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Hypothetically, which one would you choose and why? I'm curious how one compares the West Coast schools with Hopkins.
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Originally posted by lady in red:
•if you are worried about prestige, I would rank them:
1) Hopkins
2) UCSF
3) Stanford
Hopkins, no question, surpasses most top 10 schools in reputation and all kinds of rankings.•••
I would say by name recognition it goes
1) hopkins
2) stanford
3) ucsf
stanford is known as the best in the west
hopkins in the east
This is purely name recognition and does not indicate reality per say.
Originally posted by Scooby Doo:
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I would say by name recognition it goes
1) hopkins
2) stanford
3) ucsf
stanford is known as the best in the west
hopkins in the east
This is purely name recognition and does not indicate reality per say.•••
I take it that by "name recognition" you really mean "name recognition by the lay-person." In the general medical community, UCSF would have the slightly better reputation. But you're absolutely right, that in general people know of Stanford more than of UCSF. This probably has more to do with the reputation of Stanford's undergraduate and graduate programs, business, and law schools than with the medical school itself.
If you look at reputation of individual clinical departments or hospitals, UCSF outpaces Stanford overall. The patient population that the hospitals serve is also quite different. Both of these factors may affect your experiences during medical school.
Originally posted by doepug:
•True, you'll see more sunny days in SF than Baltimore, but there's more to a medical education than weather. •••
Hmm - sun in San Francisco? I guess you've never been here.
Originally posted by YBee:
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Hmm - sun in San Francisco? I guess you've never been here. •••
At least we don't have to deal with that white stuff that falls from the sky... what's it called? Oh yeah, snow...
Originally posted by yodi
sorry if this info is already there somewhere in
SDN, but has anyone got accepted into UCSF
while getting rejected pre-interview at Hopkins
and/or Stanford?
That's pretty much my case, except I'm waiting for the UCSF acceptance. I dunno, though, seeing that people who are likely to get into Stanford/JHU are likely to get into UCSF as well...and vice versa...can anyone prove me wrong?
Originally posted by LizardKing
I just want to add that Hopkins isn't really grade-based. I'm sure most of you know, it's Honors/High Pass/Pass/Fail up here. In any case, even straight Pass/Fail schools still rank you for AOA Honor Society purposes. So don't be fooled, hehe.
Originally posted by paean
Um, not true at UCSF. And not true at the other pass/fail school I almost went to (Case Western). Ranking is based on the clerkship years where we are H/P/F. As long as you pass the first two years, they don't go into the equasion. Also, anyone can see that having H/HP/P/F is the same type of division as ABCF, even down to the majority of the class getting Bs. I was really impressed by the students at Hopkins, and while I enjoy going to a strictly P/F pre-clinical school, it wasn't part of my decision of where to go. But I think you're being misleading by saying that Hopkins isn't grade based.
Originally posted by BlueJayBill
Yeah, after talking to a lot of ugrads at Hopkins who go to the medical school, the noncompetitive mantra is just a defense mechanism that students use to reassure themselves. Talking to people privately, there is a heavy amount of competition (often self-imposed), but it doesn't get nasty or affect people's attitudes toward others. Most ugrads who go to the med school actually feel like the med school is more competitive.
After talking to students & faculty, I dont think that "competitiveness" is the issue, as much as there is little outlet for the intensity (or woundness) imposed on the medical students. Whether Baltimore sucks or the relative crappy student facilities (who loved PCTB & Reed-are ya kiddin me??), students dont have that many outlets to explore the other aspects of LIFE.
Oh yeah don't listen to the Philly, NY, DC excuses for Baltimore. BS, plain and simple In medical school, do you think you'll honestly have the time to go to these places anytime you want to enjoy basic things? They pulled that line during ugrad. It was really tough in ugrad to pull it off, and i can imagine the difficulty during 3rd or 4th year.
Don't get me wrong, I love Hopkins and don't regret my choice at all. In fact, I wouldn't mind sticking around for another 4 years. Just call a spade for a spade.
2 cents,
Bill
Originally posted by gramcracker
At an interview with a Yale faculty member, I asked her about safety in New Haven, and she said, Well, it's not the best neighborhood, you have to be smart,
Originally posted by LizardKing
Schools may say they don't rank, but they do. Like I said earlier, it's purely for AOA purposes. It's never posted or anything like that. The 2 years of preclinical grades and rankings are needed to select junior AOA members.
Originally posted by Thewonderer
Agree with above statement. It is very very rare to have no AOA. I have heard that Yale and Harvard don't give out AOA. But all the other schools that are pass/fail, most likely keep your exam grades so they can give out junior AOA. If your school has AOA, your schools RANKS all of you...... Just be aware.