MWU AZ vs NYU

[metsfan692]

Really torn between the two.. Can anyone give me their 2 cents on this

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[asne0407]

I am a D2 at MWU-AZ and honestly, I love MWU. The price is obviously a concern, but we really get our money's worth here, and the price is pretty comparable to many other private schools. The teachers are so helpful and work on an open door policy so you can always go to them with questions and they are more than willing to help you until you understand it. I have never had an intimidating experience with a teacher because they all treat us like their colleagues. Some teachers come in early to SIM around 6AM to help students and stay late after to help as well. They really put our needs before their own.

The students here are also great! Everyone is always willing to help each other and mostly everyone studies together in groups or gives each other tips and advice on certain topics. I have never felt alone on anything because I always have fellow students to help me through things.

We start doing perio rotations, oral surgery rotations, radiology rotations, among many others over at the clinic fall of second year and it is so nice to get the first part of the boards out of the way after the first year.

If you come here you can be sure that you will get more than enough clinical experience to begin practicing right after graduation. Especially because we don't have any specific graduation requirements, you will have plenty of experience in all aspects of clinic (extractions, crown preps, CADCAM (Cerec and E4D), Endo, and IMPLANTS, among many others! And working in pairs is a bonus, we get work done much faster which is better for the patient and gets you used to having an assistant. Dentistry really is a career based on teamwork and they teach that very early on.

Let me know if you have any questions!!

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P.S. The cost of living in AZ is WAYYYY cheaper than NY....that should be a big factor. I moved from the bay area CA and it has made a huge difference going from upwards of $2300/month to $850/month.

 

[debussey]

I'm a 4th year at MWU AZ and with less than 6 months left to graduate, I'm can confidently say I have loved my experience here. Rumor mill is that NYU has way more students, crowded, you fight for patients/chairs and get less experience while we have more patients than we can deal with here at MWU AZ. You get tons of different experience as stated above and you're in clinic 4.5 days a week which is not what you get at most other schools. As for implants, you get to restore all of them but once in a super-dee-duper rare/almost never blue moon, they will let you place them. Faculty, students and staff are great at MWU AZ. You take boards after your first year (and get the whole summer off to study for and take them) at AZ. Not sure about timeline for NYU but they did have a 100% boards pass rate for Part 1 recently (while AZ boasts like 95% or something like that) so that's a bonus for them! Not from AZ and as much as I love NYC, it's been great exploring and experiencing the west coast during dental school. Cali and Vegas are close and hiking in AZ is awesome.

 

[BetaHelix]

These schools are virtually polar opposite. I havent been to MWU-AZ but have heard great things. NYU is a massive program and you'll pay through the nose on living expenses.

 

[toothdriller2k17]

begin random rant:

D3 at NYU here. i love the clinical experience here, one of the best in the country. we see patients on average 4-5 days a week (every other Fri. we have off). depending on your schedule, you are in clinic for a little over 4 hour sessions M-Thu, and every other Fri is 8:30-4. there are many rotations (8am-8pm) that you have to go on as well, i.e. oral surgery, where you'll be doing some really cool stuff...perio, peds, etc. you get a lot of variety of cases, it's pretty crazy. not to mention the hours here are pretty extensive as you can see so you do A LOT.

yes there are a lot of people, no you won't be turned away because you can't get a chair. there are many, many chairs at the school. you can do off-sessions as well where you can come in to see a patient during your non scheduled hours.

we have every single specialty in house and on clinic floors. have a patient with a suspicious lesion? for instance, you can refer to oral medicine/pathology. doing a root canal and find yourself in a bind? endodontics faculty right there.

implants-you have implant overdenture and implant crown requirements here. if you're honors in perio, you can place them.

research-you can get paid and get credit for doing research. NIH funding is huge here. they'll fly you out to conferences and the whole 9

the list goes on and on. if you want to learn dentistry NYU is a great place to come to. we have a lot of established faces and techniques in the field..definitely something unique that other schools can't relate to. one thing though, nothing will be handed to you here. if you take advantage of the resources you will learn a whole lot.

the only cons i can think of relative to midwestern from these posts: the fact that we don't have assistants, and living costs are lower

 

[metsfan692]

These schools are virtually polar opposite.

can you expand on this

 

[BetaHelix]

can you expand on this

One of them is dead center in the largest city in the US. Ultra urban living. This would be a huge adjustment for people that aren't from large inner-city atmospheres. Costs of living are far above national average making it one of the most expencive places in the country to live. NYU has the largest class size of any dental school by a good margin. NYU has also been around a long time and has a lot of name recognition. Extremely diverse patient population is a big plus. Very cold winters. Many residents may limit your overall exposure to specialties. Could be distracting going to dental school is such an urban massive environment where everything you could ever want or do is within walking distance.

Midwestern AZ is in a much smaller city and is in the outskirts. It's in a newer area with new construction. A new community area. Much more affordable living. Hot summers and mild winters. Little if any snow less a light dusting. Much more relaxed living. You can have your own car etc. More spacious much less busy. School is new and doesn't have the name recognition as NYU. Much smaller class size. Pobably less diverse patient pool. Probably far less total patients than NYU. No residency at MWU so you'll get more hands on experience to more complex cases. Going by the smaller class size you'll probably get more close instruction from faculty.

Arizona to Manhattan New York City.... Apples to rocket ships

 

[toothdriller2k17]

One of them is dead center in the largest city in the US. Ultra urban living. This would be a huge adjustment for people that aren't from large inner-city atmospheres. Costs of living are far above national average making it one of the most expencive places in the country to live. NYU has the largest class size of any dental school by a good margin. NYU has also been around a long time and has a lot of name recognition. Extremely diverse patient population is a big plus. Very cold winters. Many residents may limit your overall exposure to specialties. Could be distracting going to dental school is such an urban massive environment where everything you could ever want or do is within walking distance.

Midwestern AZ is in a much smaller city and is in the outskirts. It's in a newer area with new construction. A new community area. Much more affordable living. Hot summers and mild winters. Little if any snow less a light dusting. Much more relaxed living. You can have your own car etc. More spacious much less busy. School is new and doesn't have the name recognition as NYU. Much smaller class size. Pobably less diverse patient pool. Probably far less total patients than NYU. No residency at MWU so you'll get more hands on experience to more complex cases. Going by the smaller class size you'll probably get more close instruction from faculty.

Arizona to Manhattan New York City.... Apples to rocket ships

that's a blessing and a curse. while i can see it being advantageous of not having in house specialties...if something is clearly out of the scope of general dentistry what do you do? do you waste chair time trying to solve the problem?

in the real world, it's simple. you realize what you can do and what you can't do and refer out accordingly. time is money, and in my opinion having specialties at your disposable has many more pros than cons

 

[jeffity]

that's a blessing and a curse. while i can see it being advantageous of not having in house specialties...if something is clearly out of the scope of general dentistry what do you do? do you waste chair time trying to solve the problem?

in the real world, it's simple. you realize what you can do and what you can't do and refer out accordingly. time is money, and in my opinion having specialties at your disposable has many more pros than cons

A better way to phrase it, would be that there are no residents/official residency programs. But there are specialists. So when we need to work with the specialists, it's us working with them directly...not having a case taken away from us. So yes, they're at our disposal. When something is out of scope, we simply set up a consult with the specialists.

 

[DentistJoon]

depends the type person you are and where you will excel... if you like smaller class sizes and working closely with professors choose midwestern

 

[jokersmiles]

whether or not NYU has high living expenses is not a factor when comparing it to MWU

NYU = $488,743

MWU = $483,173

these include housing and both schools are equally expensive overall, I would choose NYU.

http://dental.nyu.edu/academicprograms/dds-program/tuition.html

https://www.midwestern.edu/Documents/Financial Aid documents/COA Forms/2015-16 AZ/Dental _ AZ 1516 final.pdf