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You guys do know who Sheridan is, right? Hello? McFly?
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I'm guessing the AMC that accounts for around 25% of the ads on gaswork?
Some people would call them Satan, others may call them mentors.
A pimp by any other name still wears a big felt hat with a feather and smells like brut.
A testament to how bad Sheridan is the large number of places they have been kicked out or tried to take over and failed.
McAllen, TX,
JPS Fort Worth, TX,
Logansport, IN
And dozens more.
I made the mistake of going to an interview with the Sheridan Scum, I never made the mistake of signing up but they were the among most dishonest and deceitful characters, I have had ever encountered.
I would only rank Anesthetix Management (AKA. Anthem Associates) or AmSol as more malignant AMC companies.
I would only rank Anesthetix Management (AKA. Anthem Associates) or AmSol as more malignant AMC companies.
Now this is interesting.
Everyone says how evil these AMC's are....and I don't disagree, because they are very expensive due to their inherent inefficiencies of the corporature structure, etc.
Yet, in the same breath, the same folks who despise these AMC's will go and work Locums....which the AMC's use extensively....Another layer of management which cause undue expense.
Now this is interesting.
Everyone says how evil these AMC's are....and I don't disagree, because they are very expensive due to their inherent inefficiencies of the corporature structure, etc.
Yet, in the same breath, the same folks who despise these AMC's will go and work Locums....which the AMC's use extensively....Another layer of management which cause undue expense.
You are absolutely right, Mil.
But everyone these days wants to be treated like a partner on day one. This is just another sad turn that the field is has taken.
Im not advocating partnership on day one. I am advocating getting paid equally for equal work.. period. why should a new anesthesiologist get paid any less for an epidural he or she placed vs a partner. its stil a billable service
Treated like a partner from day one? I don't know if that's the expectation. The expectation is to get treated fairly and have a future no matter where you go. Is that unreasonable? I don't know. But, doesn't seem so to me.
Here's a deal a guy who's finishing this year got (for a general-type, mixed-bag practice he's going to). They have an "open book" policy, in that any member of the group can look at the accounts anytime they want. It's a pooled-type practice where all the accounts go into a big pot, and then it's divvied-up at the end of a billing cycle. Everyone gets an equal share of pay, no matter what grade you are within the group. You get paid a fraction based on the amount you work. They look at billed time, not billed cases, and your percentage is based on how much you're actually there providing care. There's no special treatment if you are doing complex ASA 4 cases where you're sweating the whole time, or you're pushing propofol in the endo suite.
The upside to this is that everyone is treated fairly and like an equal from day one. The downside is that it's feast or famine. You have a good quarter and work hard, you make a lot of money. If you don't work, you don't get paid. If there aren't enough cases or cash coming in, everyone suffers. At least they're equitable.
To me (at least on the face of it), that seems like the fairest type of system. He actually told me to come interview with them in the fall, but I don't know if the geography suits me. Still, we'll see. By then, he'll have had a few months working with them and will know whether or not that's the type of practice he wants to be in.
So, partner from day one? I dunno. But, he's being treated fairly up front and that's a pretty cool, equitable way to run things if you ask me. I believe MilMD runs his practice this way, and to that I say: .
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Treated like a partner from day one? I don't know if that's the expectation. The expectation is to get treated fairly and have a future no matter where you go. Is that unreasonable? I don't know. But, doesn't seem so to me.
Here's a deal a guy who's finishing this year got (for a general-type, mixed-bag practice he's going to). They have an "open book" policy, in that any member of the group can look at the accounts anytime they want. It's a pooled-type practice where all the accounts go into a big pot, and then it's divvied-up at the end of a billing cycle. Everyone gets an equal share of pay, no matter what grade you are within the group. You get paid a fraction based on the amount you work. They look at billed time, not billed cases, and your percentage is based on how much you're actually there providing care. There's no special treatment if you are doing complex ASA 4 cases where you're sweating the whole time, or you're pushing propofol in the endo suite.
The upside to this is that everyone is treated fairly and like an equal from day one. The downside is that it's feast or famine. You have a good quarter and work hard, you make a lot of money. If you don't work, you don't get paid. If there aren't enough cases or cash coming in, everyone suffers. At least they're equitable.
To me (at least on the face of it), that seems like the fairest type of system. He actually told me to come interview with them in the fall, but I don't know if the geography suits me. Still, we'll see. By then, he'll have had a few months working with them and will know whether or not that's the type of practice he wants to be in.
So, partner from day one? I dunno. But, he's being treated fairly up front and that's a pretty cool, equitable way to run things if you ask me. I believe MilMD runs his practice this way, and to that I say: .
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That's one type and a very good one at that.
You need to decide as you interview what it is you want. Your first statement "treated fairly" is up to you. You can negotiate your deal in order to feel that you are getting a fair shake. But to expect everything that partners get right out of residency is arrogant. Pay is one thing, a spot on the board with full voting privileges and all other perks of partnership is a totally different beast. Its your choice, take the job or leave it. There are many of you out there. Trust me, we interviewed people for 3 years till we got this group where we wanted it. I even interviewed someone from this site and b/c of his posts here I had a very good idea whether we were going to offer him anything. He was bright and well trained. We did not make an offer.
Does Mil give his newly hired folks all the privileges of the people that have been there from day one? I doubt it. There is a trial period, I'm sure. They may be paid the same but if pay is the only thing you are considering then you are missing the boat.
Thanks for your valid input.
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I even interviewed someone from this site and b/c of his posts here I had a very good idea whether we were going to offer him anything. He was bright and well trained. We did not make an offer.
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I would delete this if i were you. I am not certain that is legal. What, you didnt like his political views. You should hire someone based on if you feel he can do the job. if he was bright and well trained.. hire the guy. Not because he argued with militarymd.
I would delete this if i were you. I am not certain that is legal. What, you didnt like his political views. You should hire someone based on if you feel he can do the job. if he was bright and well trained.. hire the guy. Not because he argued with militarymd.
You are absolutely right, Mil.
But everyone these days wants to be treated like a partner on day one. This is just another sad turn that the field is has taken.
Man, with this attitude you will be happy at least initially, but things might change if you find yourself in a situation where people are trying to take advantage of you and if you discover that the equality they promissed is nothing but an illusion.Not me. I'm ready for a good old fashioned beaten.'
I just want to end up at a place where I enjoy my anesthesia colleagues, do a variety of cases, and get to go home and see my wife n' kid at night.
And get to go somewhere warm n' fun for vacation.
Man, with this attitude you will be happy at least initially, but things might change if you find yourself in a situation where people are trying to take advantage of you and if you discover that the equality they promissed is nothing but an illusion.
Hope it doesn't happen to you.
Bump.
I'm considering working for Sheridan because I'm geographically limited to an area where they are the only decent looking group. Any specific things to watch out for?
Mainly Florida.so is sheridan a large anesthesia group that tries to get contracts in many hospitals across the US?
Just curious....never heard of them.
so is sheridan a large anesthesia group that tries to get contracts in many hospitals across the US?
Just curious....never heard of them.
Bump.
I'm considering working for Sheridan because I'm geographically limited to an area where they are the only decent looking group. Any specific things to watch out for?
Bump.
I'm considering working for Sheridan because I'm geographically limited to an area where they are the only decent looking group. Any specific things to watch out for?
Why does everybody hate Sheridan other than the fact that they take away contracts from smaller groups.
I interviewed with Sheridan for their job here in Vegas..........
Keep in mind that the good old USA has this thing called the First Amendment. You can say what you want so long as it is supported by something remotely resembling a fact.
They're still at JPS.
if you aren't happy with them, ie whether or not they choose to defend you/influence your decision to settle/fight a case, you have little to no recourse, as they are barely regulated by the state or federal govt
A testament to how bad Sheridan is the large number of places they have been kicked out or tried to take over and failed.
McAllen, TX,
JPS Fort Worth, TX,
Logansport, IN
And dozens more.
I made the mistake of going to an interview with the Sheridan Scum, I never made the mistake of signing up but they were the among most dishonest and deceitful characters, I have had ever encountered.
I would only rank Anesthetix Management (AKA. Anthem Associates) or AmSol as more malignant AMC companies.
Some information that I'm sure the anti-Sheridan crowd on this list will attack. Sheridan isn't a partnership model. You don't get the partnership meetings to decide what health insurance you are going to elect or how much Betty Sue in billing is going to make nor do you have the liability as an owner. For Florida, you are employed by a group. You have a standard contract that allows either party to get in and out easily. YOu have no tail insurance cost when you leave. You are promised, and mostly delivered, a job that has a reasonable call schedule that is roughly the same as everyone else in your group. Your compensation is published, and the same as everyone else in your group. You can volunteer for extra shifts at area hospitals for a published rate that is similar to what locums get. You don't have to do extra shifts as they have a big enough group that they can usually find someone interested in picking up that shift.
Sheridan does tend to manage the groups, which usually translates into the lazy or incompetent being asked to leave. A couple of those are on an anti-Sheridan mission, and I suspect perhaps posting on this listserve.
Yes, I am with Sheridan and yes am satisfied. NO, I'm not a recruiter for them. Sheridan isn't perfect, as no group is perfect. I would happy to answer your questions with as much as I know about the group.
post the document pleaseOk ... I was looking into what looked like a great job opportunity on gasworks in which I recognized the name anesthetix. I remember reading that name on SDN and while I was returning a call to the recruiter, I did a quick google search:
Anesthetix court document
Hung up the phone before they could pick up. Can't believe what that poor guy went through. Don't know the details of course, but in addition to trying to rip him off, seems like they really worked hard to tarnish his name when he tried to get them to pay him. I can see why alot of folks just walk away quietly in these situations.
SDN may have potentially saved me from a nightmare situation.
post the document please