New Underrepresented Minority

[dentstudent79]

Good news everyone, white people are the new underrepresented minority. At UPENN, 63 asians got in, 6 hispanics, 6 blacks, and only 43 whites. So, white people are the minority and next year UPENN should accept more white people to balance out this horrible underrepresentation.

http://www.dental.upenn.edu/life_at_penn_dental_diversity/profiles/class_profiles/class_of_2013/

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[Promethean]

:troll:

 

[Mad Jack]

Good news everyone, white people are the new underrepresented minority. At UPENN, 63 asians got in, 6 hispanics, 6 blacks, and only 43 whites. So, white people are the minority and next year UPENN should accept more white people to balance out this horrible underrepresentation.

http://www.dental.upenn.edu/life_at_penn_dental_diversity/profiles/class_profiles/class_of_2013/

 

[Daurang]

Asian only 5% of population, why are they 50% of the student body? Let call Holder to launch a Justice Department investigation.

 

[Silent Cool]

Asian only 5% of population, why are they 50% of the student body? Let call Holder to launch a Justice Department investigation.

ORM: Over Represented Minority (in academia, at least)

 

[sgv]

well there's also a disproportionate amount of caucasians vs asians in academia with whites being in the majority...plus the number of active white dentists outnumber asian dentists 12:1...

 

[dentstudent79]

LOLOLOLOLOL. thats not disproportionate. America is 72% white and 5% asian. haha so sad.

 

[sgv]

LOLOLOLOLOL. thats not disproportionate. America is 72% white and 5% asian. haha so sad.

LOLOLOLLL ur reading comprehension...trololol...so funny, much loser #scored16RConDAT

Seriously though, I mentioned the demographics in academia (i.e. teaching positions) and Whites outnumber Asians considerably...

 

[Silent Cool]

well there's also a disproportionate amount of caucasians vs asians in academia with whites being in the majority...plus the number of active white dentists outnumber asian dentists 12:1...

I made my comment in jest. Many of my Asian friends would always joke about their race in the context of academia by saying, "We're the over represented minority!"
'Course, that only applies relative to other minorities. Although I think a higher percentage of Asians (relative their total numbers in the country) are highly educated compared to other minorities and to whites.
In absolute numbers, of course, there are more whites in academia, etc.., but only because there is a larger overall Caucasian population.

 

[dentstudent79]

It's not worth responding to sgv's comments. He clearly doesn't understand percentages.

 

[Miley Cyrus.]

Good news everyone, white people are the new underrepresented minority. At UPENN, 63 asians got in, 6 hispanics, 6 blacks, and only 43 whites. So, white people are the minority and next year UPENN should accept more white people to balance out this horrible underrepresentation.

http://www.dental.upenn.edu/life_at_penn_dental_diversity/profiles/class_profiles/class_of_2013/

Cry me a river. Globalization will quickly end white privilege.

 

[dentstudent79]

I'm not crying. I'm just excited that I'm a minority now. It'll be easier to get into college maybe.

 

[yappy]

Cry me a river. Globalization will quickly end white privilege.

You've been indoctrinated if you believe such a phenomenon exists. I agree that the west will decline, however; unless we re-embrace the virtues that has allowed us to dominate the globe, space, and moon today.

 

[Mad Jack]

I'm not crying. I'm just excited that I'm a minority now. It'll be easier to get into college maybe.

Why are you so upset? If you're so special, you should be able to outcompete all the people taking those seats you so desire. I'm sorry your mediocrity and white skin doesn't guarantee you anything nowadays though, it must be so frustrating.

Here's the deal: admissions can be either race-blind or race-sensitive. If they're race sensitive, you end up with a few URMs admitted that wouldn't be otherwise (taking less than 5% of the seats in the class, usually). If they're race blind, Asians dominate admissions outright, as they have higher stats on average across the board. So which way do you want it? Do you want race to be factored in or not? Because either way, you lose.

 

[yappy]

Why are you so upset? If you're so special, you should be able to outcompete all the people taking those seats you so desire. I'm sorry your mediocrity and white skin doesn't guarantee you anything nowadays though, it must be so frustrating.

Here's the deal: admissions can be either race-blind or race-sensitive. If they're race sensitive, you end up with a few URMs admitted that wouldn't be otherwise (taking less than 5% of the seats in the class, usually). If they're race blind, Asians dominate admissions outright, as they have higher stats on average across the board. So which way do you want it? Do you want race to be factored in or not? Because either way, you lose.

Hopefully we'll move towards race-blind and become a society of individuals rather than collections of people based superficial traits. I don't understand the last statement about "losing". Many of the assumptions you're making about asians and whites are no longer true. Asian academic accellence is widely overstated in Gen X & Y. Indeed, African immigrants are the new Asians.

 

[Mad Jack]

Hopefully we'll move towards race-blind and become a society of individuals rather than collections of people based superficial traits. I don't understand the last statement about "losing". Many of the assumptions you're making about asians and whites are no longer true. Asian academic accellence is widely overstated in Gen X & Y. Indeed, African immigrants are the new Asians.

Won't happen. There are actual cultural differences at play that make having a diverse physician workforce essential. The purpose of a medical school is not to train the smartest physicians, but rather to train the right physicians that will serve that school's target populations. White people and American-born Asians don't tend to practice in poor Hispanic and black inner city neighborhoods. Foreign-born physicians, black, and hispanics do tend to practice in such areas at substantially higher rates. The people who need care the most in this country at the moment are minorities, and minority physicians are more likely to provide that care, therefore recruiting URM students makes sense from a mission perspective.

 

[yappy]

Won't happen. There are actual cultural differences at play that make having a diverse physician workforce essential. The purpose of a medical school is not to train the smartest physicians, but rather to train the right physicians that will serve that school's target populations. White people and American-born Asians don't tend to practice in poor Hispanic and black inner city neighborhoods. Foreign-born physicians, black, and hispanics do tend to practice in such areas at substantially higher rates. The people who need care the most in this country at the moment are minorities, and minority physicians are more likely to provide that care, therefore recruiting URM students makes sense from a mission perspective.

The purpose of medical school is to train physicians & admissions is a competitive process. You have an interesting way of looking at the process but it seems a bit too controlling & "according to his need" for my taste. IMO the goals of others for a society shouldn't hold that much influence over young people's potential career.

 

[deleted480308]

Won't happen. There are actual cultural differences at play that make having a diverse physician workforce essential. The purpose of a medical school is not to train the smartest physicians, but rather to train the right physicians that will serve that school's target populations. White people and American-born Asians don't tend to practice in poor Hispanic and black inner city neighborhoods. Foreign-born physicians, black, and hispanics do tend to practice in such areas at substantially higher rates. The people who need care the most in this country at the moment are minorities, and minority physicians are more likely to provide that care, therefore recruiting URM students makes sense from a mission perspective.

The last time someone posted a meta-study.....the referenced studies that discussed racial selection between patients/providers showed minority patients would actually drive farther to reach minority providers when there where other providers closer. The white/asian doctors aren't ignoring populations according to the studies I've seen posted (you might have others)

It's also true that of the studies from the meta-analysis that addressed "outcomes", most were actually satisfaction ratings and not physical outcomes.

 

[Mad Jack]

The last time someone posted a meta-study.....the referenced studies that discussed racial selection between patients/providers showed minority patients would actually drive farther to reach minority providers when there where other providers closer. The white/asian doctors aren't ignoring populations according to the studies I've seen posted (you might have others)

It's also true that of the studies from the meta-analysis that addressed "outcomes", most were actually satisfaction ratings and not physical outcomes.

It's a two way street. Doctors prefer to work with patients in a community they are comfortable with, and patients prefer doctors who, sadly, look like them.

 

[deleted480308]

It's a two way street. Doctors prefer to work with patients in a community they are comfortable with, and patients prefer doctors who, sadly, look like them.

I think doctors prefer money and as some demographics are more likely to have poorly reimbursing government health plans doctors don't exactly flood to those zip codes. But the docs aren't turning away money...you may have to drive farther, but anyone who can pay gets their care.

The difficulty comes in trying to design a system that pays for people with no money while also getting board certified specialists close to everyone in the country so their free care is also convenient. We are seeing as a nation that isn't an easy task