I decided to join a fraternity freshman year to have a social side of college and hold a leadership position starting sophomore year. Formal recruitment at my school starts in October rather than August like most schools around me. After the third (last) round of recruitment I got my bid to a top-tier fraternity. Monday, in my chem lab, I was talking to another premed (female mind you) in my group about recruitment and how excited I was to be in the fraternity.
Me: Yeah I pledged XYZ (not actual letters)
Premed 1: Oh really? That's awesome! Good luck with classes though!
Me: I know, it's a major commitment. But once I get through this semester and get initiated, it will be all worth it.
Premed 1: Well, med schools will put it against you for joining and might reject you
Me: Oh really, why so?
Premed 1: Well, to start, it takes a lot of time and med schools hate it when you do stuff outside volunteering and studying for classes. They wanna see that you're committed to becoming a doctor! Also they will think you're an alcoholic so they might make you explain that.
Me:
Premed 2 (a guy, not even in our group, decided to chime in with his words of wisdom): Yeah man, I was in a frat once. Too much time constraint so I failed all my classes and had to reapply to get back in here.
Me: Didn't you not get academic probation first? (which is policy at my university before they kick you out)
Premed 2: Nah man that was the second time I failed out. Besides, if I work really hard these next two years and get my pre-reqs done, I'll have something like a 2.6 GPA then I'll just apply to a bunch of schools until they let me in.
Me: [I was too dumbfounded to even respond. I didn't even know where to begin]
Premed 1: Yeah! Because of fraternities he's gotta bounce back!
Me: You know fraternities want you to pass? The one I pledged to requires at least a 2.75 GPA and 9 required study hours a week
Premed 2: Yeah man I didn't go to any of those [study hours]. Also, I just hung around at the house and drank all day. Except the week before an exam.
Me:
Premed 1: Yeah do you wanna end up like that?
Me: No, I don't wanna end up like [Premed 2], I wanna end up like Adam, who's the president of XYZ and is going to Med school this fall.
At that point, it was made-up statistics about how greeks fail out and how they don't know anything outside of fraternity. True for some, but if you're in a top-tier fraternity, they cut out the bull**** and want men that can lead to excel and make strong connections. I ended dropping the fraternity 2 months later due to time constraint and money issues. Premed 1 ended up failing Chem 1 and the lab and switching to a business major. Premed 2 went on the Gen chem II with Lab but failed and got kicked out.