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16 psych matches and 0 radiology matches huh... :eyebrow: Is this odd to anyone else? Nobody was interested at all in it?

They have a ton of Anesthesia though. It might just be a quirck of that year's interest. It's possible the only 1 or 2 people that wanted Rads had weaker apps, or even that there just weren't any interested.
 
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16 psych matches and 0 radiology matches huh... :eyebrow: Is this odd to anyone else? Nobody was interested at all in it?

They have a ton of Anesthesia though. It might just be a quirck of that year's interest. It's possible the only 1 or 2 people that wanted Rads had weaker apps, or even that there just weren't any interested.
I can attest that interest in anesthesia was extremely high for AZCOM's 2016 class. I also know a few of the psych matches and they strike me extremely bright people. I don't know how many people in that class wanted radiology.
 
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lol I love how some of some of the big university residencies are written in all caps. Like we get it lecom you had a great match this year! Guess they just wanted to draw more attention to it. Congrats to everyone who matched! :)

It must have been a typing error, since the same hospital in caps is show in various specialities (ex. Penn state is in caps in all residency matches). Their best matches are actually not capitalized ;).
 
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Here is RVU's 2016 match list. It was accidentally posted in the 2015 thread. Thanks to @Haxx for originally posting!

AOA
ANESTHESIOLOGY
McLaren Greater Lansing, Lansing, MI

DIAGNOSTIC RADIOLOGY
Doctors Hospital, Columbus, OH

EMERGENCY MEDICINE
Desert Regional MC, Palm Springs, CA
Marietta Memorial Hospital, Marietta, OH
Mercy Health-Hackley Campus, Muskegon, MI
Botsford Hospital, Farmington Hills, MI
Grandview Hospital & MC, Dayton, OH
Doctors Hospital, Columbus, OH
Good Samaritan Hospital and MC, West Islip, NY

ENT (PGY2)
(PGY2)Oklahoma State University

FAMILY MEDICINE
Via Christi Regional MC, Wichita, KS
Skagit Regional Health, Mount Vernon, WA
Bryn Mawr Hospital, Broomall, PA
Via Christi Regional MC, Wichita, KS
Via Christi Regional MC, Wichita, KS
Alaska FM/Providence Anchorage, AK
St. Anthony Hospital, Oklahoma City, OK
Bay Area Corpus Christi MC, CC, TX
Peak Vista Community Health Centers, CS, CO
University of WI Dept of FM, Madison, WI
MacNeal Hospital, Berwyn, IL
Lake Cumberland Regional Hospital, Somerset, KY
Mercy Health, Muskegon, MI
Greenbrier Valley MC, Ronceverte, WV. Originally matched to Integris Bass Baptist HC, Enid, OK
Texoma Medical Center, Denison, TX

GENERAL SURGERY
Botsford Hospital, Farmington Hills, MI
CarePoint Health-Bayonne MC, Bayonne, NJ
Genesys Regional MC-Health Park, Grand Blanc, MI
UPMC Horizon, Farrell, PA

INTERNAL MEDICINE
Sky Ridge MC, Lone Tree, CO
Sky Ridge MC, Lone Tree, CO
Henry Ford Macomb Hospitals, MEP, Clinton Township, MI
Idaho Physicians Clinic, Blackfoot, ID
Palmetto General Hospital, Hialeah, FL
Skagit Regional Health, Mount Vernon, WA
Sky Ridge MC, Lone Tree, CO
Larkin Community Hospital, South Miami, FL
Swedish Covenant Hospital, Chicago, IL
Henry Ford Macomb Hospitals, MEP, Clinton Township, MI

OB/GYN
McLaren Greater Lansing, Lansing, MI
Botsford Hospital, Farmington Hills, MI
Palisades MC, North Bergen, NJ
Mercy St. Vincent, University of Toledo, Ohio

OTOLARYNGOLOGY/FACIAL PS
St. Elizabeth Boardman Hospital, Boardman, OH

OPHTHALMOLOGY
Larkin Community Hospital, South Miami, FL

ORTHOPEDIC SURGERY
Good Samaritan Regional MC, Corvallis, OR
Plainview Hospital, Plainview, NY
Valley Consortium for Medical Education, Modesto, CA
Oklahoma State University MC, Tulsa, OK
Community Memorial Health System, Ventura, CA
Community Memorial Health System, Ventura, CA
Oklahoma State University MC, Tulsa, OK
PEDIATRICS
Edward W. Sparrow Hospital, Lansing, MI
PSYCHIATRY
Centerstone of Florida, Bradenton, FL

TRI
Orange Regional Medical Center in Middletown, NY
Sky Ridge MC, Lone Tree, CO
Southampton Hospital, Southampton, NY
Nassau University MC, East Meadow, NY
Sampson Regional MC, Clinton, NC
Captial Region Medical Center, Jefferson City, MO
Southampton Hospital, Southampton, NY
Sky Ridge MC, Lone Tree, CO
Aront Ogden MC, Elmira, New York
Sampson Regional MC, Clinton, NC

ACGME

ANESTHESIOLOGY
University Hospitals, Jackson, MS
U of CO SOM, Denver (PGY1, Prelim Surg, St Joseph Hospital SCL Health-CO
Cedars-Sinai MC, LA, CA
Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland, OH
U of IA Hospitals and Clinics, Iowa City, IA
U Florida COM, Jacksonville, FL (PGY1, Prelim Surgery, St. Jospeph Hospital SCL Health, CO
U of Kansas SOM, Kansas City, KS
Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland, OH

DIAGNOSTIC RADIOLOGY
U of NE MC, Omaha, NE (TY at Providence Sacred Heart MC, Spokane, WA)
Henry Ford HSC, Detroit, MI
Providence Sacred Heart MC, Spokane, WA
Baystate MC, Springfield, MA

EMERGENCY MEDICINE
Western Michigan U, Stryker SOM, Kalamazoo, MI
U of KY MC, Lexington, KY
St. Louis U SOM, St. Louis, MO
Medical College of Georgia, Augusta, GA
U of IL, St. Francis MC, Peoria, IL
U of Arkansas, Little Rock

FAMILY MEDICINE
Hidalgo Medical Services, Silver City, NM
University of MO, KC Programs, Kansas City, KS
U of CO, Rose FM, Denver
U of Tennessee COM, Knoxville, TN
Ft Collins FM, FC, CO
St. Mary Corwin, Pueblo, Co
St. Mary Corwin, Pueblo, Co
Montana FM, Billings, MT
Central Iowa Health System, Des Moines, IA
Clarkson FM Residency, Omaha, NE
Rapid City Regional Hospital, RC, SD
Loyola University MC, Cook County-Loyola-Provident, Chicago, IL
Texas Tech U affiliated, Amarillo, TX

GENERAL SURGERY
Baylor University MC, Dallas TX
St. Joseph Hospital SCL Health, Denver CO

PRELIM SURGERY
St. Joseph Mercy, Oakland, MI
U of Tennessee COM, Mephis
University Hospitals, Columbia, MO
Carilion Clinic, Virgian Tech Carilion SOM, Roanoke, VA

INTERNAL MEDICINE
U of Chicago MC, Chicago, IL
Advocate Lutheran General Hospital, Park Ridge, IL
St. Joseph Hospital HCL Health, Denver CO
U of Texas Rio Grande Valley, Edinburg, TX
St. Joseph Hospital HCL Health, Denver CO
U of KY MC, Lexington, KY
St. Joseph Hospital HCL Health, Denver CO
U of Arkansas, Fayetteville Community Programs, Fayetteville, AR
Mercy Medical Center, Des Moines, IA
OB/GYN
U of KS SOM, Wichita, KS
Akron General MC, NEOMED, Akron OH
Danbury Hosptial, Danbury, CT
U of CT SOM, Farmington, CT
St. Joseph Hospital HCL Health, Denver CO

PATHOLOGY
U of Kansas, Kansas City
Penrose Hospital, Colorado Springs, CO
Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland OH

PEDIATRICS
NYMC, Westchester MC, Valhalla, NY
Dartmouth-Hitchcock MC, Lebanon, NH
U of Arkansas, Little Rock
University of NE MC, Omaha, NE
University of MN Medical School, Minneapolis, MN
U of Tennessee COM, Memphis, TN
University of NE MC, Omaha, NE
U of TX Medical School, Houston, TX
LSU SOM, New Orleans, LA
U of NM SOM, Albuquerque, NM
Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland, OH
U of New Mexico SOM, Albuquerque, NM
U of Minnesota Medical School, Minneapolis, MN

INTERNAL MEDICINE/PEDIATRICS
Grand Rapids Medical Ed Partners, Grand Rapids, MI
ORTHOPEDIC SURGERY
McLaren Regional MC, Flint, MI

PSYCHIATRY
Palmetto Health Richland, Columbia, SC
U of CO SOM, Denver
Maine MC, Portland Maine

Military

Air Force
Internal Medicine Keesler AFB, Biloxi, Mississippi
Internal Medicine San Antonio (SAMMC)
Internal Medicine San Antonio (SAMMC)
General Surgery Travis AFB/UC Davis
Wants EM Civilian deferred
Family Medicine Offutt AFB, Omaha, NE
Emergency Medicine San Antonio (SAMMC)

Army
Internal Medicine Tripler, Hawaii
Orthopedic Surgery Madigan Army MC
Pediatrics Tripler, Hawaii
Emergency Medicine Darnall Military MC
Transitional Year Eisenhower Army MC, Augusta, GA
Transitional Year William Beaumont AMC, El Paso

Navy
Internal Medicine Navy MC, Portsmouth, VA
Transitional Year NMC, Bethesda, Maryland
Family Medicine Naval Hospital, Camp Pendleton, CA
Transitional Year Navy MC, Portsmouth, VA
 
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I suppose the more accurate statement would be, not a lot of DOs match there, so it must have been tough. Congrats to the guy/girl for another crack in the ceiling.

I really want to impress upon you guys that residency apps is the time to dream big. Apply broad. Obviously have backups and be realistic, but it might be worth it to apply to programs that you're really interested in that don't take DOs. At worst you lose an app fee.
Rule of 1/3s kids. Know it. Use it. Match.
 
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Rule of 1/3s kids. Know it. Use it. Match.
Just to clarify, that refers to applications, right? 1/3 reach, 1/3 middle of the road, and 1/3 "safety"? Should it also apply to which interview offers to take, assuming that you're getting more than you could realistically attend?
 
Just to clarify, that refers to applications, right? 1/3 reach, 1/3 middle of the road, and 1/3 "safety"? Should it also apply to which interview offers to take, assuming that you're getting more than you could realistically attend?
Just apply broadly, including a few reaches. If you get an interview you have a shot at matching. I cautiously would recommend 40-50 applications unless you are a 260 student going into primary care. When you are applying on ERAS you really don't get a good fell of what competitive is, what middle of the road is. Just apply to programs you are interested in if you have the statistics to match into that speciality.
 
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Just to clarify, that refers to applications, right? 1/3 reach, 1/3 middle of the road, and 1/3 "safety"? Should it also apply to which interview offers to take, assuming that you're getting more than you could realistically attend?
I would most certainly try to apply the 1/3s with interviews as well. In fact, I think that's where it matters most. If you want to play it safe and match, this is a solid approach and comes highly recommended by many. Folks should not be nonchalant about this.
 
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Here is RVU's 2016 match list. It was accidentally posted in the 2015 thread. Thanks to @Haxx for originally posting!

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If my count is correct, that's 19 surgical matches (not counting preliminary) out of a class of 151. Isn't that an abnormally large proportion of students for a DO school?
 
Here is RVU's 2016 match list. It was accidentally posted in the 2015 thread. Thanks to @Haxx for originally posting!

AOA
ANESTHESIOLOGY
McLaren Greater Lansing, Lansing, MI

DIAGNOSTIC RADIOLOGY
Doctors Hospital, Columbus, OH

EMERGENCY MEDICINE
Desert Regional MC, Palm Springs, CA
Marietta Memorial Hospital, Marietta, OH
Mercy Health-Hackley Campus, Muskegon, MI
Botsford Hospital, Farmington Hills, MI
Grandview Hospital & MC, Dayton, OH
Doctors Hospital, Columbus, OH
Good Samaritan Hospital and MC, West Islip, NY

ENT (PGY2)
(PGY2)Oklahoma State University

FAMILY MEDICINE
Via Christi Regional MC, Wichita, KS
Skagit Regional Health, Mount Vernon, WA
Bryn Mawr Hospital, Broomall, PA
Via Christi Regional MC, Wichita, KS
Via Christi Regional MC, Wichita, KS
Alaska FM/Providence Anchorage, AK
St. Anthony Hospital, Oklahoma City, OK
Bay Area Corpus Christi MC, CC, TX
Peak Vista Community Health Centers, CS, CO
University of WI Dept of FM, Madison, WI
MacNeal Hospital, Berwyn, IL
Lake Cumberland Regional Hospital, Somerset, KY
Mercy Health, Muskegon, MI
Greenbrier Valley MC, Ronceverte, WV. Originally matched to Integris Bass Baptist HC, Enid, OK
Texoma Medical Center, Denison, TX

GENERAL SURGERY
Botsford Hospital, Farmington Hills, MI
CarePoint Health-Bayonne MC, Bayonne, NJ
Genesys Regional MC-Health Park, Grand Blanc, MI
UPMC Horizon, Farrell, PA

INTERNAL MEDICINE
Sky Ridge MC, Lone Tree, CO
Sky Ridge MC, Lone Tree, CO
Henry Ford Macomb Hospitals, MEP, Clinton Township, MI
Idaho Physicians Clinic, Blackfoot, ID
Palmetto General Hospital, Hialeah, FL
Skagit Regional Health, Mount Vernon, WA
Sky Ridge MC, Lone Tree, CO
Larkin Community Hospital, South Miami, FL
Swedish Covenant Hospital, Chicago, IL
Henry Ford Macomb Hospitals, MEP, Clinton Township, MI

OB/GYN
McLaren Greater Lansing, Lansing, MI
Botsford Hospital, Farmington Hills, MI
Palisades MC, North Bergen, NJ
Mercy St. Vincent, University of Toledo, Ohio

OTOLARYNGOLOGY/FACIAL PS
St. Elizabeth Boardman Hospital, Boardman, OH

OPHTHALMOLOGY
Larkin Community Hospital, South Miami, FL

ORTHOPEDIC SURGERY
Good Samaritan Regional MC, Corvallis, OR
Plainview Hospital, Plainview, NY
Valley Consortium for Medical Education, Modesto, CA
Oklahoma State University MC, Tulsa, OK
Community Memorial Health System, Ventura, CA
Community Memorial Health System, Ventura, CA
Oklahoma State University MC, Tulsa, OK
PEDIATRICS
Edward W. Sparrow Hospital, Lansing, MI
PSYCHIATRY
Centerstone of Florida, Bradenton, FL

TRI
Orange Regional Medical Center in Middletown, NY
Sky Ridge MC, Lone Tree, CO
Southampton Hospital, Southampton, NY
Nassau University MC, East Meadow, NY
Sampson Regional MC, Clinton, NC
Captial Region Medical Center, Jefferson City, MO
Southampton Hospital, Southampton, NY
Sky Ridge MC, Lone Tree, CO
Aront Ogden MC, Elmira, New York
Sampson Regional MC, Clinton, NC

ACGME

ANESTHESIOLOGY
University Hospitals, Jackson, MS
U of CO SOM, Denver (PGY1, Prelim Surg, St Joseph Hospital SCL Health-CO
Cedars-Sinai MC, LA, CA
Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland, OH
U of IA Hospitals and Clinics, Iowa City, IA
U Florida COM, Jacksonville, FL (PGY1, Prelim Surgery, St. Jospeph Hospital SCL Health, CO
U of Kansas SOM, Kansas City, KS
Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland, OH

DIAGNOSTIC RADIOLOGY
U of NE MC, Omaha, NE (TY at Providence Sacred Heart MC, Spokane, WA)
Henry Ford HSC, Detroit, MI
Providence Sacred Heart MC, Spokane, WA
Baystate MC, Springfield, MA

EMERGENCY MEDICINE
Western Michigan U, Stryker SOM, Kalamazoo, MI
U of KY MC, Lexington, KY
St. Louis U SOM, St. Louis, MO
Medical College of Georgia, Augusta, GA
U of IL, St. Francis MC, Peoria, IL
U of Arkansas, Little Rock

FAMILY MEDICINE
Hidalgo Medical Services, Silver City, NM
University of MO, KC Programs, Kansas City, KS
U of CO, Rose FM, Denver
U of Tennessee COM, Knoxville, TN
Ft Collins FM, FC, CO
St. Mary Corwin, Pueblo, Co
St. Mary Corwin, Pueblo, Co
Montana FM, Billings, MT
Central Iowa Health System, Des Moines, IA
Clarkson FM Residency, Omaha, NE
Rapid City Regional Hospital, RC, SD
Loyola University MC, Cook County-Loyola-Provident, Chicago, IL
Texas Tech U affiliated, Amarillo, TX

GENERAL SURGERY
Baylor University MC, Dallas TX
St. Joseph Hospital SCL Health, Denver CO

PRELIM SURGERY
St. Joseph Mercy, Oakland, MI
U of Tennessee COM, Mephis
University Hospitals, Columbia, MO
Carilion Clinic, Virgian Tech Carilion SOM, Roanoke, VA

INTERNAL MEDICINE
U of Chicago MC, Chicago, IL
Advocate Lutheran General Hospital, Park Ridge, IL
St. Joseph Hospital HCL Health, Denver CO
U of Texas Rio Grande Valley, Edinburg, TX
St. Joseph Hospital HCL Health, Denver CO
U of KY MC, Lexington, KY
St. Joseph Hospital HCL Health, Denver CO
U of Arkansas, Fayetteville Community Programs, Fayetteville, AR
Mercy Medical Center, Des Moines, IA
OB/GYN
U of KS SOM, Wichita, KS
Akron General MC, NEOMED, Akron OH
Danbury Hosptial, Danbury, CT
U of CT SOM, Farmington, CT
St. Joseph Hospital HCL Health, Denver CO

PATHOLOGY
U of Kansas, Kansas City
Penrose Hospital, Colorado Springs, CO
Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland OH

PEDIATRICS
NYMC, Westchester MC, Valhalla, NY
Dartmouth-Hitchcock MC, Lebanon, NH
U of Arkansas, Little Rock
University of NE MC, Omaha, NE
University of MN Medical School, Minneapolis, MN
U of Tennessee COM, Memphis, TN
University of NE MC, Omaha, NE
U of TX Medical School, Houston, TX
LSU SOM, New Orleans, LA
U of NM SOM, Albuquerque, NM
Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland, OH
U of New Mexico SOM, Albuquerque, NM
U of Minnesota Medical School, Minneapolis, MN

INTERNAL MEDICINE/PEDIATRICS
Grand Rapids Medical Ed Partners, Grand Rapids, MI
ORTHOPEDIC SURGERY
McLaren Regional MC, Flint, MI

PSYCHIATRY
Palmetto Health Richland, Columbia, SC
U of CO SOM, Denver
Maine MC, Portland Maine

Military

Air Force
Internal Medicine Keesler AFB, Biloxi, Mississippi
Internal Medicine San Antonio (SAMMC)
Internal Medicine San Antonio (SAMMC)
General Surgery Travis AFB/UC Davis
Wants EM Civilian deferred
Family Medicine Offutt AFB, Omaha, NE
Emergency Medicine San Antonio (SAMMC)

Army
Internal Medicine Tripler, Hawaii
Orthopedic Surgery Madigan Army MC
Pediatrics Tripler, Hawaii
Emergency Medicine Darnall Military MC
Transitional Year Eisenhower Army MC, Augusta, GA
Transitional Year William Beaumont AMC, El Paso

Navy
Internal Medicine Navy MC, Portsmouth, VA
Transitional Year NMC, Bethesda, Maryland
Family Medicine Naval Hospital, Camp Pendleton, CA
Transitional Year Navy MC, Portsmouth, VA
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RVU students matching Anest at Cedars-Sinai in LA, CA (unheard of) and what appears to be IM at University of Chicago although I have yet to confirm The UC or NS. It also looks like they're hogging all the good Opti-West AOA spots (ortho) that traditionally belong to AZCOM, Western, and Touro students.

Love how ignorants continue to harp on this school on the basis that it's for-profit when they know nothing of what that entails. They make their students take the USMLE, have a hardcore systems curriculum that covers all the material multiple times, and have yet to expand their class sizes into the 200's+ (although the branch campus wasn't the best idea). It's in an awesome area that will get your a** back to CA if that's your objective. It looks like all they do is get s*** done.


This school eats AZCOM, Touro CA and Western for lunch even though they have a combined 70 years of experience on it.
 
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If my count is correct, that's 19 surgical matches (not counting preliminary) out of a class of 151. Isn't that an abnormally large proportion of students for a DO school?

It helps that Dr. Anthony LaPorta is a full-time faculty member there who was one of the early developers of the daVinci surgery system and ran the general surgery residency program at Eisenhower Army Medical Center before coming to RVU. I'm sure he points students in the right direction. An LOR from such a nationally recognized surgeon does help too haha

It's in an awesome area that will get your a** back to CA if that's your objective. It looks like all they do is get s*** done..

Last year they had a student match Ob/Gyn at Kaiser Permanente in Hollywood and an EM match at UCLA's Ronald Reagan Medical Center. If you do well enough at any school, I'm sure coming back to CA is a possibility.
 
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RVU student matched Anest at Cedars-Sinai in LA, CA (unheard of) and what appears to be IM at University of Chicago although I have yet to confirm the UC or NS. It also looks like they're hogging all the good AOA spots (ortho) that traditionally belong to AZCOM, Western, and Touro students.

Love how ignorants continue to harp on this school on the basis that it's for-profit when they know nothing of what that entails. They make their students take the USMLE, have a hardcore systems curriculum that covers all the material multiple times, and have yet to expand their class sizes into the 200's+ (although the branch campus wasn't the best idea). It's in an awesome area that will get your a** back to CA if that's your objective. It looks like all they do is get s*** done.
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This school eats AZCOM, Touro CA and Western for lunch even though they have a combined 70 years of experience on it. .
This is exactly why everything on SDN should be taken with a grain of salt. It was all doom and gloom about RVU and the Osteopathic profession until RVU's match lists all of a sudden became the best in the DO world - and their USMLE scores are reportedly on par or better than their state MD friends up the road.

They do their students a wonderful service by making every single one of them take the USMLE. It is probably why their match lists are so much better than everyone else's as a whole.
 
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This is exactly why everything on SDN should be taken with a grain of salt. It was all doom and gloom about RVU and the Osteopathic profession until RVU's match lists all of a sudden became the best in the DO world - and their USMLE scores are reportedly on par or better than their state MD friends up the road.
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They do their students a wonderful service by making every single one of them take the USMLE. It is probably why their match lists are so much better than everyone else's as a whole..

A lot of RVU students rotate through the hospital I work at and they all say the USMLE thing is huge and that when it comes time to apply for residency they are really well advised and are often told to be aggressive when applying, meaning to apply to places even if they aren't the most DO friendly because you just never know how the match will shake out.
 
This is exactly why everything on SDN should be taken with a grain of salt. It was all doom and gloom about RVU and the Osteopathic profession until RVU's match lists all of a sudden became the best in the DO world - and their USMLE scores are reportedly on par or better than their state MD friends up the road.
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They do their students a wonderful service by making every single one of them take the USMLE. It is probably why their match lists are so much better than everyone else's as a whole..
Lol...what
 
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For $50,000 in tuition and another $20,000 in living expenses it better make you the best DO in the world. You are looking at $250-300k in debt the day you walk across the stage and get your diploma.
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RVU has one of the cheapest private medical school (MD & DO) tuition in the country, I believe it's # 11 or something. US News & World Report did an article on it a few year ago. WesternCOMP is $58k in tuition, CCOM is $68k in tuition, AZCOM is $64k in tuition, if you are out of state, MSUCOM is $80k, NYITCOM is $56k, Touro in CA is also $50k, etc. At RVU 1 out of 5 students are on the full HPSP scholarship and, outside of that, 1/5 students are on an institutional scholarship. I don't know when you graduated but, in today's market, $50k is on the low side of tuition, on both the MD and DO side, unfortunately.
No one borrows $20k for "living expenses." Rent is crazy cheap here. The school allows you to borrow $20k because a lot of the students have families with children and a large cap allows for students to care for this spouses with children.

RVU was Never Great

I'm going to RVU and even I don't think it's "great," at least not now. It's best to ignore some of the premed exaggerations, especially on the Match List thread.
 
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RVU has one of the cheapest private medical school (MD & DO) tuition in the country, I believe it's # 11 or something. US News & World Report did an article on it a few year ago. WesternCOMP is $58k in tuition, CCOM is $68k in tuition, AZCOM is $64k in tuition, if you are out of state, MSUCOM is $80k, NYITCOM is $56k, Touro in CA is also $50k, etc. At RVU 1 out of 5 students are on the full HPSP scholarship and, outside of that, 1/5 students are on an institutional scholarship. I don't know when you graduated but, in today's market, $50k is on the low side of tuition, on both the MD and DO side, unfortunately.
No one borrows $20k for "living expenses." Rent is crazy cheap here. The school allows you to borrow $20k because a lot of the students have families with children and a large cap allows for students to care for this spouses with children.



I'm going to RVU and even I don't think it's "great," at least not now. It's best to ignore some of the premed exaggerations, especially on the Match List thread.

To be fair, I just made that quote because I was playing off the political quotes right now... Trump side "Make America Great Again" and liberal/Bernie/Hillary side "America was never great"
 
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RVU students matching Anest at Cedars-Sinai in LA, CA (unheard of) and what appears to be IM at University of Chicago although I have yet to confirm The UC or NS. It also looks like they're hogging all the good Opti-West AOA spots (ortho) that traditionally belong to AZCOM, Western, and Touro students.

Love how ignorants continue to harp on this school on the basis that it's for-profit when they know nothing of what that entails. They make their students take the USMLE, have a hardcore systems curriculum that covers all the material multiple times, and have yet to expand their class sizes into the 200's+ (although the branch campus wasn't the best idea). It's in an awesome area that will get your a** back to CA if that's your objective. It looks like all they do is get s*** done.
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This school eats AZCOM, Touro CA and Western for lunch even though they have a combined 70 years of experience on it. .


Its Northshore. I'm a prelim/ty here and he is on the match list. Honestly the DOs here are intelligent so it's a good match. Not true uchicago but it'll make him decently competitive for some fellowships.


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ACGME ortho in New York, I bet that guy is walking on air
 
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The BID match in anesthesia is also impressive (mid-tier from what the anesthesia residents in the residency sub-forum have been stating). I think they only have 1 DO in the entire residency roster.
 
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People keep acting like these anesthesia matches are "glass ceiling breakers" when what they really are are "canaries in the coal mine" re: the rapidly declining competitiveness of anesthesia.
Even though competitiveness is declining, does that mean jobs/compensation will continue to decline/become all but non-existent? Or will this still be a viable field for future physicians to make a decent living?
 
"People keep acting like these anesthesia matches are "glass ceiling breakers" when what they really are are "canaries in the coal mine" re: the rapidly declining competitiveness of anesthesia."

So... When DO's are getting accepted its time to get out?
 
"People keep acting like these anesthesia matches are "glass ceiling breakers" when what they really are are "canaries in the coal mine" re: the rapidly declining competitiveness of anesthesia."

So... When DO's are getting accepted its time to get out?

No, when MDs get out it's time for DOs to get in
 
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People keep acting like these anesthesia matches are "glass ceiling breakers" when what they really are are "canaries in the coal mine" re: the rapidly declining competitiveness of anesthesia.

I will interject by saying that I don't consider this match to be a ceiling breaker, it is a mid-tier program and DOs have matched to similar quality program on several occasions. What makes the match difficult is because of its prime location. It is still good to see DOs matching into such places even when considering all the factors.

While true that the decline of interest is part of the reason why it is easier for DOs to match. However, it is not enough that the top places could not use a non-LCME filter and still get excellent candidates. Compare radiology to anesthesia, even they have a lack of interest but DOs are locked out of top places and some mid-tier residencies are difficult to match into. Even though anesthesia is facing a similar situation, the ceiling is still higher for DOs. So I agree with @Mad Jack in that it is a combination of both.
 
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I will interject by saying that I don't consider this match to be a ceiling breaker, it is a mid-tier program and DOs have matched to similar quality program on several occasions. What makes the match difficult is because of its prime location. It is still good to see DOs matching into such places even when considering all the factors.

While true that the decline of interest is part of the reason why it is easier for DOs to match. However, it is not enough that the top places could not use a non-LCME filter and still get excellent candidates. Compare radiology to anesthesia, even they have a lack of interest but DOs are locked out of top places and some mid-tier residencies are difficult to match into. Even though anesthesia is facing a similar situation, the ceiling is still higher for DOs. So I agree with @Mad Jack in that it is a combination of both.

Radiology is on the rebound and always had a higher avg. USMLE (240ish) than anesthesia but your point is well taken. DOs are definitely locked out of top radiology programs and need to be superstars to get into upper-mid programs. MD students seem to try to guess more at future job markets and prospects whereas DOs seem to just pick what they want to do. This is a sweeping generalization but seems to be true from what I've seen. I would guess that it has to do with MD schools having a lot of mentors/advisors and DO schools having virtually none. Do what you want to do and don't focus on what MDs are doing. They'll be back to anesthesia eventually.
 
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Does anyone have the match list for WCUCOM ?
 
So I wasn't sure where I should post this, but I wanted it out there in case I ever forget.

The 2016 DO match rate (as in true match rate) for all seniors seeking GME is somewhere between 87.2% and 88.4%. For reference, the US MD seniors 2016 match rate was 93.9%.

The range is due to the lack of breakdown of the 132 DOs that SOAPed into seniors vs. pastgraduates. At least 69 seniors attained positions in the SOAP. If all of the other DOs who SOAPed were seniors, the match rate would be 87.2%. If all of the other DOs that SOAPed were previous graduates, the matchrate would be 88.4%. The true match rate is likely somewhere between these two.

The corrected DO senior NRMP match rate is somewhere between 86.4% and 88.8%, again varied depending on the breakdown of the SOAP. 2699 seniors and 283 previous graduates participated in the NRMP match. 2465 seniors attained positions in the NRMP match and SOAP.

The combined DO senior and graduates NRMP match rate is the reported 80.3%. For comparison, the combined US MD senior and graduate NRMP match rate is ~90%.

The 2016 placement rate of DO seniors is 99.61% meaning that 21 current graduates (0.39%) that wanted GME failed to attain it. An additional 43 did not wish to attain GME this year. 535 current DO graduates scrambled into AOA spots (~10%, which is the majority of the remaining 11.2%-12.4% unmatched seniors that placed).

The information I used to arrive at this is from these two documents:

http://www.nrmp.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/Main-Match-Results-and-Data-2016.pdf
http://www.aacom.org/docs/default-source/data-and-trends/2016-match-report.pdf?sfvrsn=20
 
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