interview.

Step 2 counts less than step 1, because not all people are required to take it at the time of application. A good step 2 can help offset a bad step1, but again, its preferrable to do well on step 1 in the first place. If you did well on step 1, and you aren't required to take step 2 before you apply, then don't take it. If you have to take it, try to do as well or better than on your step 1.

Grades: Obviously the higher the better. AOA status gives you a high likelihood of matching, probably at one of your top choices. First quartile will give you a good probability of matching somewhere. Try to be at least in the top half of your class.

Letters: try to have good letters of rec. They don't have to be from radiology faculty. Its best to get a great letter from a bigwig. Next best thing is a great letter from a nobody. A generic letter from a bigwig is meaningless.

Research: it matters if you want to go to a big research institution. But realistically how much time do you have to do productive (leading to publication) research in medical school? If you get published you are exceptional. Basic research is the most impressive followed by clinical followed by case reports. Again, your research doesn't have to be in radiology, but if it is, even better.

Lastly reputation of school: If you come from a highranking/ivy school, it may impress some lower ranking programs, and some of those high ranking programs like to take there own. If you are from a state or lower ranking school, it won't hurt you, as long as you have everything I've mentioned before.

IMG status is a hurdle, as most programs like to take well qualified american grads over well qualified IMGs. If you are an american citizen and an IMG, it will raise the question of why you didn't go to an American med school.
I've seen some stellar IMGs come through that ended up matching at some top programs because these people were rockstars in their own country.

There is still probably bias against DO's.

Again, if the more of the afformentioned stats you have the better. Average boards can be offset by having good stats in everything else. Average grades can be off set by good boards. Etc.

Again these factors will get you an interview. If you get an interview, congrats, you're in the running. If you don't come off as a total tool, a bore, or a boor, you will get ranked. A good interview won't necessarily trump the afformentioned factors unless you have cult-leader charisma. I've seen that bump an 'average' candidate into the top ranks. But again, your interview performance will not drastically alter your ranking. Usually ranks are based on the first factors, modified by your interview performance.

Ok... number of programs: obviously the more you apply to, the more interviews you are likely to get. The more you get the more likely you will match somewhere.
If you are competitive aim for 20-25 programs so you get 10-12 interviews. If you are less competitve go higher, try to get more interviews. If you don't think you are a competitive applicant, you can hail mary and apply very broadly, and go to as many interviews as you can afford. There are regional biases. You're best chance of matching is in your home region. As an outsider it takes an act of god to match in california. Its also pretty competitive to match in the big cities in the northeast, because a lot of people end up applying there. As an outsider it is probably easiest to match in the midwest and southeast.

Anyways, thats all I have time to contribute at the time. Please, please future applicants read this and use the search function before you ask a question that has been asked, and ANSWERED before.

Ultimately your chances are based on the factors mentioned above. Nothing is 100% but if you have all the factors above you have a very high chance of matching, if you lack a lot of the factors above, your chances are slim. If you are somewhere in between then your chances will be somewhere inbetween.

Good luck , I'll post more when I can!

 

[DaTruMD]

Applying into DR this cycle. Stats aren't too exciting: H in med and ob/gyn, med subi, electives, otherwise HP throughout. Step 1 of 231. Some research experience but was mostly involved in community service. Top 10 medical school. Sent out my app to 25 programs, still haven't heard back from any except my home program which is an auto-invite. At what point should I be worried? Should I send out more applications? I also haven't heard back from transitional years/prelims... sigh.

It's still early.

 

[Bayonetwork]

Thought Id give this a go since Im one of (few) in this thread who is in the gray zone (i.e. not >250 + AOA and not <210 IMG):
USMD- Step 1: mid 220's; Step 2: low 230s
Clinical Grades: All A's, no honors; no away rotations in Rads
No research, average LORs, average EC's but solid work hx
Applied to ~100 programs (DR and IR) all academic; not a peep yet, not even for prelims

Anyone with a similar story have any luck with DR?

 

[jorts42]

Thought Id give this a go since Im one of (few) in this thread who is in the gray zone (i.e. not >250 + AOA and not <210 IMG):
USMD- mid/lower tier school
Step 1: mid 220's; Step 2: mid 230s; Rank: bottom quartile
Clinical Grades: All A's, no honors; no away rotations in Rads
No research, average LORs, average EC's but solid work hx
Applied to ~100 programs (DR and IR) all academic; not a peep yet, not even for prelims

Anyone with a similar story have any luck with DR?

If the competitiveness went up as much as everyone is saying it did, I think you need to send out some apps to community programs. I have a step score higher than yours and have mostly gotten community invites so far.

 

[Bayonetwork]

If the competitiveness went up as much as everyone is saying it did, I think you need to send out some apps to community programs. I have a step score higher than yours and have mostly gotten community invites so far.

Yeah I was starting to think the same thing. I have no idea what community programs are worth applying to other than location. Did you have any specific criteria for the community programs you applied to?

 

[jorts42]

Yeah I was starting to think the same thing. I have no idea what community programs are worth applying to other than location. Did you have any specific criteria for the community programs you applied to?

Nope just location

 

[ATypicalLymphocyte]

Hi everyone. No idea where to post this but I just received my Step 2 CK score and am re-sending the USMLE transcripts. How should I (in case I should) go about telling programs to look at my updated application? Or would they be notified?

 

[med_2018]

School: Year 3 DO
Class rank: Top 10
Step 1: 244, COMLEX 1: 729
Step 2: July 2017
Clerkships: in progress
Research: 1 experience, no pubs/posters yet

Low, mid, or top tier? Community or university program?
Particularly interested in Baylor COM, UT Houston, Methodist Houston, U Utah, UW, Virginia Mason, UVA.

 

[jorts42]

School: Year 3 DO
Class rank: Top 10
Step 1: 244, COMLEX 1: 729
Step 2: July 2017
Clerkships: in progress
Research: 1 experience, no pubs/posters yet

Low, mid, or top tier? Community or university program?
Particularly interested in Baylor COM, UT Houston, Methodist Houston, U Utah, UW, Virginia Mason, UVA.

It's going to be difficult to get accurate advice until we know how competitive the 2017 cycle was after March. If this rise in competitiveness continues, DOs may get squeezed out of some of those strong programs.

 

[Transposony]

Hi everyone. No idea where to post this but I just received my Step 2 CK score and am re-sending the USMLE transcripts. How should I (in case I should) go about telling programs to look at my updated application? Or would they be notified?

AFAIK they will be notified but this is the thread to ask (but has been answered there many times).

 

[Geraltofrivia]

DO Student
Class rank: Top 50%
Step 1: 225 (COMLEX 500)
Step 2: Will be in July
Clerkships: Third year now

Should I think of a different career or is rads something I could still get into?

 

[recycledpaper]

School: Year 3 DO
Class rank: Top 10
Step 1: 244, COMLEX 1: 729
Step 2: July 2017
Clerkships: in progress
Research: 1 experience, no pubs/posters yet

Low, mid, or top tier? Community or university program?
Particularly interested in Baylor COM, UT Houston, Methodist Houston, U Utah, UW, Virginia Mason, UVA.

As a DO, top-tier is immediately r/o'd due to bias. That being said, we can still get some pretty nice mid-tier programs if we're not terribly picky about location. But like one poster said, given the new integrated IR programs, competitiveness is still up in the air. See how the upperclassmen in your score match, and plan accordingly. But you can definitely match DR with those stats. Good luck!

 

[recycledpaper]

DO Student
Class rank: Top 50%
Step 1: 225 (COMLEX 500)
Step 2: Will be in July
Clerkships: Third year now

Should I think of a different career or is rads something I could still get into?

You need to crush Step 2 to improve your chances. There is no shortage of 245+ Step 1 DO students so you need to make up for a mediocre Step 1 with stellar CK scores. Strong LORs too, of course.

 

[Bayonetwork]

Thought Id give this a go since Im one of (few) in this thread who is in the gray zone (i.e. not >250 + AOA and not <210 IMG):
USMD- Step 1: mid 220's; Step 2: low 230s; Rank: bottom quartile (1 failed class)
Clinical Grades: All A's, no honors; no away rotations in Rads
No research, average LORs, average EC's but solid work hx
Applied to ~80 programs (DR and IR) all academic; not a peep yet, not even for prelims (applied to 25 programs)

Update- added Step 2 score; nail in the coffin?

 

[Strawman123]

Update- added Step 2 score; nail in the coffin?

What is your backup if you fail to get interviews and/or match in radiology?

 

[CorneliaSt]

Update- added Step 2 score; nail in the coffin?

I feel like you should still be able to match somewhere with those scores. The one failed class is a bit of a red flag. The step 2 score doesn't help but doesn't hurt. If you still haven't garnered many interviews at this point you should consider talking to your home PD. They might be able put in some calls to help you out. Would recommend throwing in apps to community programs in less competitive geographic regions if you haven't done that yet. Matching into TY or prelim med could be difficult for you depending on how many you applied to (hopefully 20 or more). Those seem to get more competitive every year.

 

[Bayonetwork]

What is your backup if you fail to get interviews and/or match in radiology?

Do a prelim year, reapply and consider a backup. Though Id rather pursue non-clinical work at that point.

I feel like you should still be able to match somewhere with those scores. The one failed class is a bit of a red flag. The step 2 score doesn't help but doesn't hurt. If you still haven't garnered many interviews at this point you should consider talking to your home PD. They might be able put in some calls to help you out. Would recommend throwing in apps to community programs in less competitive geographic regions if you haven't done that yet. Matching into TY or prelim med could be difficult for you depending on how many you applied to (hopefully 20 or more). Those seem to get more competitive every year.

My school doesn't have a home rads program so I don't have that luxury. I have apps out to at least 25 prelim IM programs and should at the very least get into my home prelim program. I applied to ~10 community DR programs in less competitive geographic regions along with ~80 academic DR programs. Im in the southeast so at least my geographic area is not Cali, NY, TX, etc.

 

[Godvile]

IMG
YOG: 2016
Step 1: 251
Step 2 CK: 253
Step 2 CS: not yet.
USCE: 1 month cardio
Research: 3 pubs, not in radio.
Need Visa

Do I have any chances for radiology next year ?

 

[memberradiology1010]

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[blueshockey]

Your thoughts would be appreciated, thank you.

School: Top 30-40 NE
Step1: 236
Step2: Not yet -- Aiming for 250+ (I had a bad testing day during step1)
Clerkships: Current 3rd year (can realistically get 3-4 honors out of 6 required clerkships)
Research: One 1st author pub (review paper), potentially 2 more 1st author pubs by the end of 3rd year.
EC: Multiple activities

What are my chances at BU, BWH, NYU, Columbia, Cornell, Baylor, UTSW, UW, UCLA, Stanford, NC, UChicago, Northwestern?
What other academic programs should I consider? (I'm considering an academic career, and would prefer to be at an established academic institution)
Would a 250+ on step2 offer me a reasonable shot for interviewing at a top radiology program?

The research you have is definitely beneficial, but the interview season has been pretty brutal so far. People that I would expect to get interviews from top places aren't getting them everywhere if they're even getting them at all. Stanford, UTSW, UW, NYU, and BWH would honestly be a stretch (but obviously you should still apply). I have missed out on multiple waves of invites from UTSW and the first wave from BWH, and a rejection from Penn; my stats are ~260/270+ to give some perspective but I don't have that much research. Most of the others you mentioned (minus maybe UCLA) would definitely be in your wheelhouse for competitiveness though. It's looking like radiology is seeing jump in competitiveness this year. It's not like you wouldn't have a shot at top places though, realistically you should spend the extra cash and throw a few more reaches in there.

 

[Derv]

Your thoughts would be appreciated, thank you.

School: Top 30-40 NE
Step1: 236
Step2: Not yet -- Aiming for 250+ (I had a bad testing day during step1)
Clerkships: Current 3rd year (can realistically get 3-4 honors out of 6 required clerkships)
Research: One 1st author pub (review paper), potentially 2 more 1st author pubs by the end of 3rd year.
EC: Multiple activities

What are my chances at BU, BWH, NYU, Columbia, Cornell, Baylor, UTSW, UW, UCLA, Stanford, NC, UChicago, Northwestern?
What other academic programs should I consider? (I'm considering an academic career, and would prefer to be at an established academic institution)
Would a 250+ on step2 offer me a reasonable shot for interviewing at a top radiology program?

I have similar stats to you and applied to 6 of those listed programs. Got interviews at 3/6 of them so far. Conversely, my classmate who is AOA and had 240s/250s applied to like 8-9 of those and only has 2 of them. Its a total crapshoot dude. You won't lose anything but money by trying and seeing what happens.

 

[memberradiology1010]

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[azthio119]

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[Bman570]

Current 3rd year
Low tier MD program
Step 1: 230
Step 2: hoping/expecting to get above 230
2 posters, expecting 2-3 case studies by the end of the year
Rotations: Don't get grades until later this year
What are my chances of getting into any rads program in nyc/nj? - Thanks

 

[jorts42]

Current 3rd year
Low tier MD program
Step 1: 230
Step 2: hoping/expecting to get above 230
2 posters, expecting 2-3 case studies by the end of the year
Rotations: Don't get grades until later this year
What are my chances of getting into any rads program in nyc/nj? - Thanks

High. Hopefully you do well on Step 2 but there's so many programs in that geographic area and some of them are not that competitive

 

[Bman570]

High. Hopefully you do well on Step 2 but there's so many programs in that geographic area and some of them are not that competitive

Thanks for the response!

 

[Paeon]

School: US MD-Not ranked, probably low tier
Step 1: 240
Step 2: Hoping to get above 250
AOA status: Nope
Rotations: High pass in peds until now. Have not gone through other rotations.
Research: All of them in basic sciences. One during medical school in physiology + about 5 different research projects during undergrad (do these even count??), some are related to medicine others are not. Oral presentations and poster presentations during undergrad.

1. To what type of program should I be focusing my attention?
2. What should I be doing to increase my chances?

 

[entrepreneurMD]

Trying to couples match in Texas with a heavy NE background (Undergrad in NE and Med school in NE) both in Radiology

Me: 258, All honors except IM & Ob, 3 Radiology publications. Step 2: not taken yet but same range
Her: 254, Mix of pass and high pass (much harder to honors at her school), no publications but did research. Step 2: hasn't taken it

1. Planning to apply to all Texas schools with 1 away. What are our chances? Specially interested in UTSW, UT H, Baylor Dallas, Baylor Houston, Methodist Houston

2. also open to UMiami, NC area, Cali areas

Boston and NYC are lower on our list because we feel comfortable matching there