Originally posted by Janice
If you are speaking for yourself when you say there is no pleasure in performing the exam, then I can't argue with you. But don't even look like you want to think about speaking for doctors in general. Not only do women know better (and the populance in general) but you can't leave the media out!
Dr. Brian Finkle, an abortionist of Arizona, is history because of sexual assault/abuse of his patients spanning a period of 18-20 years. Read all about it on the Arizona Republic website.
How could you not see the exam as sexual when it involves a very sexual part of the body? Maybe you are totally unaware of the fact that some doctors are not only capable of committing the crime of sexual assault/rape, but some actually go that far. Ever heard of such a thing with the almighty doctor? You can pull tons of that up on the net just by surfing. Not only that, but you can even buy books about those doctors dinguses. Try reading one, such as The Rape of the city of Lovell. Buy it at Amazon.com.
And yes, I am making it my business to be as informed as I can be. It simply makes good sense for anyone, no matter the gender to know their rights. Especially women.
It is true that a lot of husbands don't want another man dicking around on a territory they consider theirs. As I said, most women prefer a woman doctor when it comes to that often unnecessary exam. As to paps being important, they are only if a woman really needs one. They are not important for every woman, nor should every woman have one. The elderly should not have one, a very young pre-teen should not have one, virgins with hymens that are intact no matter what the age, and anyone who is not having a problem in that area. The exam is not for everybody plan and simple.
When a woman wants a female doctor who she feels comfortable with, it doesn't matter what that doctor's sexual preferance. She (the doctor) would probably keep that under wraps anyway.
By the way, a man is not backwards because he doesn't want another man inside his wife's vagina. Some husbands have managed to talk their wives into switching to a female gyn.
Well, dentists have been accused of sexually violating their patients under anesthesia. Should we not have male dentists? BTW, why would a lesbias female Ob/Gyn be more likely to keep her sexuality out of the exam than a heterosexual male? Your anectdotal evidence of a few Ob/Gyn's who behaved inappropriately proves nothing! I'm sure you can find men and women in every specialty, if not every possible job, that have behaved inappropriately in a sexual way. Maybe we should ban all men from all medical specialties in an effort to circumvent possible sexual assault in the future?
I'd love to hear your source that supports the idea that many husbands do not want their wives going to male gyn's. Given your extremely feminist point of view, I find it hard to believe that you don't advocate these women leave their over-controlling husbands who would rather them go without medical care than *gasp* go to a male ob/gyn.
But what I REALLY want to know is, where you find the evidence supporting your statement about the need for Paps? No woman needs a pap unless they are having a problem with their vagina??? Janice, this is simply ignorance on your part. Any sexually active female should receive pap tests in order to identify changes in the cervical mucosa that may lead to cervical cancer. Cervical cancer, as I'm sure you are aware, is an easily preventable cause of death.
The National Cancer Institute recommends women have pap test performed at least once every 3 years, beginning 3 years after first having intercourse. They also recommend that the first pap be done no later than age 21. This is the general recommendation that most ob/gyn's follow, and for good reason. It's based on evidence for the prevention of invasive cancer of the cervix. Paps can be discontinued after age 65 if they've tested negatively on a consistent basis, however many women choose to continue to have them for their own reassurance...heck, paps have even detected endometrial cancer early, which again, I'm sure you know is another preventable cause of death in elderly women.
An often un-necessary exam? You'd be hard pressed to find ANYONE in medicine or public health administration or the NIH who would agree with that. What a ridiculous, unfounded, blatantly false statement you have made.
No one wants to have private exams like pelvics...and hey, I don't even like doing them honestly...everyone is uncomfortable. But's it's time for you, Janice, to stop spreading untruths around here, and lay off the anti-male propaganda.
Everytime you post, you call more attention to your ignorance. I'm curious as to your position? are you a medical student? a pre-med? a high schooler? a resident (god forbid)? or are you someone who just has to spout off BS that you know nothing about?
It's time for you to go back from whence you came Janice!!!!