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It really is only a matter of time before they can gain licensure in all 50 states.
And no MCAT! Where do we all apply?!
And no MCAT! Where do we all apply?!
It really is only a matter of time before they can gain licensure in all 50 states.
And no MCAT! Where do we all apply?!
ensuring that they have a very collaborative environment.
2. To be fair, here is the curriculum:
Biochemistry
Human Physiology
Histology
Anatomy
Macro- and Microbiology
Immunology
Human Pathology
Neuroscience
Pharmacology
Clinical Nutrition
Botanical Medicine
Homeopathy
Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine
Lifestyle Counseling
Massage
Physical Medicine
Hydrotherapy
4)Hydrotherapy works by causing blood vessels to pump blood, allowing superior blood flow and removal of toxins from unhealthy tissues.
Lulz. What was the thing about CO2 building up in the blood and causing damage? Why would there be CO2 buildup unless you were exercising vigorously or decided to stop breathing, which you wouldn't do if you were sick (hopefully).
But if we're being honest, some of it did sound sort like osteopathic medicine ... allowing the body to heal itself, structure affects function, etc.
Happens during respiratory acidosis
Das the truf but the lady was saying hydrotherapy should be used for chronic conditions. Perhaps a medical student can comment on the efficacy of using hot and cold water to vasodilate and vasoconstrict, respectively, one's blood vessels, and how that would affect one's overall health.
By having no MCAT, they weed out the gunners, ensuring that they have a very collaborative environment.
MDs are obsolete and extremely limited?? Really?!?
What I don't get, is after all those biochemistry, anatomy, physiology, pathology, histology classes etc, the people taking them can then sit there and listen to how diet can cure cancer AND BELIEVE IT.
There is such a huge cognitive disconnect, I must be missing something.
Hey, naturopathic remedies are NATURAL. What more do you need to know? They aren't evil, toxic, chemicals, made in a lab somewhere! They are NATURAL substances, how could they NOT be better than the drugs MD's push?Didn't you hear that tumors have insulin receptors on 'em? This proves that sugar causes cancer. This also proves that if you feed someone wolfsbane or something with sugar, it will kill the tumor.
Obviously you haven't taken as much basic science as an ND.
I left Bastyr's ND program. Trust me. Its NOT the same.
I'd rather see a nurse practioner.
same, although i had an experience where I went to see a np and she freaked out because i came out positive for TB test. i tried to explain to her that people who were born abroad are often vaccinated for TB, but she didn't seem to understand and kept pushing that i take a year long medicine for it. so i switched to a real doc
she didn't go for the chest xray after a positive PPD? that is kinda standard....
she didn't go for the chest xray after a positive PPD? that is kinda standard....
lol this coincides very nicely with the NP thread
she just didn't know these things... really even the regular nurses know these simple things.. i know she might have been just off that day or just one bad seed but it really made me realize that i will not go see np or pa as my pcp.. she even called me to try to convince me to go on the meds and i had to politely refuseit and she thought i was the one being all crazy
there is anti np thread as well?
Incorrect. Enough said.
Incorrect. Enough said.
Haaaaaa. Just had a dream about this. Posted about it in pre-osteo.
I'm actually surprised they focused their attack at MD curriculum and not DO. DO schools would be the weaker foe in the community's eyes anyway.
I was super confused when I saw it was Nymphicus posting this BS...and then I realized it was Nymphicus posting!
I feel bad poking fun at others people's expense and refuse to take part. You guys should be nicer.
I'm afraid I don't follow.
However, after reading:Licensed naturopathic physicians have attended four-year professional-level programs at accredited institutions, where they have been educated in the same basic sciences as allopathic physicians. Some member schools in the AANMC actually require more hours of basic and clinical science than many top allopathic medical schools. (!!!!!!!!)I'm glad I just go to a regular, old-fashioned MD school because I probably wouldn't pass the curriculum at a ND school!
http://www.aanmc.org/naturopathic-medicine/naturopathic-physicians-are-rigorously-trained.php
I was confused because SDN has a tendency to suck the sense of humor out of me. I thought it was BS until I saw it was you, and then I looked closer. Then I realized that this was some seriously good info...I mean, I would never have considered ND before, but now I have to reconsider my app strategy.
She just didn't know these things... really even the regular nurses know these simple things..
Is there a "DO or ND?" thread yet? I will be so sad...Outside of our own narcissistic views, there seriously are people who want to go to podiatry or chiropractic school instead of MD/DO. I have a friend that pulled a 3.8 and 36 and went to a podiatry school. Full ride. His dream school.
Named by The Princeton Review as one of the 168 best medical schools in the country, the School of Naturopathic Medicine at Bastyr University is committed to developing leaders in the evolving field of natural medicine. Bastyr's fully accredited naturopathic doctor (ND) degree program is internationally renowned for its rigorous curriculum, comprehensive clinical training and groundbreaking research. With that in mind, there is no better place to earn a well-respected, nationally recognized degree in natural medicine than Bastyr.
And they even have dual degree options!! Master of Science in Acupuncture and Oriental Medicine!
At Bastyr's teaching clinic, Bastyr Center for Natural Health, as well as at Bastyr's off-site community care clinics, you are trained to be a primary care physician capable of treating a broad spectrum of patients. This training emphasizes adherence to the highest standards in patient assessment, differential diagnosis, medical record documentation, referral practices and patient follow-up.
You will be taught by faculty who are outstanding physicians, many of whom are recognized leaders in their fields. Your shift supervisor encourages, leads and directs the patient/clinician encounter, while allowing you gradually increasing levels of autonomy.
http://www.bastyr.edu/academics/areas-study/study-naturopathic-medicine
Where do I sign up???
It was sarcasm. That is only good info if you don't think about it at all
Oh god, I turned it into an anti-NP thread. Oh yeah don't bash D.O's. Can't have doctor without the D.O.
But seriously, I have a very bad experience with NP's.
We have to bash naturopathic doctors. Natural treatments has to be made very inferior to the big pharma industry.
To treat fibroids? Full on pain meds. Obesity? Give them liposuction and stomach stapling sugery? Don't like that? throw them out of your office. Big pharma's goal is to make sure patients stay on long term medication. If there's natural ways of curing diseases ... we have to call them quacks and bash them hard so nobody hears about it.
We have to bash naturopathic doctors. Natural treatments has to be made very inferior to the big pharma industry.
To treat fibroids? Full on pain meds. Obesity? Give them liposuction and stomach stapling sugery? Don't like that? throw them out of your office. Big pharma's goal is to make sure patients stay on long term medication. If there's natural ways of curing diseases ... we have to call them quacks and bash them hard so nobody hears about it.