Non-traditional vet student: worth it?

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In my first career I was a high school teacher. Then I decided I wanted to be a veterinarian. I had to go back to college as a post-bacc pre-vet to complete my science prereqs. Several years and thousands of dollars more than I anticipated, I have been accepted to vet school (yeah :D). Now I am seriously looking at tuition costs, starting salaries, and my age (31). At some point I would like to start my own practice and maybe a family but from a financial perspective, if I want to have my debts paid before I retire, maybe it would be better to cut my losses now and go back to being a teacher.

I'm curious to hear how current graduates are doing financially 10, 20, 30 years after graduation? And not just salaries, but after paying debts/bills/ business expenses, how much room do you have to breathe?

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In my first career I was a high school teacher. Then I decided I wanted to be a veterinarian. I had to go back to college as a post-bacc pre-vet to complete my science prereqs. Several years and thousands of dollars more than I anticipated, I have been accepted to vet school (yeah :D). Now I am seriously looking at tuition costs, starting salaries, and my age (31). At some point I would like to start my own practice and maybe a family but from a financial perspective, if I want to have my debts paid before I retire, maybe it would be better to cut my losses now and go back to being a teacher.

I'm curious to hear how current graduates are doing financially 10, 20, 30 years after graduation? And not just salaries, but after paying debts/bills/ business expenses, how much room do you have to breathe?

Hi Sandie,

I'll be 36 in July and just finished my first year. I was a scientist before attending veterinary school. I was making good progress paying down my undergraduate loans, and enjoyed my full-time work in industry and academia. In these roles, however, my impact was limited. I couldn't enact the changes I wanted, or influence organizational culture, with a Master's degree alone. I recognized that if I wanted to be a mover and shaker in lab animal medicine (LAM), I had to be a veterinarian. That meant four years of vet school, plus an additional 3-5 years in a residency program (for atrociously low pay).

Vet school is everything I hoped it would be and more- truly, I love vet school. It's a very satisfying academic challenge. My class is full of truly wonderful people. I've made some great friends. I've been exposed to aspects of the career that I never knew existed, and am gradually building my experience base to be competitive for a LAM residency when it comes time to apply in my fourth year. I have no regrets at all- wonderful school, love the people, fantastic experience.

That being said, I will admit that it was very tough to return to school and subsist wholly on loans. I won't deny it- I miss my full-time salary. I have made peace with the reality that I will, in all likelihood, never own a home. I'll never have significant financial reserves, and will likely be living paycheck to paycheck for many years after I graduate. This is a major sacrifice, particularly in later life. I certainly don't expect to be financially salient, perhaps ever. If financial freedom ever did come to pass, it wouldn't be until my 60s or 70s. I expect to live a financially strapped life from here on out.

Only you can decide whether a career in veterinary medicine is 'worth it.' The answer to that question depends on your individual circumstances. I am single and childless. These factors provide me with the freedom to pursue my life's calling. I would have made different decisions had I had a husband and children to consider. I lived on a meager income for many, many years. I don't particularly enjoy it, but certainly know how to budget for it. In my case, the sacrifice is indeed worth it. I have no doubt in my mind that LAM is where I'm meant to be. The career fits me like a glove, and the safeguarding of animal welfare/advancement of biomedical science is more than a calling.

I can't comment on what it will be like in 20+ years. I'm not there yet. I do know that the market for LAM vets is shrinking- there is always the possibility that it won't work out. I have alternative options in mind if that's the way my story goes. Regardless, I could not have found peace in my life if I didn't try. For me, much of the satisfaction is in the chasing- not so much the end result.

I wish you the best of success with your decision. Feel free to PM me if you've got specific questions.
 
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In my first career I was a high school teacher. Then I decided I wanted to be a veterinarian. I had to go back to college as a post-bacc pre-vet to complete my science prereqs. Several years and thousands of dollars more than I anticipated, I have been accepted to vet school (yeah :D). Now I am seriously looking at tuition costs, starting salaries, and my age (31). At some point I would like to start my own practice and maybe a family but from a financial perspective, if I want to have my debts paid before I retire, maybe it would be better to cut my losses now and go back to being a teacher.

I'm curious to hear how current graduates are doing financially 10, 20, 30 years after graduation? And not just salaries, but after paying debts/bills/ business expenses, how much room do you have to breathe?

I think a lot of this is going to depend on what the personal circumstances are going in. So a doom and gloom outlook of another graduate who has $300k+ loans at 35 years of age who is geographically restricted to areas due to family ties that only pay 60-70k of stable income may not apply to you. A brighter outlook of someone who came out at 26 years old with $70k loans earning 80k in a fairly low cost of living area with significant spousal contribution may also not apply to you.

If you know the cost of attendance of the school you are planning on going to, a good way to look at your individual situation is to use the vin foundation student loan simulator, which will tell you roughly how much disposable income you'll have to live on after loans have been paid. You can simulate that with a wide range of salaries to see what you'll have to make.

I would personally not consider anecdotes from those who graduated much more than 10 years ago, because things were very different before that... The tuition situation as well as the veterinary market are both very different now compared to then, particularly after the market crash. And there are huge geographic differences as well both in salary as well as the cost of living.

I have always been financially responsible, and was terrified of my financial situation going in to vet school, partly due to the loan situation but also because of the over saturation of the veterinary market. I was worried I would not be able to get a job, or if I did, end up in a crappy job I hated that paid very little in return (this did indeed happen... Thank goodness it was shortlived). One year out, I'm actually doing pretty good and am pretty darn happy with my decision to become a veterinarian and I'm financially stable for now.

I graduated with $140k in student loans after paying off all interest prior to graduation. My first job sucked and I was making <$70,000. I'm currently on a production based pay system as a small animal GP and it looks like I will be making $90-110k this year. My SO brings in $45k per year and has enough in savings for a downpayment for a decent house. This safety cushion of his allowed me to quit my job and sit around until a truly good offer came around without worrying about financial hardship. It also allows me to put a good portion of my income into paying student loans rather than putting it in savings (after all bills are paid for the month, I clear out my checkings account down to $2000 and put anything extra into my loans). So I am able to pay anywhere between $3000-5000 per month on my loans. I also have a trust fund of sorts that I can use to pay an extra $7000 per year on my loans.

I live in a mid cost of living area where our monthly rent plus utilities are only about $1000/mo for the both of us. We don't have cable, don't drink, don't have a gym membership, or have any costly hobbies. We both do have new but non luxury cars that should be paid off in 2-4 years. We pack our own lunches daily. We are able to go out to a nice restaurant once a week or so as our only real "fun" expense. But if I need something (new phone, medical expense, laptop, extra CE not covered by my employer), I can buy most things without putting much thought into it. And we can afford to splurge on groceries without worrying about its impact. We're not living it up, but we're very comfortable and money isn't something I worry about on a day to day basis. I should be able to pay off my loans in 3-4 years if nothing changes. At that point, we will have an extra 4000-6000 per month to put into our savings/retirement/house/family/maybe a couple more luxuries in life. I'm 30 now and my bf is 35, so we're pretty okay with putting our lives on hold for another 1-3 years. Things will get a little more complicated if we decide to buy a house before my loans are paid off, but it shouldn't be too bad.

I do worry about losing my job and or becoming disabled such that I can't work. Due to my increase in income, I'll be fortifying my disability insurance since both my SO and my livelihood depend on my ability to work.
 
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I graduated with $140k in student loans after paying off all interest prior to graduation. My first job sucked and I was making <$70,000. I'm currently on a production based pay system as a small animal GP and it looks like I will be making $90-110k this year.


Things like this make me wish I liked small animal work. But I just can't bear the thought of not working with cows and ponies.

Jealousy aside, minners post is spot-on. What's worth it for some people might not be worth it for others.

Personally, I chose an income based repayment plan. With the difference between that and a normal repayment plan, I live a pretty decent life. I'm saving for the tax write off at the end, but I am also saving for retirement, can afford to take small vacations, etc. Even if I took every penny I was saving now and threw it at loans, it would still take me 20 years to pay off because of the interest accumulating, and I wouldn't have any leeway for emergencies or splurges.

I have above average debt, a salary that's right around the national average in a high cost of living area, and a benefits package that covers many big expenses (vehicle, gas, phone, health insurance, HSA, pet food/care, etc).
 
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Thank you all for sharing. I have been playing around with loan calculators and I must admit that it is quite shocking. I will definitely be seeking out every scholarship and loan repayment program in existence in hopes that I can reduce my loan by the slightest amount. I'm just glad I didn't do this with hopes of becoming super rich.
 
Just as another voice... I think you really have to weigh how much you want it and also would you be just as happy doing something else? The enormity of the loans and the time it takes to make it through the course with the added stress to your life + the time taken away (decreased quality of living) should be factored in. I started vet at 30 after 7 years working post undergrad in fields I just didn't like and I had wanted to be a vet since I was a young girl. The first 2 years I enjoyed it, the coursework was hard, but I manageable. The last 2 years have been utter hell. There have been points I have enjoyed and while the coursework has gotten more relevant the stress has increased exponentially. I am fighting emotions, stress & anxiety battles I never thought I would have. I have given thought to quitting a few times as I realised the more burnt out I become the more I just want to do something else. And I found other passions whilst in vet. Ironic as it may be.

I know I am meant for vet and a few other pursuits. But getting through has been hell. And it is not over yet. I just started rotations and I am in a constant state of stress, exhaustion and utter hopelessness. The only thing I can say now after starting rotations is I finally feel like I am learning & retaining information so maybe I can do it.

I will graduate in a ridiculous amount of debt and my income will be 50-60 if I am lucky. It will take me over 20 yrs to pay it back and I am banking on IBR to help. I can only hope to scrape by in the end. I think specialising would be my only way to increase that figure but more years & more debt.... so

This is just one reality and something to consider from another mature student..
 
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