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Oh you mean that type of curve buster, I thought you meant nevermind can't help you here.
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Here comes the butt hurt. "But mom said everyone is equal."Oftentimes, the best people in the class are just naturally better than you because they are more intelligent.
You could study more 10x more but at the end of the day, you are going to do worse. This is especially true in non-memorization-style tests.
It's kind of like comparing yourself to Usain Bolt. You can have the most optimal diet, workout strategy, techniques, and whatever but you are almost certainly not going to beat him in a 100/200m race.
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Here comes the butt hurt. "But mom said everyone is equal."
I definitely agree with this. Some people are born taller some are born shorter. Some's brains work better than other's.
Sometimes, no study method or amount of effort will close the gap. Do the best you can and stop comparing yourself to the curve-setters.
I know what you're trying to say, but it isn't helpful. Yes, the OP probably isn't exceptionally gifted, just as the majority of SDN isn't, but it's good to emphasize that doing well in his classes could well be within reach.Oftentimes, the best people in the class are just naturally better than you because they are more intelligent.
You could study more 10x more but at the end of the day, you are going to do worse. This is especially true in non-memorization-style tests.
It's kind of like comparing yourself to Usain Bolt. You can have the most optimal diet, workout strategy, techniques, and whatever but you are almost certainly not going to beat him in a 100/200m race.
Let me put it another way. If we make an analogy between college and professional basketball, then the rote-reviewing students are all shooting the ball rote-reviewing students are all shooting the ball underhand granny style, while the non-grind straight-A students are those who’ve figured out how to shoot a jump shot. It doesn’t matter if the rote reviewers practice those granny shots twice as many hours as the straight-A students; when it’s game time, the jump shooters are going to score a lot more points. Better technique trumps more effort
Awesome advice. I regularly read his blog and he really made me understand the philosphy of deep practice!You must read this book (attached).
Here's an excerpt
One of the best books I've ever read. I hope it changes your life. peace.
You must read this book (attached).
Here's an excerpt
One of the best books I've ever read. I hope it changes your life. peace.
I love his work. Great stuff. Here's an awesome video I watched a few years ago.Awesome advice. I regularly read his blog and he really made me understand the philosphy of deep practice!
This is an amazing study tip. After lecture and taking notes like this or transforming the basic notes you took into question form, just keep trying to answer the questions with an explanation. Then before a test, ask yourself all of the questions from your notes and answer them properly with an explanation.If you find it hard to pay attention another way that can help is to take notes a little differently. Instead of writing what you hear, try composing a test. As the professor says something that would make a good test question, write it down along with the correct answer. It will keep your mind engaged and as you get more practice and a familiarity with the professor will find that you're beginning to predict actual test questions
Oftentimes, the best people in the class are just naturally better than you because they are more intelligent.
You could study more 10x more but at the end of the day, you are going to do worse. This is especially true in non-memorization-style tests.
It's kind of like comparing yourself to Usain Bolt. You can have the most optimal diet, workout strategy, techniques, and whatever but you are almost certainly not going to beat him in a 100/200m race.
Not sure what to say to be honest, as cliche as it is, you tried your best and your best wasn't good enough. Some people just have an easier time connecting little increments of info and small details to big ideas, and that essentially carries them through 95 percent of a class -- the rest is just memorizing a few things the professor wants. I suppose when the professor asks the critical thinking questions, they go back to the big ideas, and go from there. It's pretty clear your a dedicated student (studying 6 days straight), and your definitely above average in intelligence. All I can say is continue improving your study techniques, what if you're shooting underhand granny style and you only make 85 percent of your shots, while your peers have already a technique down for shooting a basketball and they can easily muster 99 percent accuracy with their three's. Instead of studying 6 days straight, try improving your learning and study technique -- you would probably only need a weekend of complete focus to get the stuff down to end up killing the final.In anticipation of the final, I studied for 6 days straight this time because there was no way In hell I was going to lose my A. In the end no amount of studying could have prepared me for that test. I memorized every single slide and read every page in the book. I ended up using 0 percent of that info because it was so critically written. I was only able to muster an 81 and ended up with a B+ as my final grade. The two people I spoke to that got As said they only reviewed the night before and basically relied on their background bio knowledge to reason out the answers to the questions ... The one who worked harder ended up getting punished for his tenacity..
Not sure what to say to be honest, as cliche as it is, you tried your best and your best wasn't good enough. Some people just have an easier time connecting little increments of info and small details to big ideas, and that essentially carries them through 95 percent of a class -- the rest is just memorizing a few things the professor wants. I suppose when the professor asks the critical thinking questions, they go back to the big ideas, and go from there. It's pretty clear your a dedicated student (studying 6 days straight), and your definitely above average in intelligence. All I can say is continue improving your study techniques, what if you're shooting underhand granny style and you only make 85 percent of your shots, while your peers have already a technique down for shooting a basketball and they can easily muster 99 percent accuracy with their three's. Instead of studying 6 days straight, try improving your learning and study technique -- you would probably only need a weekend of complete focus to get the stuff down to end up killing the final.
First off: Don't call it a curve destroyer. I graduated from a school that is notorious for the gunner pre-med culture. At my school, if there are the following items on an unguaraded desk at a library:
a) latest iphone
b) study guide
Kids steal b. That's how it goes.
Consider working with your classmates. Now I'm not saying "group studying all the way." But review slides with collagues (who are doing well). Try to see the critical thinking they're applying to these topics. You'd be surprised what you can learn from your colleagues. Consider doing assignments with them, old exams, practice problems, reviewing notes with 'em!
I've thought about this a lot in my academic lifetime. I believe that a strong contributor to the "uber intelligence" of these people is they have had a very high quality of education in their k-12 public education. I believe this is also why many kids from California are such ridiculous medical school applicants. Areas with large populations tend to put a lot more of their city budget into public education than say.... the piss poor k-12 education that we receive here in the rural Midwest.
In fact, even kids in my classes who were just absolutely ridiculous came from large magnet high schools in St. Louis or Kansas City, not Podunkville from Southeast Missouri.
What do you think?
Similar to what I wrote about MCAT scores and IQ, the ability to become a curve destroyer is affected by:
1) Your innate intelligence/IQ
2) Your development of the intelligence/IQ (via studying, having a high quality K-12 education, etc.)
3) Your peer group
The innate intelligence/IQ generally affects your ceiling/potential. Whether you reach that ceiling/potential depends on your development (e.g., having a good K-12 education, having time to study, motivation, etc.)
Now, like it or not, some people are just innately smarter than others (however you define intelligence). As such, some people's ceilings will still not be good enough to be a "curve destroyer" if the peer group is the top .1%.
In other words, just because you come from a top magnet school and work super hard does not guarantee that you are going to dominate upper-level math classes at MIT. In fact, for most people, even if they studied like their lives depended on it (and studied non-stop), they would still not be able to dominate upper-level math classes at MIT simply because they are not innately smart enough. Studying non-stop would help one reach his/her potential though.
As for your observation, it can also be explained by the fact that people who tend to have high innate intelligence/IQ are those that tend to be at top magnet schools anyways. The high quality of education at these schools only helps these students reach their already above average ceilings.
I agree with most of what you are saying, but at the same time, I still think that if John Smith from Podunkville received the same K-12 education (there is a lot of cognitive development done in these younger years) that Larry Bird did from a public K-12 education in California, John Smith would still be a lot better for it. I'm not saying John Smith would be just as good as Larry Bird or better (He could be though), just that John Smith would be a lot better than he originally was.
You have to understand that Podunkville gives bonus points to kids in high school for bringing in bags of candy every quarter. This is Podunkville we are talking about. Podunkville's "AP" courses consist of Biology courses with teachers who have no idea what they are talking about in which your average AP biology day consists of doing coloring books or playing chess because the teacher doesnt care, and frankly neither do you now because this is what you are used to in Podunkville.
John Smith has received an education of this level for the majority of his education since kindergarten. This is a very real scenario of many rural areas of the USA, and even some of the "bad" areas in large Inner cities, etc etc.
Unfortunately for many of these John Smiths, when they go to the public 4 year state undergrad, they are in for a rude awakening and must now compete with the Larry Birds, Micheal Jordan, Scotty Pippens, Shaqs, Steve Nashs, etc etc etc
Yep, there's no denying that going to a better school (where you get a better education) would help people achieve their potential. For all we know, the next Einstein could be in Podunkville and as such, may never reach his full society-changing potential.
Just want to add that driven students can challenge themselves in crap schools. Get some textbooks from a couple grades higher to teach yourself from, find good challenging reading material in the library, go online to find resources for SAT prep if your school has none, and so on. Definitely a harder route thoughThis is why if I have kids, I will make every effort to get them to at least a decent k-12 public education system. Not Podunkville.com.
You're absolutely correct - sometimes that group of brainiacs just keeps to themself! It was late when I was typing this response. I meant a group of friends that are doing better than you/group of students that are approachable.Good advice, but working with the "best" students is easier said than done. They don't want a slacker in their study group either.
Flash cards feel like isolated facts to me , what ways and classes do you yourself use flash cards to learn?Two words: Flash Cards.
In my opinion, flash cards worked best for me in classes with brute memorization. I used them for anatomy. Just names, pictures, and definitions. Flash cards won't necessarily help for more in-depth thinking courses (such as calculus 2 for example, flashcards are not a good way to memorize sequence and series, practice problems are!)Flash cards feel like isolated facts to me , what ways and classes do you yourself use flash cards to learn?
Haha, my only not 4.0 semester was my first (3.7). it actually reduced stress because I never had to worry about ruining my 4.0.We freshman keep it for 2 semrsters then lose it in the future
I feel clumsy, inefficient, and inept. I make a big deal out of studying. I'll probably sit for hours staring at physiology slides or a genetics textbook unable to garner much other than a few key points. Even watching YouTube videos, my attention lacks at times as I may zone out or feel the need to repeat the previous seconds of the video with the idea of telling myself I may have missed some good points.
I carry around a whole ton of books and highlighters and pens and pencils like I'm some kind of superhero geek at studying. I've got this schedule on excel that I regularly edit and plan out every stupid daily event to the minute detail like I'm the CEO of Goldman Sachs.
But then I meet guys who take several upper-level chemistry or engineering classes a semester, make a 4.0, and don't say a word about it. There's a computer engineer I play soccer with taking taking 21 credits while somehow working a job and maintains his relationships with his networks. I see guys in the back of the lecture halls who don't write down squat and make perfect scores on the exams. Another in my physiology class has been on his senior slide having gotten into Johns Hopkins, doesn't write anything and instead browses reddit but somehow manages to score a 98 on the exams while I'm stuck in the average pile -- how'd you study I'd ask him, "I just looked over the slides lol" he says sheepishly.
Meanwhile, I'm in the front row trying to copy down every word I hear in 7 different colors, like some silly 8th grade nerd. I meet guys in the library who only carry around a 20 cent notebook and a #2 pencil, but can legitimately focus on their biochem textbooks for several hours straight. They can somehow start studying the previous night before an exam and still make that A.
How do I get into this ice-cold mentality of efficiency, concentration, and dedication to the craft?
Haha, my only not 4.0 semester was my first (3.7). it actually reduced stress because I never had to worry about ruining my 4.0.
I've always thought a 3.8-3.9 looked more impressive coupled with a high MCAT than a 4.0 and high MCAT. Idk why, I guess I subconsciously assume the kid had a life/worked hard instead of no-lifed/is a genius.You strategized awfully well. It's hard to tell whether its worth losing or whether keeping it has a huge marginal benefit over a 3.8-3.9
I've always thought a 3.8-3.9 looked more impressive coupled with a high MCAT than a 4.0 and high MCAT. Idk why, I guess I subconsciously assume the kid had a life/worked hard instead of no-lifed/is a genius.