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So for the schools that open in 2008, will they be accepting applications for the class of 2012 or will they start accepting applications in the 2008 cycle?
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AmoryBlaine said:
You don't just make more FPs, internists, and psychs by letting more kids into med school, b/c all those kids are still going to want to practice emergency medicine, ortho, or interventional cardiology...
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The DO's are trying to remedy that problem by creating six-year programs that push someone through med school and residency in one motion.
 
deuist said:
The DO's are trying to remedy that problem by creating six-year programs that push someone through med school and residency in one motion.
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They do a residency in FP right? Could u do on in IM through this route also? Sounds like a cool idea. BUt I m more interested in IM.
 
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deuist said:
The DO's are trying to remedy that problem by creating six-year programs that push someone through med school and residency in one motion.
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Medical training definitely does need to be shortened in its duration. And shouldnt take you away from your family and friends for so long (i.e. moving to a completely new place).
 
NRAI2001 said:
Medical training definitely does need to be shortened in its duration. And shouldnt take you away from your family and friends for so long (i.e. moving to a completely new place).
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I'm not quite sure....you won't realize how much there actually is to learn until you get in...and then you'll need some time to decide what you actually want to do....
 
deuist said:
The DO's are trying to remedy that problem by creating six-year programs that push someone through med school and residency in one motion.
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eh...its one individual school...and its a new program w/ only a few students on somewhat of a trial basis for this FP-only track....just adding this b/c I can see this convo going downhill fast w/ statements like the last few....
 
Taus said:
eh...its one individual school...and its a new program w/ only a few students on somewhat of a trial basis for this FP-only track....just adding this b/c I can see this convo going downhill fast w/ statements like the last few....
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Do you have a link to this program? Also you only really save one year, I think I would take the extra year and do a traditional residency. Though its a good idea. If it were a combined like 8 year ba/do/ FP program it might be a bit more worth it, you would save 3 years which is substaintial.
 
deuist said:
The DO's are trying to remedy that problem by creating six-year programs that push someone through med school and residency in one motion.
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Really? I'd like to hear more about that. I would bet you $100 that alot of those people that were auto-FPs after 6 years would just re-enter the match...
 
AmoryBlaine said:
Really? I'd like to hear more about that. I would bet you $100 that alot of those people that were auto-FPs after 6 years would just re-enter the match...
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That would be kinda useless though because if you knew that you didnt want to do FP then you could have entered the match after 4 years instead of 6 years.

Again this program seems kinda useless since you only save 1 year.
 
Blade28 said:
The University of Hawaii just has a new med school campus - not a brand new school.
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I'm including new branch campuses as well, since it will allow the number of students to greatly increase. UHawaii now has 2 campuses: Kakaako (sp?) and Manoa
 
Well got another update and added to the list.

virginia tech and carilion clinics in their infinite wisdom have decided that appalachia needs yet another med school. But get this, they arent designed to train primary care docs, they want to train "physician researchers." What an absolute joke.

Furthermore it will be the first privately operated MD school in the country. It will be the second overall private med school. Vista in Colorado will be the first private DO school.
 
ONe more update: I find it extremely disturbing how the justification for all these med schools has changed over the years.

In the beginning, it was just stuff like "there is a doctor shortage and we need more" kind of simplistic BS.

Now, the argument has shifted. We are buidling new med schools for the SOLE PURPOSE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH NO THOUGHT WHATSOEVER GIVEN TO PHYSICIAN WORKFORCE ISSUES.

Take a look at the press releases for all these new schools. All of them state first and foremost that med schools produce X amount of economic activity. Our profession is being whored out in the name of economic development.
 
MacGyver said:
ONe more update: I find it extremely disturbing how the justification for all these med schools has changed over the years.

In the beginning, it was just stuff like "there is a doctor shortage and we need more" kind of simplistic BS.

Now, the argument has shifted. We are buidling new med schools for the SOLE PURPOSE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WITH NO THOUGHT WHATSOEVER GIVEN TO PHYSICIAN WORKFORCE ISSUES.

Take a look at the press releases for all these new schools. All of them state first and foremost that med schools produce X amount of economic activity. Our profession is being whored out in the name of economic development.
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Did you think that the Caribbean schools were offering tuition for free? I don't see how these new schools are any different. Basic supply and demand economics. Nobody is forcing our accrediting bodies to endorse these schools, are they? You can always lobby them if you are upset that they're infringing on your ability to make money in the future. The real bottleneck in the U.S. is the number of PGY slots anyway.

If you don't think that the name of the game in this country is money, then you haven't adequately researched the profession. If there existed no thirst to rake income from practicing medicine or operating medical schools, then we'd have already converted to a socialist healthcare system by now.
 
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This insanity has got to be stopped. No good can come of this spreading of education & learning. Especially, when we the most advanced society in history can just drain the brains of third world countries.
 
A) It seems like as the population of the country grows, it only makes sense to increase the number of doctors proportionately. Of course, that is dependent on getting doctors to go into the fields that are necessary and the places they are needed.

B) There is rumor that UNC is going to open a branch campus in Charlotte. I don't know when that is scheduled to occur, though, because they're still in the study phase.
 
Aww I'm so proud of FIU finally getting a med school. :laugh:
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The El Paso school (a Texas Tech branch) is a definite go. While they will interview students and select their own class, the school will begin interviews by the same people. What I mean to say is, they aren't initially hiring new people to do separate interviews for TX Tech Lubbock and TX Tech El Paso. The current Deans are being pushed to pick up the slack.

Faculty is being hired as we speak, and the new building is moving along well. Should eventually hit a class of 140ish but they aren't sure how big the first class will necessarily be yet. Could be as low as 48 I've heard.

Unlike the UT system which separates their many TX schools, the 2 TX Tech schools will be much more open. I.E. you can do clinicals in multiple locations and share the same residency directors as they always have.
 
Lindyhopper said:
This insanity has got to be stopped. No good can come of this spreading of education & learning. Especially, when we the most advanced society in history can just drain the brains of third world countries.
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I agree totally. The mere notion of creating more opportunities for education is absolutely ridiculous. I mean, what good could possibly come of more people trained as doctors? :laugh: :laugh:

By the way, here is more info on the new MSU Grand Rapids school:
http://www.mlive.com/news/grpress/index.ssf?/base/news-34/1169136302258520.xml&coll=6
http://www.woodtv.com/Global/story.asp?S=5947105&nav=0Rce

It looks to me as if this campus is going to be more research oriented via its partnership with the next door Van Andel Institute.
http://www.vai.org/
Looks pretty impressive.
 
MacGyver said:
I'm including new branch campuses as well, since it will allow the number of students to greatly increase. UHawaii now has 2 campuses: Kakaako (sp?) and Manoa
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I will try to make this totally clear. UH does NOT have a new branch campus. All of the medical school classes take place in Kakaako. NONE of the medical school classes take place at Manoa, only research and training of public health students. UH JABSOM accepted ~60 students this year, just as they have every year.

The OP should remove UH JABSOM from his list.
 
stang said:
I will try to make this totally clear. UH does NOT have a new branch campus. All of the medical school classes take place in Kakaako. NONE of the medical school classes take place at Manoa, only research and training of public health students. UH JABSOM accepted ~60 students this year, just as they have every year.

The OP should remove UH JABSOM from his list.
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People only wish there were more spots than 60 for U of Hawaii. I interviewed there, it was a good place...
 
didn't that ole geezer law-2-doc explain that it won't really affect much b/c its going to just reduce the number of FMGs that get residency. If you weren't competetive for the ultra competetive specialties before, I doubt these new schools will make much of a difference. It just means more people that go alternative routes (carribean, foreign, borderline applicants) will now be in med school here. All of this nashing of teeth is silly. And yes I wish I went to med school in Hawaii
 
Can someone now Make a Neat List of New Schools, I would have if I had the time or the accurate info.

School (MD/DO) :
Location:
Date Opened or will open:
How many Students it will accept:
Curriculum Style if known:
 
FIU's Med School will be opening in '09.
 
Are UCR and UC Merced really trying to open new schools?
 
I don't think that OHSU-Eugene is going to be separate. Right now only a few students rotate through Sacred heart, and I don't think that capacity is going to really increase exponentially when the move to RiverBend happens. First of all there are no residents here, so any students work directly with teh attendings which would decrease the total number that rotate through I would think.
 
the school in Hawaii just moved buildings they still only have 60 spots just in a new location. the old location sank.
 
bump, adding a couple more bogus schools.

I love reading their press releases. They are positively giddy. "Yeah we're going to open up this cool med school and get all of this free federal research money and stuff!"

What a ****ing joke.

Witness the selling out of your profession in the name of "economic impact." They arent even hiding behind the "we need more rural/primary care doctors" or the "we need more black doctors" crap anymore

At least 8 of these new medical schools are being opened up SOLELY because the university thinks they will be getting tons of research grants and collateral economic influx into the region.
 
deuist said:
The DO's are trying to remedy that problem by creating six-year programs that push someone through med school and residency in one motion.
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The problem is none of those programs are going to be binding. All the applicants will lie on their applications and tell them they want to do primary care, and then when match time comes around they will show their true colors and apply to plastic surgery.

There is no mechanism in place that will force a graduate of these programs to do a primary care residency and ban them from doing anything else. They are always free to do whatever they want in the match process.
 
I'm rather 100% sure that the University of Central Florida and Florida International University allopathic programs don't open till Fall 2009...
 
Flopotomist said:
They are putting a med school in Merced?? and Riverside?? Where did you get that info? Weird.

It seems to me that putting a med school at one of the more established UCs would make more sense (eg Berkeley or UCSC). Who wants to live in Merced?
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The Merced one will be a while - it hasn't been completely approved yet. Riverside is supposed to take its first class in 2012.

Berkeley has no space for a med school or hospital. It would be a disaster trying to put it there. Ages ago UCSF was their med school (after being bought from a private school). It pulled off when Berkeley couldn't really handle the funding. (keep in mind this is when everything was a part of Berkeley (the only UC at the time) - Davis was the agricultural center, SF was the professional schools, Riverside was the teaching, etc.) Berkeley will likely never again have a med school.

UCSC might make sense I'm not really sure, never been there. Riverside made the most sense for the first one (they already have the joint UCLA program), and Merced makes sense in that they are new and growing and its easy to add programs.
 
Not exactly news, but hasnt been mentioned in this thread:

Cornell University opened a branch campus of its medical school in Doha, Qatar (Weill Cornell Medical College in Qatar (WCMC-Q)). The inaugural class is graduation in 2008.
 
Flopotomist said:
They are putting a med school in Merced?? and Riverside?? Where did you get that info? Weird.

It seems to me that putting a med school at one of the more established UCs would make more sense (eg Berkeley or UCSC). Who wants to live in Merced?
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Actually, if I remember correctly, UCSF was originally a part of UC Berkeley until they split off so I doubt that Berkeley will be getting a medical school for a long time, if ever.

EDIT: Okay, just saw that someone beat me to the punch in bringing that up so I guess this post is meaningless.
 
Apparently (from what I heard from an administration member) Central Michigan University is a good deal of the way down the road to opening an allopathic school and there is serious talk of there being a satellite campus in Saginaw (well, right outside of Saginaw....since the university there is not in the city).
 
Are there any new medical schools that we can apply to this year 08?? I would love to be in the first class!!
 
UC Riverside is definitely getting a med school in the near future. A friend of mine who went there told me that it is slated to open by 2012. The hospital will be located in the city of Moreno Valley which is like the next exit or two away from UCR.

UC Merced seems like it will be getting a med school but probably not any time too soon. Maybe 2015 or later.
 
This thread is hilarious. Who ever knew that my 31 classmates and I were part of such sinister machinations for bringing about the demise of quality American medical education? :lol:
 
I heard rumors of one being started up in Charlotte NC, not positive though
 
Update: William Carey Univ in Hattiesburg MS announces new DO program

We're pushing the number of new grads at a 25% increase over the current graduating sizes. Thats not even counting existing medical school expansions, which could push the percentage increase all the way past 40%.

Absolutely unbelievable, a 40% increase in the number of graduating doctors.

Folks this kind of expansion is absolutely unprecedented over the past 100 years of medical education.
 
MacGyver said:
Well well guys just like clockwork, Touro announces plans for a new DO branch campus in Bergen, NJ

Touro might as well open up a joint partnership with McDonalds so they can put a "train a doc in a box" at every McDs location. :rolleyes:

http://passaicnews.wordpress.com/2007/11/15/med-school-to-open-in-bergen-in-2009-touro/
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According to that article, it looks like the newest Touro will be an MD, not DO school. Not that it changes anything. Just funny to see that they are branching out.
 
Bump: yet another MD program coming down the pipe (Commonwealth/Scranton)

I love the reasoning they give for this. Its hilarious how all these schools come online and think they are going to get a big chunk of NIH dollars for research. I'd bet money straight up that these schools will have less than 1 million dollars in NIH grants 10 years from start-up. What a bunch of fools

Just like the other new schools, Commonwealth/Scranton is gonig to screw med students by forcing them rotate at outside hospitals. Their tiny little hospital they have now wont even touch the # of clinical spots they need.

I love how the dean of the new school says they'll figure out the clinical training spots later in 2011. Thats nice, wait till your first class is on the cusp of 3rd year before you figure out where to put these guys for clinical training. I can already see whats going to happen, they are going to get farmed out of state. What a joke. :rolleyes:
 
Alot of these schools don't sound too much better than Stewart Med, in intention or application. :(
 
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