hey everybody!does anybody know what the average salary of a general psychiatrist is (for a major u.s city such as chicago). is there a big increase if u do a fellowship and how hard is it to find a job after ur residency??? thanks
plenty. expect to start $150K-200Kpiwek said:hey everybody!does anybody know what the average salary of a general psychiatrist is (for a major u.s city such as chicago).
only if you do childpiwek said:is there a big increase if u do a fellowship
not a problem, esp if you're flexible.piwek said:and how hard is it to find a job after ur residency??? thanks
My resident mailbox is already flooded with offers for psychiatry work, and I'm just a PGY-III. It's a good feeling.OldPsychDoc said:dozens of positions go begging every year
There is about a 10% increase for inpt work.tatabox80 said:Does the average salary differ on whether you do primarily outpt or inpt?
HooahDOc said:Where does C-L fellowship training fall on the increase salary list? If I did any fellowship training, that would be it.
Dartos Vader said:I just did a psych rotation in MI, the head of the psych program (it's all inpatient pscyh by the way) told me that of the 20 something docs working under him, not one of them makes less than 200,000 and some make well over 300,000. And they are not exactly busting their humps either, they are all huge golf addicts.
Solideliquid said:SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! What are ya trying to do here?! Keep that stuff to yourself!
nortomaso said:Anyone have a realistic range for academic salaries?
Doc Samson said:Starting salaries range from $80 - $140k, depending on the institutional arrogance of the place in question.
Anasazi23 said:it's reasonable to look at $300k+ for high-end private practice.
Doc Samson said:Starting salaries range from $80 - $140k, depending on the institutional arrogance of the place in question.
Doc Samson said:Starting salaries range from $80 - $140k, depending on the institutional arrogance of the place in question.
nortomaso said:So the more arrogant the institution, the less they pay?
nortomaso said:So the more arrogant the institution, the less they pay?
Doc Samson said:That's my experience
OldPsychDoc said:...because simply being associated with the glories of Grandiosely Imperious Medical College is CLEARLY more valuable than the extra $100-200 K you could be earning in the <air of disgust> private sector.
Doc Samson said:... or the opportunity to mentor and shape the next generation of bright young things in your field is actually kind of cool, and to some maybe worth the financial sacrifice.
OldPsychDoc said:There's more than one dream job out there!
chameleonknight said:I'd like to ask about a couple of very specific states: New Mexico and Louisiana. Do you guys know what effect, if any, that those prescribing psychologists have had on the job market?
chameleonknight said:I'd like to ask about a couple of very specific states: New Mexico and Louisiana. Do you guys know what effect, if any, that those prescribing psychologists have had on the job market? Or a more general question: psych MDs seem to do well in big cities, but what about smaller cities (~500,000 pop.) and small towns (35,000-80,000 pop.)?
chameleonknight said:I've noticed that I'm still in school and it's hard to get a feel for the job market...
And I'm not trying to raise hell; I feel that it's a legitimate concern. If I find anything out, I'll be sure to come back and share.
chameleonknight said:psych MDs seem to do well in big cities, but what about smaller cities (~500,000 pop.) and small towns (35,000-80,000 pop.)?
Anasazi23 said:Some would argue the opposite. The smaller the town area, the more money psychiatrists can make. A good example is psychiatry in NYC, where, despite the physician saturation, psychiatrists make decent money. However, this is not nearly as much as if they moved to a rural area, where cost of living is cut by about 1/2, and salary increases twofold.
PublicHealth said:See you Mississippi, sazi!
Anasazi23 said:Believe me, I'm thinking about it.....
Live on a plantation, have plenty of room for the cars, motorcycles, the batting cage, the pool......sounds nice doesn't it?
PublicHealth said:I agree. Personally, I think that psychiatrists and psychologists should work collaboratively whenever possible, including psychopharmacology, as each discipline complements the other.
The fact that you find this issue to be legitimate concern is consistent with how most of psychiatry feels (exceptions include most folks on this board). You should have heard some of the psychiatrists lobbying against psychologist RxP in recent legislative sessions! At the same time, it's really not an issue to get too concerned about, as psychiatric NPs have not put psychiatrists out of business, and only a minority of psychologists will likely pursue RxP. Many, in fact, are against this added scope of practice.
I am currently in my third year of medical school, and I support psychologist RxP, as psychiatry is simply not putting out the numbers to meet the need for psychopharmacological treatment. Plus, I value the biopsychosocial approach to psychiatric care that, in my opinion, is sorely missing in modern, pharma-dominated psychiatry.
Feel free to post in the clinical psychology forum. There's a thread there on psychopharmacology/advanced practice psychology. Folks there would be happy to hear your thoughts about this issue. Though I do not think we're off-topic here.
Poety said:here psychs to the meds, ologists do the therapy. PharmaCISTS are the ones we go to for med ideas since they know the drugs inside and out.
we go to them all the time when we're stumped on a patient for b/p meds and need to know what to use instead of x,y,z which they're already on, or cost issues (which is HUGE HERE) etc etc - I think the pharmacists are great - its a pharmacy teaching place here so they're a great resource.Pharmacists for medication ideas?
That's sort of weird to me....
Nothing can replace your psychiatric clinical experience, and while pharmacists are wonderful resources for techincal questions, the clinical aspect is the domain in which you'll remain the expert. Trust yourself and your experience.
I hvaen't worked iwth the ologists yet, but I've been hanging with some community service psychiatrists (attendings) and they do all the therapy themselves, but htye more than anything do med management.