Just curious--what kind of parties were these lab parties? I've heard of everything from "sitting around awkwardly with a plate of food" to "come to my house and I'll make you dinner and margaritas" to "everyone doing shots and dancing."
Personally, I would, I am a big guy, so I know I could kick back at least 3 beers within a 1 hour time frame and be fine.
At least have 2! Unless you meant the one scotch was your "eye-opener"
I agree. No one on here posted it (though I assume it was the impetus for the thread), but there's a lot of weird reactions to this kind of thing in our field. It always seemed to me like overgeneralizing from client work.
Catholic universities, that's where the heavy drinking occurs. I went to one my first year of undergrad and ended up with a 2.0 average that year mainly because of the free-flowing beer.We have an annual/bi-annual party at one of the prof's houses, and there's usually a "boat full of beer." I wouldn't say anybody gets truly toasted, but I definitely had a few. I also go to a humanistic university, so getting drunk with these people would probably be pretty tame
You got me!
Catholic universities, that's where the heavy drinking occurs. I went to one my first year of undergrad and ended up with a 2.0 average that year mainly because of the free-flowing beer.
That was only when we were altar boys and stole it from the back room of the church.
How do you get IRB approval for this kind of study where the researchers are the participants? It could be a good research question though. How does problematic ETOH use affect the productivity of grad students?
It also depends on the setting, like if you were hammered at your poster session or something that isn't kosher but the xmas party...okay...lol.
I've been drunk in front of my mentor and other faculty members and that is totally normal here! [...] I think our lab/program are mildly inappropriate but I love it
I feel cray cray now after reading all these responses, I've been drunk in front of my mentor and other faculty members and that is totally normal here! As long as you don't make a scene but being drunk and silly is okay. I think our lab/program are mildly inappropriate but I love it
For someone getting inebriated and sexually harassing someone else. Or any number of other inappropriate actions.
I actually knew someone who was a grad student in a lab that studied the effects of alcohol on performance, and every few months, the grad students had to get drunk gradually to test the calibration on the BAC monitors (not joking). They made sure they were completely sober before letting them go home, though.How do you get IRB approval for this kind of study where the researchers are the participants? It could be a good research question though. How does problematic ETOH use affect the productivity of grad students?
Here's a little visual representation of what it might look like.
As a non-drinker if I had felt pressured to drink with faculty or supervisors that would have bothered me. It never happened in my program, I think there were only a couple of occasions where alcohol was served and nobody got drunk or applied pressure. Pretty mature and responsible behavior. If they had been doing shots and getting intoxicated, then I would just leave as I don't feel comfortable around people when they begin having impaired judgement. They tend to become obnoxious. If I saw this occurring as a pattern, I would think that it was a problem and imagine it would lead to legal issues down the road as others said. Not much different from my patients who drink too much and too often,money end up with problems too.
