if you had a choice between the two, where would you rather go and why? does one school open more "doors" than the other in your opinion?
if you had a choice between the two, where would you rather go and why? does one school open more "doors" than the other in your opinion?
UCLA as I dont think id fit in with the elitists at hopkins, harvard etc lol. Seriously though it doesnt matter. Id take ucla just because its my number 1 and its close to home and where i want to stay. I had no desire to attend jhu, harvard, or any ivy really, and didnt apply to them.
+1
Not that they're necessarily bad people, I just really don't like gunner-ism or elitism.
true. I was j/k when i said that remark. Thats just my general perception of the ivies. I know these people exist everywhere i just get the feeling that they would exist more at these places. Im sure someone will say im wrong so fine im wrong. Regardless id take UCLA over any school in the country hands down barring ucsf. Location is huge to me and one thing i think everyone will agree on. jhu is in a piece of **** area lol. Ill take beautiful ucla and southern cali over that any day. The perceived "prestige" or w/e difference between the 2 schools is none for me. honestly id take most UCs/USC over jhuIt's a pretty sweeping generalization to say that Harvard/Hopkins will be full of gunners and elitists. I'm sure said people exist at every school. I wouldn't really think too much about it when deciding what school to attend - just pick the right people to hang out with when you're there. =P
Haha, it looks like no one would go to Hopkins. Where's the poll?
not if ucla gives me good news 1st. Even then with my current acceptances id pass on jhu lolThats here. If these ppl got a JHU acceptance they'd be walking to Baltimore. .
Thats here. If these ppl got a JHU acceptance they'd be walking to Baltimore. .
I'd walk to Baltimore.
It's easier for me to walk to LA than to Baltimore.
I'd walk to Baltimore from LA. Or Seattle. Or Vancouver.
Then I could write a book about my journey and make mad $$$ to fund my Hopkins med school.
UCLA FOR SURE.
Reputation: Hopkins >>> UCLA.
Location: UCLA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopkins
Cost: UCLA >>>>>>>>>> Hopkins (in-state for me)
Grading: UCLA (P/F all 4 years, no internal ranking) >>>>>>> Hopkins
UCLA FOR SURE.
Reputation: Hopkins >>> UCLA.
Location: UCLA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopkins
Cost: UCLA >>>>>>>>>> Hopkins (in-state for me)
Grading: UCLA (P/F all 4 years, no internal ranking) >>>>>>> Hopkins
I agree with 2 and 3 but completely disagree with 4 and 1. I know right now to you premeds getting P/F all 4 years sounds awesome and no headache but it might hurt you in the wrong run. Although I would still probably go to UCLA, I would think long and hard over the potential impact of those P/F years on residency selections. For the first 2 years, P/F isn't that big of a deal but during your clinical years it really matters to residency directors how you graded out along the "pass" range. Also, having everything P/F detracts from the drive to learn. People just aim to "pass" which could potentially impact their Step 1 scores and their ability to really understand the physiology behind disease and subsequent pathophysiology explanation when the attendings pimp you in the wards. So, yeah in the short term it's nice to not worry about grades but would you risk looking like a fool in front of your attending one day?
Also, you should never confuse undergrad reputation vs med school reputation. This one is a little hard to explain, but suffice to say that just because you go to Yale or Harvard doesn't necessarily mean residency directors will fall over themselves to take you. Based on their past history with residents from those schools will determine how favorably they look at your application.
This thread = thinly veiled attempt at West Coast vs. East Coast...
I'm planning on doing an IM residency at UCLA if I go to UCLA med school, so it shouldn't hurt me too much right? Probably going to do some fellowship afterwards.
I don't know how you can think JHU doesn't have a better reputation than UCLA... I'm a huge UCLA fanboy, but JHU seems to me as if it's in a league of it's own (or maybe with Harvard) in terms of med school reputation... Someone who was involved with the residency selection at his institution posted this list, breaking down the med schools' reputation in groups:
"Internal Medicine rankings would differ; Top 20 by groupings:
Hopkins
Harvard
UCSF
Duke
Penn
Wash U.
Michigan
Washington
UCLA
Baylor College
Yale
Stanford
UTSW
Columbia
Cornell Weil
Vanderbilt
Chicago Pritzker
Northwestern
Pitt
Emory"
I've actually heard that JHU kids are really nice... not elitist at all. Maybe the professors but not the students (at least not all of them).
UCLA I would choose because of everything brygguy1 mentioned except for home and Pac-1 sports. SEC football baby!! 4 straight national championships.
UCLA FOR SURE.
Reputation: Hopkins >>> UCLA.
Location: UCLA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopkins
Cost: UCLA >>>>>>>>>> Hopkins (in-state for me)
Grading: UCLA (P/F all 4 years, no internal ranking) >>>>>>> Hopkins
I would choose UCLA without hesitation. Unless you want to be an East Coast academic, which I don't, life would be much more pleasant at UCLA. If you want to be a doc in private practice, which I do, UCLA will give you everything you want without the misery of Baltimore.
UCLA FOR SURE.
Reputation: Hopkins >>> UCLA.
Location: UCLA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hopkins
Cost: UCLA >>>>>>>>>> Hopkins (in-state for me)
Grading: UCLA (P/F all 4 years, no internal ranking) >>>>>>> Hopkins
I'm planning on doing an IM residency at UCLA if I go to UCLA med school, so it shouldn't hurt me too much right? Probably going to do some fellowship afterwards.
I don't know how you can think JHU doesn't have a better reputation than UCLA... I'm a huge UCLA fanboy, but JHU seems to me as if it's in a league of it's own (or maybe with Harvard) in terms of med school reputation... Someone who was involved with the residency selection at his institution posted this list, breaking down the med schools' reputation in groups:
"Internal Medicine rankings would differ; Top 20 by groupings:
Hopkins
Harvard
UCSF
Duke
Penn
Wash U.
Michigan
Washington
UCLA
Baylor College
Yale
Stanford
UTSW
Columbia
Cornell Weil
Vanderbilt
Chicago Pritzker
Northwestern
Pitt
Emory"
whoa, so at his school, yale stanford and columbia were in the same group as UTSW and below mich, washington, baylor and ucla? if i chose a school just based on reputation (which i wont) i woulda for sure picked columbia, yale or stanford over those four, anyone else have any thoughts? not that it matters haha
I know a few people who go to JHU and none of them are even close to being gunners or elitists. I'd still pick UCLA though for the pass/fail system they have and the location/weather. I didn't know that they didn't have internal rankings either, which makes it even cooler to go there. The only school I thought that did that was Yale (i.e. p/f AND no internal ranking).
mich has no internal ranking
But, they have clinical grades (I think).
i dont know of any school that doesnt. ucla's P/F extends thru all 4 years?
Yeah but like I mentioned earlier in the thread, they still have things called "Letters of Distinction" which go to top students in rotations. I'm totally speculating here, but I'd imagine if you're a residency director and you see a bunch of applicants from UCLA with all passes, the letters of distinction serve as a way to separate the applicants
If you're so pro-Cali, why exactly did you choose Princeton over say UCLA, Berkeley or Stanford for undergrad? Haha, sorry, I'm just curious.
Yeah but like I mentioned earlier in the thread, they still have things called "Letters of Distinction" which go to top students in rotations and can be mentioned in your dean's letter. I'm totally speculating here, but I'd imagine if you're a residency director and you see a bunch of applicants from UCLA with all passes, the letters of distinction serve as a way to separate the applicants
I know a few people who go to JHU and none of them are even close to being gunners or elitists. I'd still pick UCLA though for the pass/fail system they have and the location/weather. I didn't know that they didn't have internal rankings either, which makes it even cooler to go there. The only school I thought that did that was Yale (i.e. p/f AND no internal ranking).
Stanford was my #1! Sadly, I got turned down. UCLA and Berkeley were too expensive haha (Princeton's Fin Aid is pretty unbeatable).