I work in the military system, so billing is not an issue. They inject intercostal, and are getting about 48 hours of decent pain relief from that. Considering where I trained, we usually pulled the epidural within 48 hours, the duration of analgesia is the same, although I still argue that a properly placed thoracic epidural offered superior pain relief. Thoracic epidurals used to be done more commonly here before I arrived, but I get the sense that the surgeons stopped asking for them because they were tired of: 1) waiting to start because the staff doing the case had an SRNA or was covering CRNAs who would take forever repeatedly impaling patients, 2) dealing with hypotension and their patients getting more fluid post-op, and 3) the anesthesiologists themselves didn't like to have to round on the patients afterwards. The willingness to hand these cases and procedures off to the nurses, and the lack of interest in anything outside of the operating room are some of the issues that I have with the other members of my department.
TEP's are losing popularity for other resions also. I know that post hoc analysis are not very reliable but TEP is going to be under great scrutiny after this study
Neuraxial block, death and serious cardiovascular morbidity in the POISE trial.
Br J Anaesth. 2013 Sep;111(3):382-90
BACKGROUND:
This post hoc analysis aimed to determine whether neuraxial block was associated with a composite of cardiovascular death, non-fatal myocardial infarction (MI) and non-fatal cardiac arrest within 30 days of randomization in POISE trial patients.
METHODS:
A total of 8351 non-cardiac surgical patients at high risk of cardiovascular complications were randomized to β-blocker or placebo. Neuraxial block was defined as spinal, lumbar or thoracic epidural anaesthesia. Logistic regression, with weighting using estimated propensity scores, was used to determine the association between neuraxial block and primary and secondary outcomes.
RESULTS:
Neuraxial block was associated with an increased risk of the primary outcome [287 (7.3%) vs 229 (5.7%); odds ratio (OR), 1.24; 95% confidence interval (CI), 1.02-1.49; P=0.03] and MI [230 (5.9%) vs 177 (4.4%); OR, 1.32; 95% CI, 1.07-1.64; P=0.009] but not stroke [23 (0.6%) vs 32 (0.8%); OR, 0.76; 95% CI, 0.44-1.33; P=0.34], death [96 (2.5%) vs 111 (2.8%); OR, 0.87; 95% CI, 0.65-1.17; P=0.37] or clinically significant hypotension [522 (13.4%) vs 484 (12.1%); OR, 1.13; 95% CI, 0.99-1.30; P=0.08].
Thoracic epidural with general anaesthesia was associated with a worse primary outcome than general anaesthesia alone [86 (12.1%) vs 119 (5.4%); OR, 2.95; 95% CI, 2.00-4.35; P<0.001].
CONCLUSIONS:
In patients at high risk of cardiovascular morbidity, neuraxial block was associated with an increased risk of adverse cardiovascular outcomes, which could be causal or because of residual confounding