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Hi everyone, first off, yes, I have reviewed prior threads and there is nothing recent on this topic.
I'm considering what to do for fellowship, and was wondering if anyone knew of experts in movement disorders that they'd recommend doing an elective month with, that would really help one's chances of obtaining elite fellowships? I contacted Dr. Jankovic, but Baylor has a moratorium on working with residents from outside institutions. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks as always,
bblue

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Movement disorders I confess I don't know much about. I certainly know of Jankovic (whom you've already investigated), and while interviewing five years ago, recall that UAB in Alabama had a strong emphasis on movement disorders.
 
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Thank you both for the info! Does anyone have any input on NYU's program?
 
Hi everyone, first off, yes, I have reviewed prior threads and there is nothing recent on this topic.
I'm considering what to do for fellowship, and was wondering if anyone knew of experts in movement disorders that they'd recommend doing an elective month with, that would really help one's chances of obtaining elite fellowships? I contacted Dr. Jankovic, but Baylor has a moratorium on working with residents from outside institutions. Any other suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks as always,
bblue

I am a Pennsylvania native. So, from what I understood from insiders, playing football on the Penn State team under Paterno was a bragging right, but really Paterno was like the Queen of England. He showed up for the games and live through his legacy, never really interacted much with the players or actually coached much.

Now what does that have to do with your question? Well apparently, Jankovic is much the same way (or so I have been told, cannot verify that). So if you do a fellowship at Baylor, then you can reserve the bragging right of training under Jankovic at Baylor and that is about all.


I went to some courses given by the guys at Emory and I thought they were some great guys!! Very interactive and devoted to teaching. Very approachable!! Can't say for sure if they are a "well known program" or not.

Back in my residency days, I had some interactions with Ali Samii at University of Washington. He seemed like a really nice guy to talk to and again, very approachable. I also talked to one of his former fellows, who is now on staff there, and he was very much into his program. From what I could gather, the UW program is pretty solid if you want to do some projects and get some research out there.

I am not a movement disorders specialist, but I think that if I was, I would want a program that teaches good management of DBS and Botox, but that is just me. I think that's what it some down to at the end of the day, what are YOUR preference and what do YOU want out of a program: research heavy? teaching heavy? procedure heavy? As well all know, just like residency, not all programs are the same and they all have their own strengths and weaknesses.
 
NYUs fellowship is new. It's a one year clinical fellowship and their first fellow is starting this summer so nobody is going to be able to tell you much. They seem to be building a strong DBS program.

"Experts" in the new york area:
Beth Israel NY - Bressman
Mount Sinai - Frucht
Columbia - Fahn, although he is apparently stepping down after this year
 
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Bustbones, I heard the same thing about Jankovic from an attending at my institution ;)
I'm interested in procedures, teaching, and research, in that order. Not because of the money, but I think you can make the biggest difference doing DBS, and there seems to be a lack of overall representation in the field that makes teaching and research interesting to me.
Acherona, thank you for the heads up! I'd like to spend some time in NYC and there seem to be some great programs there. Appreciate the input
 
I am currently doing a rotation in Movement Disorders at one of the above institutions, and I am definitely falling in love with the field...I was hoping to renew this thread as I'm now positive I'll be applying for a fellowship in this field, and wanted to know if anyone else had ideas about top programs they'd recommend? A "Top 3" would be great, but any information anyone has on any program would also be appreciated!
 
I am currently doing a rotation in Movement Disorders at one of the above institutions, and I am definitely falling in love with the field...I was hoping to renew this thread as I'm now positive I'll be applying for a fellowship in this field, and wanted to know if anyone else had ideas about top programs they'd recommend? A "Top 3" would be great, but any information anyone has on any program would also be appreciated!

Hi bblue

Do you mind sharing your interview experiences and opinions on movement disorders' programs? You could PM me if you prefer that. I'm looking to apply to movement disorders too and have no geographical restrictions. I am keen on a an academic program.
Thanks!
 
Just to correct something I apparently wrote a few years ago...Fahn is no longer the division head at Columbia but is still very active seeing patients with fellows and with research, and I doubt he will retire for some time.

Keep in mind that programs change a lot from year to year, so going to the interview and judging for yourself is your best bet.
 
Just to correct something I apparently wrote a few years ago...Fahn is no longer the division head at Columbia but is still very active seeing patients with fellows and with research, and I doubt he will retire for some time.

Keep in mind that programs change a lot from year to year, so going to the interview and judging for yourself is your best bet.
Thanks Acherona.. That's what I thought too.. Some of the newer programs such as U of M have interesting new faculty doing great work whereas UPenn looks a bit bleak. I've heard some of their faculty left. Hopkins recently acquired a couple of new faculty members too. Guess the best thing to do is to interview and see.
I'm assuming you finished your fellowship and are practicing now. Do some programs have a more academic outcome (of their fellows) than others? And what decides this? (Apart from individual variations of course). Thanks for your input.
 
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Movement disorders is a pretty academic field in general. The main thing is whether the fellowship is one or more years, and how much time fellows have to do research. Most academic places now have a "clinician-educator" track which does not require much research and I think any movement disorders fellowship would prepare you for that. It probably also helps to do try to do your fellowship in the same city/region where you want to practice to maximize any advantage from networking.
 
I am gearing up for movement disorders fellowship application this academic year, and looking at a clinically oriented fellowship. Would be great if someone here could shed light on the following:
1. Do MDS programs tend to give a lot of weight to research background of the candidates, given that almost every program is very academic ?
2. We don't have a movement disorders team at our program currently and I will be doing an away elective for this within the state. Is this going to be a hurdle to getting into a good program ?
3. From what I could gather from the recent MDS International Congress (2015) and a few other conferences, UAB (Alabama) and Emory (Atlanta) have become my favourites, especially given the number of young-ish attendings who seem to be very much into teaching as well as clinical trials and translational research (something I would like to model myself). I also am impressed by Mike Okun's (Gainesville, Florida) work and lectures in general. Any suggestions regarding other similar programs ?
4. What is the typical timeline for these applications ? My searches suggest that applications start in April, interviews are around June/July and match is around September.
5. Do programs tend to offer positions largely through match or are they mostly offered in person ?

Thanks in advance!
 
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Some general updates on Movement Disorders Interview and Match Season, 2016 (for Fellowship in AY 2017):

The SFMatch is taking over the Movt Dsr application process entirely. This is a huge upgrade from its past role as a "ranking and matching-only" site. This ensures a uniform application (Single CAS Online Application Form, 3LORs, CV), and also a uniform start time/deadline and match. I assume that the Personal Statement part (that all programs require) is going to be embedded within the CAS Online Application Form. They require the materials to be sent to the SF Match team in a single package (CV, sealed LORs etc) whence it will be scanned and distributed like the ERAS style applications.

A $60 fee for the first 10 programs, a $10/program for the next 10, a $15/program for the 3rd set of 1o and so forth is charged

Registration with the SF Match starts on 1 April.
Application deadline: May 16 (although programs I contacted directly, have indicated different deadlines).
Rankl ist deadline: Sept 8
Match Day: Sep 19

There seems to be some confusion among programs regarding this whole arrangement, as many that I contacted early Dec 2015 had not anticipated that the SF Match would take over application process as well. Many of them indicated sending application directly. Some of them, like Rush and Cleveland have their own application forms that are still available on their fellowship webpages. Hopefully the experiment won't mess up this year's application process.

Ref: https://www.sfmatch.org/PDFFilesDis...ent_Disorders_Fellowship_CAS_Instructions.pdf
 
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Some general updates on Movement Disorders Interview and Match Season, 2016 (for Fellowship in AY 2017):

The SFMatch is taking over the Movt Dsr application process entirely. This is a huge upgrade from its past role as a "ranking and matching-only" site. This ensures a uniform application (Single CAS Online Application Form, 3LORs, CV), and also a uniform start time/deadline and match. I assume that the Personal Statement part (that all programs require) is going to be embedded within the CAS Online Application Form. They require the materials to be sent to the SF Match team in a single package (CV, sealed LORs etc) whence it will be scanned and distributed like the ERAS style applications.

A $60 fee for the first 10 programs, a $10/program for the next 10, a $15/program for the 3rd set of 1o and so forth is charged

Registration with the SF Match starts on 1 April.
Application deadline: May 16 (although programs I contacted directly, have indicated different deadlines).
Rankl ist deadline: Sept 8
Match Day: Sep 19

There seems to be some confusion among programs regarding this whole arrangement, as many that I contacted early Dec 2015 had not anticipated that the SF Match would take over application process as well. Many of them indicated sending application directly. Some of them, like Rush and Cleveland have their own application forms that are still available on their fellowship webpages. Hopefully the experiment won't mess up this year's application process.

Ref: https://www.sfmatch.org/PDFFilesDis...ent_Disorders_Fellowship_CAS_Instructions.pdf
Thanks for sharing. Please keep this thread updated as you can.
 
Any updates here? Thanks!


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Would be interested in hearing what people think about programs in the SE, especially Duke, UVa, Emory, Wake Forest.
 
Would be interested in hearing what people think about programs in the SE, especially Duke, UVa, Emory, Wake Forest.

I know that Emory and Duke have strong programs. I don't know much about UVa or Wake Forest. I'm under the impression that Emory has more research resources. Of course, there are different catchment areas for patient referrals.

Are you interested in research?
 
I know that Emory and Duke have strong programs. I don't know much about UVa or Wake Forest. I'm under the impression that Emory has more research resources. Of course, there are different catchment areas for patient referrals.

Are you interested in research?

I am interested in a research oriented program. While my interest has been in epidemiology, I'm now exploring imaging and connectivity and find it to be fascinating. Any insight as to programs which are strong in resources for the same, while not compromising on clinical training?

I saw a couple of programs with one half day clinic per week. I would prefer a little more balance.

Thanks!


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Few things that I have noticed.
1. Movement fellowships, being non ACGME are very flexible. Most programs will tailor the fellowship according to what you are interested in including patient care, clinical research, bench research.
2. Very few are clinically heavy, and the clinic time varies from 2 half days in clinic to maximum 5 half days, with additional half days for botulinum, DBS and OR. This was pretty consistent among programs. And I don't think the volume of cases ( patients, Botulinum or DBS) is much different among the top 15-20 places to make a difference in your learning.
3. It is surprising how further sub specialized this field has become, with people focussing on individual disorders. It seems like if you are going to an academic place, more often than not you will have to find your own niche in MD.
4. The fellowship is still not very competitive, but some programs definitely prefer specific set of interests/future goals over others.
5. The departments are changing fast everywhere. Some places are expanding and some are breaking up. Even between the time you match and the time you will start things can become drastically different.
I would say based on all above criteria, few overall good programs right now in my biased opinion are UF, UCSF, Emory, Vandy, Mt Sinai, OHSU, Stanford, Upenn.
NYU, BIDMC, Baylor, UT, UCSD, Northwestern, Rochester, Duke, UAb are all close enough to be unable to call one better than the other (may be one is better than the other in some specifics). Columbia, Rush, Beth Israel have been great programs in the past, but they are changing fast so can't be sure. Other good programs would be Yale, Mayo ,Cleveland, Case-western, JHU but their location kills them a bit. Harvard is mostly bench research. Medical college Georgia(Sethi), Albany(Molho) are decent training programs. Im not sure about others but atleast UPMC, Cincinnati, Miami, Colorado, NINDS, LomaLinda, USC all seem like good programs on paper.
5. Ultimately, my advice is, choose a place mostly based on your interest area (if geographically not restricted) and if that place has an expert in what you want to pursue and how involved that person would be in training and mentoring you.
 
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Interview trail Impressions Part -1

Since I still am interviewing, and the ROL deadline is only in Sept, I am going to post only a generic impression in this segment. I will post a more detailed impression of individual programs in part 2 in September after I have matched (playing it safe :D).

The Era of Great Personalities is Over, Move On:

The field has been heavily influenced by giants from Fahn to Delong to Jancovic, but remember they are all stepping down or about to step down. After interacting with fellows in such "big name" places, my impression is that these stalwarts are now almost namesake, and a one-to-one apprenticeship has become meaningless both because of the hyperspecialization that has engulfed the field and because these first generation giants are cutting back their clinic times everywhere. So, my aim this season was to look for second or third generation clinicians who are potentially going to grow into the next Fahn or next Delong.

But there is a catch here. There are already such upcoming stars, but due to the fragmentation of the field, they are not the "all-rounders" you would expect. Most centers with 4-5 Attendings, have someone doing exclusively DBS, someone running an HD clinic and someone helming the Ataxia clinic/research and so forth. Frucht, Factor, Bressman, Louis, Jinnah, Okun, Litvan, Mari, Ramdani, Stover, Walker, Mills, Espay, Changizi, are all examples of such a generation. They all have their niche areas of interests. Which means, you may need more than one mentor.

The Fellowship Is What You Make Out of It:

The absence of ACGME regulations means, only those programs that have a certain clinical volume can expect to stay in the game of offering fellowships. In that sense Movement Disorders is a blessed field. Any place is a good place to match. So what is the difference?

First year of the fellowship is pretty standard everywhere. Clinically intensive. Anywhere between 2-3 half day clinics a week, with OR time, rotations among Ataxia clinics, HD clinics, Tourette clinics etc. If you are keen on building a solid clinical base (especially intending to go into private/hospital practice), look for two types of diversity -- (1) number of hyperspecialized clinics within the division and (2) ethnic/age diversity among your patients. Some big metro programs and big referral centers have a particular advantage in the latter; they get all kinds of referrals, even international referrals, and sometimes faculty consultation from outside USA even (yes, truly global!). I am impressed by such things, being an international graduate with work experience from two other countries.

Most programs this year have been tactful enough to say to their candidates that the second year is built around the fellow's needs. That said, there are programs that haven't woken up from their twentieth century slumber and wants the second year to be absolutely a research endeavor. I prefer the former, with an opportunity for clinical subspecialization and research on the side. Many programs would suggest taking Masters courses for research training (Grant writing, Statistics etc). If you have a clear idea as to what you want out of this career, you are lucky in that you can straightaway tell the program to design the second year around your needs. Programs seem to like people with a plan - even if an overly ambitious or unrealistically optimistic one! Many fellows I met on the trail seemed to have had dithered and postponed making this decision until late in their first year, and programs seem to have taken note of this. I could read between the lines from many directors that they want you to not make that mistake. So plan your career ahead.


Subspecialization Is the Future:

Any program will train you in the basics of PD, manage Atypical Parkinsonisms, manage HD, tinker with DBS programming, play with meds for basic psychiatric issues common to our group of pts, and teach you BoNT injections for dystonia. So if you are set for private practice in a non academic center, choose your program based on the city you want to live or the proximity to your partner's workplace or whatever that is. But if you are planning to establish an academic career (any teaching center not necessarily a research center), and want to be do something very specific like DBS, or Gait or Tremor, then find a program that has a suitable mentor for you. Unfortunately this means interviewing at many places to find that person who will inspire you. Or go to conferences and figure out who is who and if they are approachable or offer such mentorship. This also will mean that you can not be very picky about the city your training center is located.

That is it for now. Part -2 on specific interview experience, will be updated later in September.
 
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With the match results out today, anyone care to provide more details on programs? Thank you and congratulations!


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It was an interesting match with some good places like Upenn, Yale , NINDS, UCSD and Cincy not matching completely and a lot of average programs matched. Im not sure how that happened but seems like location was a big factor for most people who applied.
Also, I feel that above programs didn't rank/invite the applicants whose goals/aspirations didn't meet theirs and they decided to rather go unmatched than ranking such candidates, even if they were good applicants on paper.
Thats partly because movement fellowships are apprenticeship and research based and unlike stroke and epilepsy, fellows don't really help with/share a lot of work with the attendings; esp at bigger places. So it matters less to them if there is a fellow or not. But obviously most of the top programs matched and applicants matched into their 1st or 2nd choices. Looking at the stats , it seems like about 12 people registered and didn't finalise any rank lists ( may be didn't get any interviews or picked up out of match positions) and 6 didn't match.
Also initially it felt like a lot of people were applying for this fellowship with some programs interviewing 16 people for 2 spots !. But in final stats its the same no. as past few years.
 
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Here is the full match report to date, from SFMATCH.

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UNMATCHED PROGRAMS, advertised for positions in 2017:

Augusta - Kapil Sethi
Yale - Elan Louis
Upenn - Wilkinson
UCSD - Irene Litvan
NINDS - Mark Hallett
U Cincinnati - Duker
Albany MC - Molho
U of Rochester - Richard
UPMC, Pittsburg - Greenamyre
U of Iowa - Ergun Uc
U of Kentucky - John Slevin
Ochsner New Orleans - Lea
 
Interview trail Impressions Part -2

In no particular order, I will present a summary of some, hopefully, useful info on some programs I dug into and/or interviewed at. A lot changes every year and much of this info is easily going to be irrelevant next year. Senior faculty stepping down, no funding for enough positions, too many fellows accepted in one year forcing programs to skip a year of acceptance etc. If you are interested in the program, you're strongly encouraged to do your own search.

Emory, Atlanta, Georgia:
Positions offered: 1-2 positions alternating every year depending on funding. Had only 1 position open for match 2017.
Duration: 2 year fellowship with second year concentrating on projects.
Specialty clinics: PD, PD+ syndromes, Tics and Tourette + ADHD, Ataxia clinic, Dystonia clinic, BoNT clinic, DBS presurg evals
Research: A few on-going clinical trials constitutes much of clinical research. Remainder of lab research is headed by Dr Alexander and Dr Wichman. Fellows seem interested in the motion analysis lab run by Dr Alexander.
Impression: A very good program with very large volume of patients. 12-14 Attendings in the clinic with 4 days of full day clinics. All clinics are in one location, slightly north of downtown Atlanta, close to the Emory campus. Being one of the few major referrals of the southeastern region ensures good volume of BoNT and DBS. Dr Delong, who ran the pre-DBS evaluations is stepping down and they are looking for replacements (afaik). Dr Factor, Dr Juncos and Dr Jinnah are great clinicians to learn from. Quite a few younger attendings are grads of the same program. Y1 is clinic heavy with OR times for those who are interested in DBS. Occasionally you are consulted from inpatient side (day consults only). When on-call, the pages are from out-patient call center. No nights, no weekend calls. Y2 is "build-your-own schedule" largely with focus on project(s). The faculty from UAB and Augusta (Sethi et al) almost always collaborate for conferences in the region. The young neurologist MDS conference for neuro residents is an example. Atlanta is a great city if you have plenty of podcast subscriptions to listen to while waiting for the traffic in I-75/85 to move.
 
UAB, Birmingham, Alabama:
Positions offered: 1 for match 2017.
Duration: 2 years, clinical + research.
Specialty clinics: PD, PD+ syndromes, HD, Ataxia clinic, Dystonia clinic, BoNT clinic, DBS presurg evals
Research: Many options available including ataxia genetics, HD, neuroradiology, DBS research. Several well established labs.
Impression: A large program with an impressive volume of patients. The Neurology Chair (Dr Standaert) being a movement person probably tips the scale towards the division! 10-11 Attendings to run clinics. Its DBS volumes are perhaps the country's largest (about 150 / year acc to what they said; average numbers elsewhere is 45-50) and Dr Harrison Walker is a phenomenal. Other people to mention are Dr Victor Sung (HD), Dr Yacoubian (Ataxia), Dr Skidmore (Neuroradiology Research, PD and AD). The city appeared to be a small and actively gentrified city with something for every taste. The UAB hospital takes up quite a chunk of the center-city blocks and is massive. The Hospital runs its own hotel and you get to stay there on the eve of the interview.

Yale, New Haven, Connecticut:
Positions offered: 1 for match 2017.
Duration: 2 years, clinical + research.
Specialty clinics: PD, Essential Tremor, HD, Ataxia clinic, Dystonia clinic, BoNT clinic, DBS presurg evals, Pediatric movement d/s, REM BD and other movement issues in sleep
Research: Dr Elan Louis, division director is a big name in tremor, On going trials in Sleep. There is a large number of research coordinators to help out with research.
Impression: This appeared to be a mid-sized program in terms of pt volume and clinical staff. With Elan Louis recently assuming the leadership of the program, it is expanding. Currently ~ 7 attendings, including a pediatric movement specialist (Dr Bamford). Dr Amar Patel is a Mt Sinai-trained DBS guy. New Haven is beautiful and the hospital is close to the Port which is amazing. But I had a feeling that the program will be sought more by candidates who have a geographic preference to the extreme east coast.
 
Mount Sinai - Icahn School, New York:
Positions offered: 1 for match 2017.
Duration: 2 years, clinical + research.
Specialty clinics: PD, PD+ Syndromes, DBS presurg evals, Dystonia, BoNT
Research: Plenty of options available. All attendings seemed to be clinically as well as academically engaged.
Impression: Although clinical staff strength is about 6-7, the attendings are all well-known in the field. Dr Frucht is a big name in Dystonia, Dr Greene is a great clinician, Dr Walker is an internationally known figure in choreiform disorders and neurodegeneration in general, attached to the VA as well as this program. Dr Ramdhani is the DBS person. Dr Lubarr is a recent recruit and is a pediatric movement person. The city - it's New York. I have have mixed feelings about the location, so no comments:)

UCSD, San Diego, California:
Positions offered: 1 for match 2017.
Duration: 2 years, clinical + research.
Specialty clinics: PD,PD+ Syndromes, DBS presurg evals, BoNT
Research: Dr Irene Litvan, fellowship director is a big name in Atypical parkinsonism. Several trials on drug therapy going on.
Impression: This appeared to be a small program in terms of clinical staff. Active attendings are about 3-4. Dr Fatta Nahab is a renowned figure in neuroimaging in Movement. Dr Lessig is at the VA and at UCSD. The DBS Neurosurgeon Dr Dave Barba absolutely embodies the west coast in his coolness and his own research going on. San Diego is perhaps the chillest of the cities I have interviewed this season. The program however seems to attract fellows with geographic preference to west coast.
 
Johns Hopkins, Baltimore, Maryland:
Positions offered: 1 for match 2017, but they added 1 more position later outside the match.
Duration: 2 years, clinical + research.
Specialty clinics: PD (Dr Mari), PD+ Syndromes, DBS presurg evals, BoNT, Dystonia, Ataxia (Drs Rosenthal and David Zee), HD (run by Psychiatry and Peds Neuro attendings), Tics and repetitive behaviors (run by child psychiatry)
Research: 20+ named trials in movement disorders, massive research operation both in neuroscience and clinical/translational, Udall Center for Excellence. DBS-related research focuses on cognition pre and post DBS.
Impression: Clinic structure at Hopkins is slightly different from many other programs as specialists from other services outside the Division of Movement D/s run a lot of of these clinics. Psych, Child Psych and Ped Neuro manages most of HD, Tics/Tourettes etc. Dr David Zee, the Neurophthal guru runs an Ataxia clinic and so forth. Clinic structure in Y1 consists of 5 half-day clinics/week, one admin day, rest are split among research time and education time. You will be on inpatient consults for movement d/s every 2 months during which you may get consulted on 1-2 pts per week that you see in the AM and staff with attending in the afternoon (No nights, no on-calls). There is a 4-bed psych unit where pts with dopa dysregulation or other issues requiring med adjustments are admitted under Psychiatry and you get consulted if needed. Y2 is intended for research project(s) only but most fellows build a clinic schedule (1-2 half day clinics/ week or OR time) around this to focus on a niche area (eg., HD, intraoperative DBS etc). DBS volume is decent, 45-50 DBS per year. The quarterly Maryland-Washington Regional Movement Disorders conferences in the DC-Baltimore area where U of Maryland, Georgetown U, Hopkins and NINDs collaborate are good to attend and network. The city - it's Baltimore. Interview invites should come with bullet-proof vests, I guess :) Just kidding. It's a nice town. An DC is just an hour away.
 
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Some more general impressions:

The Interviews:
I personally had not much in the way of geographic preference, hence interviewed quite widely. One thing I noticed was, very few places take the effort to give the candidates a good sense of what the clinics are like and what the schedule is. UAB director had an excel sheet to show me and Hopkins had a printed sheet with Y1 Clinic Structure. These were really helpful and brings out the focus of the program. Very few programs offered the chance to talk to their *senior* fellows to see what they like about the program and where they are going, etc. A few programs had their first year fellows around, but in July, they know as much as you have learned from their website. Also, the follow-ups from programs were pretty poor in general. Not sure if programs were generally wary of overstepping their Sfmatch-contracts or if they were too cocky to bother about what the candidates ranked them at.

The Match:
The price and the services are okay. The information on the website provided by the programs is very minimal and sometimes incorrect. Eg., UCSF does not accept ECFMG candidates. The number of positions offered changes sometimes. Also information about programs that withdraw from the match half-way through (Eg., Baylor this year pulled out), are not sent out to the candidates. The 3-letter limitation on LORs is unfortunate. I had to email the additional letters directly through my residency coordinator to maintain confidentiality of the letters. The upload service is also limited because the actual letters are to be sent to SFMatch to be uploaded, unlike ERAS. Also, I think they ought to move this match up to the end of PGY3 (April - May). Judging by the post-match stats and unmatched programs, the match really did what it was designed originally for - prevent large programs from snatching away candidates from smaller programs :)


PS: I have requested a friend to send some her reviews of the places (1-year clinical only programs) she interviewed this season and hope to post them here later.
 
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Neurology resident here - long time reader, first time commenter, planning on going into movement. Subthalamus: thanks for the helpful posts. For folks on the trail, what are people's impressions of the movement disorders fellowship at Wash U? from the outside it seems to have excellent subspecialty representation, great research, large catchment, nice hospital. And yet when people make lists (for what those are worth) I tend not to see Wash U included.
 
What are salaries like in this field? Do those who do intraoperative DBS making higher salaries? Will this continue to be needed as I know these surgeries can be performed with intraoperative MRI instead of the electrophys monitoring....also do movement disorder programs take psychiatry applicants or only neurology applicants?
 
Some more general impressions:

The Interviews:
I personally had not much in the way of geographic preference, hence interviewed quite widely. One thing I noticed was, very few places take the effort to give the candidates a good sense of what the clinics are like and what the schedule is. UAB director had an excel sheet to show me and Hopkins had a printed sheet with Y1 Clinic Structure. These were really helpful and brings out the focus of the program. Very few programs offered the chance to talk to their *senior* fellows to see what they like about the program and where they are going, etc. A few programs had their first year fellows around, but in July, they know as much as you have learned from their website. Also, the follow-ups from programs were pretty poor in general. Not sure if programs were generally wary of overstepping their Sfmatch-contracts or if they were too cocky to bother about what the candidates ranked them at.

The Match:
The price and the services are okay. The information on the website provided by the programs is very minimal and sometimes incorrect. Eg., UCSF does not accept ECFMG candidates. The number of positions offered changes sometimes. Also information about programs that withdraw from the match half-way through (Eg., Baylor this year pulled out), are not sent out to the candidates. The 3-letter limitation on LORs is unfortunate. I had to email the additional letters directly through my residency coordinator to maintain confidentiality of the letters. The upload service is also limited because the actual letters are to be sent to SFMatch to be uploaded, unlike ERAS. Also, I think they ought to move this match up to the end of PGY3 (April - May). Judging by the post-match stats and unmatched programs, the match really did what it was designed originally for - prevent large programs from snatching away candidates from smaller programs :)


PS: I have requested a friend to send some her reviews of the places (1-year clinical only programs) she interviewed this season and hope to post them here later.

1 year clinical programs. which are they?

I am more interested in making a practice in a group practice with 60% general neurology + 40% movement disorder (DBS programming, botox, etc). with hope of salary around 250 k
 
Also, my current residency program site, does not offer movement disorder fellowship. But I believe we have the volume and we have had MDS fellowship decades ago.

How can I make a fellowship program in my program?
 
There are three kind of movement programs:

1. One year clinical programs
2. One year program with an (?expected) option to apply for a second year through funding mechanism
3. 2 year programs with protected research time

I would suggest look at the aan list of fellowships where programs list the duration of their fellowship. Most webpages have that info too.


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