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Needing help getting information about Johns Hopkins medical school and their summer intern ship program for pre- med students. I am going this fall for pre-med... I'm going to study for pediatric anesthestiology and pain management and am trying to get more I formation....
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Since you're an entering college freshman, I'd recommend leaving out your ambitious and specific aspirations for "pediatric anesthestiology [sic] and pain management" when introducing yourselves to strangers.
 
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Since you're an entering college freshman, I'd recommend leaving out your ambitious and specific aspirations for "pediatric anesthestiology [sic] and pain management" when introducing yourselves to strangers.
Well that's what I will be doing! I know for sure! But thanks for your opinion!
 
Someone working at Johns Hopkins would be able to help you far more than we would be able to.

I doubt the person is going to John Hopkins :rolleyes:
 
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Well that's what I will be doing! I know for sure! But thanks for your opinion!
OP, hopefully you make into medical school one day. Anyways, once you are in your last 2 years of medical school you will probably end up changing your mind about what specialty you go into. The ones that usually end up going into what they said they wanted to do is because they may come from a similar background from that specialty.

OP means original poster btw.
 
OP, hopefully you make into medical school one day. Anyways, once you are in your last 2 years of medical school you will probably end up changing your mind about what specialty you go into. The ones that usually end up going into what they said they wanted to do is because they may come from a similar background from that specialty.

OP means original poster btw.
Thank you for being nice about it! And thank you for the info I'm very goal oriented and anesthestiology fascinates me! And I am choosing pediatrics because I love children and want to make a difference! I know many people change their minds! And once again thank you for being so nice I apericiate it!
 
Well that's what I will be doing! I know for sure! But thanks for your opinion!


You knew exactly that you are going to pediatric anesthesiologist and then do a pain fellowship as a freshman in college? Have you shadowed a physician who specialized in that area? Do you know the pros and cons of that specialty? In fact, do you know that anesthesiologists are losing jobs left and right due to CRNA? You're welcome to reply to me 14 years from now when you finish your training. I'd love to hear it.
 
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Thank you for being nice about it! And thank you for the info I'm very goal oriented and anesthestiology fascinates me! And I am choosing pediatrics because I love children and want to make a difference! I know many people change their minds! And once again thank you for being so nice I apericiate it!
If you ever change your mind, don't worry about it. I chose to pursue medicine because I wanted to be a pediatric oncologist, but as the years went by (even though I'm not in medical school yet) I felt like that might not be for me.
 


You knew exactly that you are going to pediatric anesthesiologist and then do a pain fellowship as a freshman in college? Have you shadowed a physician who specialized in that area? Do you know the pros and cons of that specialty? In fact, do you know that anesthesiologists are losing jobs left and right due to CRNA? You're welcome to reply to me 13 years from now when you finish your training. I'd love to hear it.
I will let you know!! And does it really matter if I chose this now? No it doesn't! So please do not be rude on my post! Thank you!
 
If you ever change your mind, don't worry about it. I chose to pursue medicine because I wanted to be a pediatric oncologist, but as the years went by (even though I'm not in medical school yet) I felt like that might not be for me.
Thank you so much!!
 
My fellow classmates who were going to be pediatric neurologists/psychiatrists/dermatologists have for the most part abandoned the pre-med ship. Why? Because you will be studying bio, chemistry, tons of other sciences, and it's hard to enjoy many of this classes and do well in them if the only thing that keeps you going is that narrow focus on one specialty.

Anyway, that reminds me that I'll be meeting my overly ambitious chemistry freshmen in a few weeks :bag:
 
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My fellow classmates who were going to be pediatric neurologists/psychiatrists/dermatologists have for the most part abandoned the pre-med ship. Why? Because you will be studying bio, chemistry, tons of other sciences, and it's hard to enjoy many of this classes and do well in them if the only thing that keeps you going is that narrow focus on one specialty.

Anyway, that reminds me that I'll be meeting my overly ambitious chemistry freshmen in a few weeks :bag:
Thank you for being nice about it! And lol I actually love science so that won't be a problem for me!
 
@WedgeDawg Dawg is right, with pain + ped fellowships + 4 yrs college + 4 yrs med school + 4 yrs of gas = 14 years (fastest route unless cut down years in college). OP obviously do not know any of this.
I will let you know!! And does it really matter if I chose this now? No it doesn't! So please do not be rude on my post! Thank you!
Nothing on my reply was rude. Your response indicated of how mature you are. I simply asked if you know anything about the interested field since you said you are sure that it is you want to do, but from the look of it, you need to do some research.
 
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@WedgeDawg Dawg is right, with pain + ped fellowships + 4 yrs college + 4 yrs med school + 4 yrs of gas = 14 years (fastest route unless cut down years in college). OP obviously do not know any of this.

Nothing on my reply was rude. Your response indicated of how mature you are. I simply asked if you know anything about the interested field since you said you are sure that it is you want to do, but from the look of it, you need to do some research.

Wouldn't it actually technically be 16 years, as both fellowships are a year (two if you want to do academics for peds at least)?
 
I've heard that place is a dump.
 
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I remember being 18 and thinking I had life figured out. Thank god nothing I thought I wanted came to fruition. I think it's good to have a goal, I doubt there isn't a single person here who didn't have their mind on a certain specialty as a freshman. But as someone much older than you, let me tell you that what you want now in life will more than likely change. So keep an open mind, especially when it comes to medicine. There is no guarantee you will match in to anesthesiology, let alone get into med school. It's good to be driven, but practice some humility, especially when talking to other pre-meds. You don't want to be quoted in the "dumb things pre-meds say" thread.
 
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Needing help getting information about Johns Hopkins medical school and their summer intern ship program for pre- med students. I am going this fall for pre-med... I'm going to study for pediatric anesthestiology and pain management and am trying to get more I formation....
Thank you
By the time you start matching, gas will be about as desirable as community family med. Become a CRNA if you're sure you want to do anesthesiology.

On a side note, if you are in fact going to JHU as a pre-med....good luck, you'll need it.
 
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Is it just me, or do all pre-meds who think they already know what field they want to go into ALWAYS add "pediatric" in front of the field they're interested in? Pediatric anesthesiology, pediatric oncology, etc. I met a LOT of future pediatric neurosurgeons when I was in undergrad.
 
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Is it just me, or do all pre-meds who think they already know what field they want to go into ALWAYS add "pediatric" in front of the field they're interested in? Pediatric anesthesiology, pediatric oncology, etc. I met a LOT of future pediatric neurosurgeons when I was in undergrad.
Well n=1 here but I have a specialty goal in mind and I can't stand kids :D
 
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Your going to college! Why would you waste the most epic year of your life snobbing it out with Hopkins folks?
 
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In my local AMSA group, I was introduced to a gentleman who was over 40, previously a carpenter, was going to major in French while doing pre-med, and openly told us all he was going to be a peds-cardiothoracic surgeon. I kindly asked him if he had given any cost benefit analysis of the idea that he wouldn't be a practicing surgeon before 50, and the cost not just for him, but society in general for training such an old surgeon and clearly this thought was just occurring to him. We've all heard way to many cases of pre-meds saying at a young age they plan to pursue some of the hardest careers to achieve in medicine, only to be on SDN a year later asking about back up plans. So take my point with some perspective and a glass of humble tea.

I would akin the OP's post to a high school football player saying they are going to play in the NFL. We all jest and jeer because it is highly improbable with all the pitfalls that so many of us find on the pre-med route, but there is something courageous about openly admitting to people (albeit this is online so maybe not as courageous) you want to do something that has a high rate of failure.

One of my biggest pet peeves about so many pre-meds I know is that they apply to med school and still will never tell you they want to be a doctor because if they get rejected, somehow they think they are considered a failure at life. I know pre-meds for all four years of undergrad who never once said they wanted to be a doctor to anyone until the magic interview day or acceptance and all of a sudden, they have wanted to be a doctor since kindergarten. I do believe they wanted the profession, but there is this stigma that because of the failure rate of med admissions, and competitive residency, many pre-meds won't say openly they want to be a doctor. For me, its practice. Every time someone asks me what I'm doing with my life or going to school for, I tell them I'm applying to medical school. I have since the day I decided to be a doctor. Even when I am doubting my abilities, I keep saying it, and in many ways I made that a self fulfilling prophecy. So OP, if thats what you want to openly admit to wanting, and thats your goal, kudos for owning it, now go back it up in college. After 3 years of college, you may be writing a Personal Statement or answering an interview question saying you want to be an anesthesiologist, so you may as well start getting used to talking about it.
 
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Eh I don't tell anyone at my school I'm premed because I don't want it to turn into a pissing contest about who has the better GPA or ECs. Your goals are your own, and if you're doing this for you (like you should be), then there is no reason to tell everyone.
 
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Is it just me, or do all pre-meds who think they already know what field they want to go into ALWAYS add "pediatric" in front of the field they're interested in? Pediatric anesthesiology, pediatric oncology, etc. I met a LOT of future pediatric neurosurgeons when I was in undergrad.
And they're usually still seeing their own pediatrician...
 
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Wouldn't it actually technically be 16 years, as both fellowships are a year (two if you want to do academics for peds at least)?
So we'll all bookmark this page and meet back here in 2031 to see how it all turned out!
 
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So we'll all bookmark this page and meet back here in 2031 to see how it all turned out!
By the time the OP reaches that point, I'll have been elected president after running on a single-issue platform to increase physician compensation.
 
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In my local AMSA group, I was introduced to a gentleman who was over 40, previously a carpenter, was going to major in French while doing pre-med, and openly told us all he was going to be a peds-cardiothoracic surgeon. I kindly asked him if he had given any cost benefit analysis of the idea that he wouldn't be a practicing surgeon before 50, and the cost not just for him, but society in general for training such an old surgeon and clearly this thought was just occurring to him. We've all heard way to many cases of pre-meds saying at a young age they plan to pursue some of the hardest careers to achieve in medicine, only to be on SDN a year later asking about back up plans. So take my point with some perspective and a glass of humble tea.

I would akin the OP's post to a high school football player saying they are going to play in the NFL. We all jest and jeer because it is highly improbable with all the pitfalls that so many of us find on the pre-med route, but there is something courageous about openly admitting to people (albeit this is online so maybe not as courageous) you want to do something that has a high rate of failure.

One of my biggest pet peeves about so many pre-meds I know is that they apply to med school and still will never tell you they want to be a doctor because if they get rejected, somehow they think they are considered a failure at life. I know pre-meds for all four years of undergrad who never once said they wanted to be a doctor to anyone until the magic interview day or acceptance and all of a sudden, they have wanted to be a doctor since kindergarten. I do believe they wanted the profession, but there is this stigma that because of the failure rate of med admissions, and competitive residency, many pre-meds won't say openly they want to be a doctor. For me, its practice. Every time someone asks me what I'm doing with my life or going to school for, I tell them I'm applying to medical school. I have since the day I decided to be a doctor. Even when I am doubting my abilities, I keep saying it, and in many ways I made that a self fulfilling prophecy. So OP, if thats what you want to openly admit to wanting, and thats your goal, kudos for owning it, now go back it up in college. After 3 years of college, you may be writing a Personal Statement or answering an interview question saying you want to be an anesthesiologist, so you may as well start getting used to talking about it.

I don't think it's about courage though, it's about there being no chance that an 18 year old has the perspective and experience to back up a claim that they're going to be ANY kind of specialist. Saying you're definitely going to be doctor one day could be a sign of courage. Claiming you know what school you're going to go to and what subspecialty you -just know- is for you is just... silly. I wouldn't attack someone for saying it, but rolling your eyes and chuckling is an appropriate response.
 
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In my local AMSA group, I was introduced to a gentleman who was over 40, previously a carpenter, was going to major in French while doing pre-med, and openly told us all he was going to be a peds-cardiothoracic surgeon. I kindly asked him if he had given any cost benefit analysis of the idea that he wouldn't be a practicing surgeon before 50, and the cost not just for him, but society in general for training such an old surgeon and clearly this thought was just occurring to him. We've all heard way to many cases of pre-meds saying at a young age they plan to pursue some of the hardest careers to achieve in medicine, only to be on SDN a year later asking about back up plans. So take my point with some perspective and a glass of humble tea.

I would akin the OP's post to a high school football player saying they are going to play in the NFL. We all jest and jeer because it is highly improbable with all the pitfalls that so many of us find on the pre-med route, but there is something courageous about openly admitting to people (albeit this is online so maybe not as courageous) you want to do something that has a high rate of failure.

One of my biggest pet peeves about so many pre-meds I know is that they apply to med school and still will never tell you they want to be a doctor because if they get rejected, somehow they think they are considered a failure at life. I know pre-meds for all four years of undergrad who never once said they wanted to be a doctor to anyone until the magic interview day or acceptance and all of a sudden, they have wanted to be a doctor since kindergarten. I do believe they wanted the profession, but there is this stigma that because of the failure rate of med admissions, and competitive residency, many pre-meds won't say openly they want to be a doctor. For me, its practice. Every time someone asks me what I'm doing with my life or going to school for, I tell them I'm applying to medical school. I have since the day I decided to be a doctor. Even when I am doubting my abilities, I keep saying it, and in many ways I made that a self fulfilling prophecy. So OP, if thats what you want to openly admit to wanting, and thats your goal, kudos for owning it, now go back it up in college. After 3 years of college, you may be writing a Personal Statement or answering an interview question saying you want to be an anesthesiologist, so you may as well start getting used to talking about it.
9 out of 10 of the people with your attitude I met in college dropped the premed path along the way. To say you want to become something as noble and sacrifice-laden as a physician is admirable. To say you will become a specific sub-subspecialist at 18 is arrogant hubris.
 
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9 out of 10 of the people with your attitude I met in college dropped the premed path along the way. To say you want to become something as noble and sacrifice-laden as a physician is admirable. To say you will become a specific sub-subspecialist at 18 is arrogant hubris.

Same comment at the same time. We're kindred spirits, you and I.
 
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@Loveinglife97 Aw, hi baby Blue Jay! You remind me of myself a little bit (I spent all summer before college looking at grad programs, but now I'm pre-med so it's irrelevant). You're right that it is good to be goal-oriented. Just don't do what I did and limit yourself up if a new path opens up for you. And don't beat yourself up if a mistake / life diverts you from your pre-planned path.

The thread became off-topic so fast, but still, listen to what people are saying. You may be arrogant. You may just be overly idealistic. You may actually do what you say you will. People are just guessing at your motives based on how you sound, but even you have no way of looking at yourself objectively and without bias. Humility and the desire to learn from others are crucial to being a good student, clinician, and general person. It starts here and now, even if you're 1000% sure of what you're going to do.

Also, pro-tip: Start thinking about med schools other than Hopkins. Whether you kill it at Hopkins, or Hopkins kills you, there's a good chance that you'll be tired of the environment and the city after four years. I don't think any of my pre-med friends are interested in Hopkins Med, despite its reputation.

And @Salt Salt, n = 2, because I know that I'm going to do peds, but I have no idea about specialties. I thought that pediatrics vs. adult medicine was one of the first things pre-meds figure out. Because people usually know from life experience whether or not they can stand kids, and then pretty quickly while shadowing / volunteering whether or not they can bear to be around sick and dying kids. Then again, there might be something about the long name that sounds more prestigious, lol. Or the idea that smaller / more fragile patients = more difficult job = more prestigious title.
 
@Loveinglife97 Aw, hi baby Blue Jay! You remind me of myself a little bit (I spent all summer before college looking at grad programs, but now I'm pre-med so it's irrelevant). You're right that it is good to be goal-oriented. Just don't do what I did and limit yourself up if a new path opens up for you. And don't beat yourself up if a mistake / life diverts you from your pre-planned path.

The thread became off-topic so fast, but still, listen to what people are saying. You may be arrogant. You may just be overly idealistic. You may actually do what you say you will. People are just guessing at your motives based on how you sound, but even you have no way of looking at yourself objectively and without bias. Humility and the desire to learn from others are crucial to being a good student, clinician, and general person. It starts here and now, even if you're 1000% sure of what you're going to do.

Also, pro-tip: Start thinking about med schools other than Hopkins. Whether you kill it at Hopkins, or Hopkins kills you, there's a good chance that you'll be tired of the environment and the city after four years. I don't think any of my pre-med friends are interested in Hopkins Med, despite its reputation.

And @Salt Salt, n = 2, because I know that I'm going to do peds, but I have no idea about specialties. I thought that pediatrics vs. adult medicine was one of the first things pre-meds figure out. Because people usually know from life experience whether or not they can stand kids, and then pretty quickly while shadowing / volunteering whether or not they can bear to be around sick and dying kids. Then again, there might be something about the long name that sounds more prestigious, lol. Or the idea that smaller / more fragile patients = more difficult job = more prestigious title.

I agree with the theory that working with children is seen as somehow more noble. I guess in a way it might be. All I know is that as a freshman all other premeds wanted to be pediatric neurosurgeons. I imagine the decision went something like "kids are fun and innocent", *looks up peds compensation*, "Oh...",*looks up nsurg compensation*, "pediatric neurosurgery it is!"
 
I agree with the theory that working with children is seen as somehow more noble. I guess in a way it might be. All I know is that as a freshman all other premeds wanted to be pediatric neurosurgeons. I imagine the decision went something like "kids are fun and innocent", *looks up peds compensation*, "Oh...",*looks up nsurg compensation*, "pediatric neurosurgery it is!"

*looks up length of neurosurgery training + pediatric fellowship*

Welp, guess it's pediatric dermatology now!
 
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9 out of 10 of the people with your attitude I met in college dropped the premed path along the way. To say you want to become something as noble and sacrifice-laden as a physician is admirable. To say you will become a specific sub-subspecialist at 18 is arrogant hubris.

Saw a premed at my school post on twitter the other day: "I just want to be a pediatrician and drive a range rover already!"

Made me wonder what's going through her head considering she has sub-3.0 GPA.
 
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Man, I wish I could get into Johnny Hopkins. It's honestly a once in a lifetime thing; a dream come true. But, alas, we can't all get what we want.

It's better to just be yourself, believe in destiny, and not care what people say. If you truly want to help people, it will show. In the meantime, just get the best GPA you can, study for the MCAT, and just be a good person. You never know where you'll find the best doctor, so try not to always focus on brand names. Sometimes they help, but sometimes they don't mean much (just don't go Caribbean).

It's within all of us to achieve greatness.
 
"pediatric anesthestiology and pain management " smh
That is a lofty goal. you haven't even started freshman year. Lol
 
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