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    st john fisher or midwestern??!?!?!?! can't decide..deposits are due on the same day haha help?
  2. kate311

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    st john fisher or midwestern?!?!?!?! can't decide..deposits are due the same day! haha help?
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    I'm in the same situation...I'm going to have to dish out 1000 bucks since I won't hear from UIC or Purdue for awhile :lame: but can't complain I'm super excited to be going to pharmacy school next year where ever it may be :D
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    I am sure if you need more time to think, if you call them they can extend your deposit due date. Won't hurt to ask. Good Luck
  6. imclarkent

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    the email acceptance i received wasn't really clear in the beginning until i kept reading towards the end. i was expecting the acceptance letter to start off with, "we are pleased to inform you that blah blah blah.." instead it just said that the admissions committee met recently and has made a final decision. (for some reason it sounded like it would be a let down email lol) but the email continued to say that i should have access to the acceptance information through the online system. then i started to jump. haha. anyone else felt the same?
  7. Ayuka001

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    Just got an interview invite :)
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    ME TOO!!! I just got an invite! Finally :) I have been waiting for it! I scheduled 1/11 :)
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    Lol congrats! Is Midwestern higher on ur list than Shenandoah?
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    I am not sure! Shenandoah is for sure one of my top choice! I really like the people over there! So you are not going for more interview? Northstate is not a full credit school. I saw you got an interview in University of Denver! I want to get an interview there too! Anyways, I am happy that both of us got into somewhere! :) GL!!!
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    Argh I know I just withdrew and cancel my interview at uc Denver :( so sad cuz I know it's a good school. But I need to stay in CA b/c I can't leave my mom all by herself so unless I get interview at another CA school most likely I'll be going to northstate. Goodluck wit ur interview at Midwestern :)
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    I felt the same way! I thought it would say something like welcome to Midwestern or something along those lines.
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    Well, looks like I'm headed to Midwestern this coming year! Happy I get to stay in Chicago. See you all there!
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    I declined my offer for admission. Good luck to everyone!
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    To those who got accepted or current students, what made you choose Midwestern?
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    Hi everyone. Can someone tell me if most students live on campus or live in apartments nearby? And if they do live in apartments, which ones? I'm not from the area and would like to live near other students, but preferably not on campus. Any help would be really appreciated!!
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    i know its still early in the game, but has anyone looked into housing yet? are there any off campus apartments near the school and how are people finding room mates? i've been looking online for apartments and Yorktown Apartments look really nice! I was wondering if anyone knows someone who lives there and could give their input. thanks!
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    I picked Jan. 4th for my interview date, how was it for everyone else?
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    Hey, me too! I picked the 4th. Kind of a bummer that it's in the middle of the week. I work full time and will be flying in from CA, so Wed wasn't ideal. But, SO excited about getting an interview! I haven't done group interviews yet, but looking forward to it. It should be fun. :D
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    Yea would much rather have it on a friday or monday. Im coming from CA, what part are you from?
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    Just curious, who got in to Midwestern by completing ALL pre-reqs at a CC? I am torn on what I should do! My GPA will be above average (only have 4 classes left to take). Does Midwestern care much about the CC vs Uni? Thanks!
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    From San Diego. You?
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    Many students do live on-campus. Majority in Redwood. The traditional halls are alright. Pines are really nice. I know my undergraduate university limited on-campus housing to the 1st and 2nd years; MWU allows you to live on-campus for 3-months, 6-months, 9-months, or 12-months and for any student (regardless of your class year). Some people have stayed for all 3 didactic years.

    Off-campus: many student's I've heard live in Versaille on the Lakes. One of my friends live in Yorktown apartments by himself and it's very nice. They're doing construction on the parking structure so he parks his car next to McDonald's and the apartment complex provides a shuttle system to bring you to and from your car from your apartment.
  25. freshnewkicks

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    waitlisted :( No email. I got a letter via snail mail.
    jkong do you have any idea when they start taking people off the waitlist. Is it around march/april?
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    What date was your interview?
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    Nov 9th
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    So we woke up in the morning today, and there was a nice blanket of snow everywhere. It was getting cold, but today was the first day of actual snowfall. I'm sure it's only getting colder from here on out. For those coming on interviews after today, warm up and layer up! :)
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    After looking through some of the posts, I'll provide my thoughts about the typical problems pre-pharmacy students face with: "WHICH PHARMACY SCHOOL DO I GO TO?!"

    Basically, my advice is choose the school that fits YOU the best. Don't worry too much about what you SHOULD do, and worry more about what you WANT to do. I talked to my preceptor and he went to UIC while his girlfriend at the time went to Midwestern. No offense to anyone who goes to UIC, but he absolutely hated UIC. He would sit in on his girlfriend's lectures at Midwestern and take the UIC exams. He regreted going to UIC and regreted not going to Midwestern, even if the tuition difference was about $20,000 a year. If he had to do it again, he would totally choose Midwestern. He jokes: "All the white hairs that I have are from attending UIC."

    My point: Choose the school that YOU would be happy with.

    My personal reasons why I choose Midwestern:
    1) It's a small campus. Even though your class will be about 200+ students, the school is only about 2000~2200 students big. Everything's compact, and it's not like a huge university. And because the campus is small, security is really good. Again, if you like the huge university feel, maybe MWU isn't for you.
    2) Strong tradition and reputable history. The history of MWU is kinda complicated, but MWU is a pharmacy school that's been around for awhile. MWU has been around for 20 years, while the Chicago College of Pharmacy (CCP) has been around for almost 140. I know this doesn't make sense, but it's not really important. Basically, it's an accredited school. I personally don't like the uncertainty of a school that's not accredited.
    3) Strong connections with residency sites. One of the things that I'm really looking forward to after pharmacy school is residency. Looking at MWU's website, they have a lot of strong connections with residency sites, such as MICU and NICU residencies at reputable sites like Rush Hospital and DuPage Hospital. I wouldn't want to go to a school that has a reputation of, "Ohh, Midwestern students suck."
    4) Faculty and staff genuinely care about the students. And I'm not just talking about the professors or teachers. For example, I personally think the Financial Aid office is super helpful. They hold weekly workshops to help students manage their student loans and housing loans. And they give free food too, so that's always good :)
    5) I wanted to get away from home. Again, if you don't wanna go away from home and you don't live in Illinois, or if you live in Illinois and you want to go away, maybe MWU isn't for you.

    Again, main point: Choose a school that will make YOU happy.

    Overall, I'm extremely happy I chose Midwestern. Classes are stressful, but again, what pharmacy school isn't stressful? I'm having a great time, and I'd choose Midwestern again.

    Reply or private message me if you have any comments/questions/concerns about anything about MWU. Thanks, and good luck guys!

    Apparently, this is an old picture. The lab is actually updated, with computers and TVs at each bench. Even our own students were impressed with the lab :p
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  30. amicable7

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    Has anybody realized that the 1st ranked school is in the west coast, the 2nd in the east coast and the 3rd in Midwest? Is there some politics behind these rankings? Were they trying to balance it so that at least each region will be happy?

    As for Illinois the only schools that pharmacists, managers and directors talk about and know of is Midwestern and UIC. I couldn't believe it when most of the pharmacists that I shadowed didn't know about Minnesota for instance, although they are ranked 3rd. If you go to New York, UB (Univ at Buffalo) is their Harvard for pharmacy school, but most pharmacists in California, know nothing about that school, and I bet a few do in Chicago.

    Pharmacy school, is more of an "in-state" affair.

    You must investigate how people, especially pharmacists, perceive the school in the state you will be attending, because you may graduate from UCSF and go to Ohio and be surprised that all the employers have only heard of Ohio state, Cincinnati, Findlay and Toledo, although UCSF is ranked "no.1 in the nation".
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  31. imclarkent

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    hang in there! i hear that they pull a lot of people from the waitlist. from what i read on the 2015 thread, people started to get pulled from the waitlist around march. :)
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    does on-campus housing have rules about having people over?
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    This is straight from the housing handbook:

    "Residents are responsible for the behavior and actions of their guests and should escort their guests at all times while inside University housing facilities. Guests must comply with all Midwestern University on-campus housing policies and procedures. For the safety of all the residents on campus, do not let students who do not live in the building or non-students into the buildings. Student resident hall housing is only for student residents. While it is acceptable to have visitors, visitors should not be full-time occupants of the Residence Halls as that is a violation of the housing contract and disrespectful to one's suitemate. 'Living' is occupying a residence hall room more than 50% of the time when the student resident is present. Students with visitors who 'visit' more than 50% of the time may be asked to move to an area of housing where the housing contract allows for occupation of the unit by more than one resident. The student will be responsible for any cost increases that result from such a move"
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    thanks DSS65!
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    Haha, no problem ma'am/sir :p
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    And apparently, there's a Facebook group for the class of 2016. We have one for the class of 2015, and it's really helpful. I suggest you guys join it to share stories/problems/solutions to whatever you guys are faced with.

    http://www.facebook.com/groups/124911400949137/

    Thanks to jkong for finding the group!
  37. imclarkent

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    lol. its the latter.

    im surprised that there's only 5 people in the facebook group.
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    It's probably because this isn't the first choice for many people, and its still pretty early on the interview season.
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    Thanks dude! It just sucks waiting and not knowing...
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    Just to reiterate what DSS65 said about choosing a pharmacy school best for you. It's very true. Everyone is different and have different expectations and needs. Anonymous posters on SDN cannot decide your career's future.

    My choice was between UNE (Portland, ME) or Midwestern (Chicago, IL) and I can tell you, I am very happy with my choice. I turned down a $5,000/year (for all 4 years) scholarship to go to Midwestern. UNE was not accredited but is well established in their other programs.

    1. Midwestern is accredited and established for 20 years.
    2. Chicago is a large city.
    3. Midwestern has a positive reputation in the community. The community know us and respect the students... whoa, that's cool.
    4. Good curriculum of planning IPPE scheduling. UCSD exposes their students to retail pharmacy in their 4th year. Midwestern exposes us in our 1st year.
    5. Students genuinely care about each other.

    Keep holding on! I don't know if they pull people off along the way or at the end. I got pulled off in the summer when I was already searching for housing because I was set for another school.

    DSS65... I still don't know who you are :)

    A note about the Facebook group... please do not post every little complaint/issue/etc on there. It is an open group so other people not in the group is able to view/read our posts/comments. Limit discussion to what is relevant to the entire pharmacy class. Be extra nice to PS-2s and PS-3s who may or may not also be in the group. BE PROFESSIONAL! Other than that, yes our facebook group is VERY helpful!
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  41. amicable7

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    I have no doubt DSS65 is part of the administrative staff for Midwestern, based on the tone of his/her posts here. Like "Even our own students were impressed with the lab :p" and "We have one for the class of 2015..."
    Anyway, thanks for all your contributions, DSS65.
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    Holy crap, I've never had my words so scrutinized and analyzed before, haha. I'm just trying to help :D I feel so...open and exposed :eek: But you're welcome. I'm just trying to be as helpful as possible.

    Just to reiterate what jkong is saying - as mentioned before, we have our own C/O 2015 Facebook page and there has been some trouble with it. We have had some students making some remarks about exams, homework, quizzes, and professors that weren't exactly the nicest remarks in the world. There was nothing horrible - they just weren't super nice. For example: "I can't believe we're getting tested on all of this when we're given 2 powerpoints 3 days before the exam!" or "I'm gonna give her such a bad evaluation!"

    Although it is nice to share your thoughts and everything, be aware that professors and faculty alike can see this Facebook page. We've even had an instance when a student stated "Our lowest quiz grade is dropped" on the page and then our professor e-mailed our class: "Apparently, there's a rumor going around that your lowest quiz grade is dropped. This is just wishful thinking."

    As jkong said, be professional about it. Don't bad-mouth professors, exams, or other students. And even if you do talk down on something, at least do it in a professional manner. The Facebook page is supposed to be a helpful tool. My suggestion - don't treat it as "just another Facebook page" or someone's wall. But again, it can be fun as well. Our classmates post funny things all the time, and it's definitely a pick-me-up during the middle of mad studying.

    Like I said, that's for me to know and for you to find out :D
  43. jkong

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    lol I'm pretty sure DSS65 is my classmate, I just don't know who it is! :) sneaky you. goodluck on our Physio and Biochem exams. This winter quarter is going to be difficult.
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    Are you guys paid by Midwestern to get on here and make the school sound good or something?
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    I WISH! I shoulda been paid for how much I praised UNE at the time of my acceptance as well...

    I think the feeling is common... you want to feel pride for where you attend school because well... we decided to go here. Call it pride.

    If you want, I guess I could tell you what I dislike about Midwestern...
    1. Internet is sometimes unreliable. I've had the internet die on me more than twice. For all the money we spend on security technology like how our ID scans show up on a screen in the security office, why can't we get super decent internet?
    2. Some professors are not exactly ideal. Let's leave it at that.
    3. My class is forced to "purchase" a new laptop. "Purchase" because it was charged to our student tuition fees which means it's paid by my student loans... so theoretically I'm paying for the laptop plus loan interest. On top of that, my new Mac does not come with Lion OS.
    4. Very dependent on your class, but it seems a few bad apples can ruin it for the rest of us. So you might be lectured on professionalism more than ... a few times.

    Some more positives:
    1. All courses provide lecture notes so textbooks are minimal.
    2. The TAs are other professors.
    3. Parking is free... and there's just enough parking for us, so far.
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    does anyone know if the school is good with giving extensions for putting in the deposit?
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    I just emailed Kerry Mortenson for an extension and she said that they are not granting any deposit extensions. :cry:
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    thanks for the honesty :).. I like the parking thing! I've been to 3 different undergrad universities and the parking sucked at all of them :thumbdown:..

    I'm assuming you live on campus? Have you heard of any negative aspects of living off campus? Is the area nice?
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    yeah, I got the same response from her. shucks. oh well.
  50. jkong

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    Yea the parking surprised me too. I came from an undergrad where an annual student parking pass was $600 and we all had to park in an isolated parking lot and shuttle bus into campus.

    Negative aspects of living off campus...
    - I've heard of tenants paying ~$30 for a parking spot at their apartment?
    Versaille on the Lakes I think has free-for-all parking (guests and tenants) in addition to underground garage parking. I think the underground garage parking is the ~$30, but I could be wrong. Yorktown Apartments has free parking as of right now if you park at McDonald's and shuttle van to the apartment complex (other side of the parking lot).

    From my opinion of the interiors... I'd think Yorktown Apartments are nice. They have a nice newer feel to it. Versaille's interior feels older and the floorboards creak in the hallway; exterior looks nice! Both kitchens are nice and relatively the same size, I think?

    Yorktown Apartments are closer to campus and McDonalds is right outside your door, in addition to Yorktown Mall (equivalent to a Westfield Mall). Versaille is close to Costco, Starbucks, DMK Burgers (YUM) and some scattered areas of interest.

    I do not know about rent amts...sorry.
    Yorktown: http://www.yorktownapthomes.com/
    Versaille: http://www.rmk.com/versailles_at_oakbrook/

    - If it helps, I know more students that live in Versaille than Yorktown.

    - In the winter it gets too cold to just drive to campus.

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