*~*~*~*Official AMCAS Work/Activities Tips Thread 2016-2017*~*~*~*

[banana_phone]

I nannied throughout college and after college for several different families. Should I use the repeated function for this, or use an all encompassing date span and then specify within the narrative? I have it as all encompassing..but it seems this may be a good scenario for the repeated?

My problem with that is I want to use the family I nannied for the longest as the primary contact info, but they aren't chronologically first or last. Will that be confusing?

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[Tux4555]

I was featured in a number of news articles for my community endeavors. Is there anywhere you can attach an article like this. If not, should I just list the publications I've been featured in and what they said, or is not even worth it? Thanks for the help!!!

 

[SimpleNames]

@Catalystik

I don't suppose I could PM you a sample of what I have written for one of my "most meaningful experiences" and you could give me some feedback on what I might alter? I've written most of the work/activities so far, and would very much appreciate your input.

Also; if I have forgotten the contact information of physicians I have shadowed (2-3 years ago); how would you go about this? I wanted to list the contact info for each physician, but I have shadowed both a plastic reconstructive surgeon resident and an orthopedic surgeon resident both 2-3 years ago (other shadowing being more recent) and do not have their contact information. It was a case where I was volunteering at a hospital (same hospital both times), and towards the end of my shift I asked if I could shadow on the spot; to which they said yes.

 

[Catalystik]

I nannied throughout college and after college for several different families. Should I use the repeated function for this, or use an all encompassing date span and then specify within the narrative? I have it as all encompassing..but it seems this may be a good scenario for the repeated?

My problem with that is I want to use the family I nannied for the longest as the primary contact info, but they aren't chronologically first or last. Will that be confusing?

Most recent, longest running, or most significant are all legitimate reasons for a choice first.

 

[Catalystik]

I was featured in a number of news articles for my community endeavors. Is there anywhere you can attach an article like this. If not, should I just list the publications I've been featured in and what they said, or is not even worth it? Thanks for the help!!!

These are not worth including. Sorry.

 

[Catalystik]

@CatalystikI have forgotten the contact information of physicians I have shadowed (2-3 years ago); how would you go about this? I wanted to list the contact info for each physician, but I have shadowed both a plastic reconstructive surgeon resident and an orthopedic surgeon resident both 2-3 years ago (other shadowing being more recent) and do not have their contact information. It was a case where I was volunteering at a hospital (same hospital both times), and towards the end of my shift I asked if I could shadow on the spot; to which they said yes.

Refer to them as residency staff from xxx and YYY departments. Add a notation that they might be contacted at their respective training programs at ZZZ hospital and give its phone number. Put this at the end of the entry, with the more recent shadowees first for whom you do have recent contact info.

Sorry, I am not providing feedback on written entries. Consider recruiting another SDNer to exchange the favor with.

 

[Noctámbulo]

These are not worth including. Sorry.

A question in follow-up: if I've had research interviews published in local/national media, will it look like padding if I include this bit of information under the corresponding research tab?

 

[Catalystik]

A question in follow-up: if I've had research interviews published in local/national media, will it look like padding if I include this bit of information under the corresponding research tab?

Yes, so don't include it.

 

[turtles43]

How do you suggest I group multiple clubs into one activity? I was a member in all of them but do not think they deserve their own entry. Do I explain each club or let the names explain for themselves?

Also how would I enter dates and hours ?

Thank you!

 

[Catalystik]

How do you suggest I group multiple clubs into one activity? I was a member in all of them but do not think they deserve their own entry.

Do I explain each club or let the names explain for themselves?

Also how would I enter dates and hours ?

Entering Multiple Clubs in One Space:

Use Extracurricular as the tag.
Title it something like, Collegiate Organization Involvement [Academic Year].
Use the header to give info on the club with either the longest involvement, the most significant, or the most recent.
List the clubs, but only describe them if the name of it isn't explanatory. Any special initiatives you helped with can be mentioned, too.
Give subtotals of hours with each and either give dates (9/12-5/16) or academic years of membership (ie Soph-Jr year).
Either use the Office of Collegiate Affairs (or whoever oversees official college orgs) as your Contact, or give an officer from each with contact info.
The Total Hours box would add all the subtotals up.

 

[turtles43]

Entering Multiple Clubs in One Space:

Use Extracurricular as the tag.
Title it something like, Collegiate Organization Involvement [Academic Year].
Use the header to give info on the club with either the longest involvement, the most significant, or the most recent.
List the clubs, but only describe them if the name of it isn't explanatory. Any special initiatives you helped with can be mentioned, too.
Give subtotals of hours with each and either give dates (9/12-5/16) or academic years of membership (ie Soph-Jr year).
Either use the Office of Collegiate Affairs (or whoever oversees official college orgs) as your Contact, or give an officer from each with contact info.
The Total Hours box would add all the subtotals up.

Thank you!

If I presented at only 1 conference with my adviser, is that worthy of its own entry?

 

[Noctámbulo]

Yes, so don't include it.

Interesting. Even if I was the interviewee/ the articles were about my own work? I've seen labs include these on their websites, so I had assumed it would be acceptable to mention them in the AMCAS research slot for my thesis.

 

[Catalystik]

If I presented at only 1 conference with my adviser, is that worthy of its own entry?

It the conference was not a school event, then yes.

 

[turtles43]

It the conference was not a school event, then yes.

It was at the main campus of my university ( I attended a branch campus), but after I graduated.

 

[Catalystik]

Interesting. Even if I was the interviewee/ the articles were about my own work? I've seen labs include these on their websites, so I had assumed it would be acceptable to mention them in the AMCAS research slot for my thesis.

Consider: The source of information is rarely an objective observer. I've been interviewed for these, with the unimpeachable source of all that's printed being me.

How does that add value over what you have already listed on your application? If it's an expanded version, who do you think will take the time to read it?

 

[Catalystik]

It was at the main campus of my university ( I attended a branch campus), but after I graduated.

If you can make a case for the process of selection being somewhat competitive, then go for it. If you were required to do the presentation, it was not selective at all.

 

[radioactive15]

1) For a poster presentation, should I create a separate entry or combine it with my Research entry and include that I presented a poster in the description?

2) For awards/recognitions like PBK and Dean's Lists, do we have to include the criteria or is that unnecessary to include if they're well known?

3) For description of an activity or award, would copy & pasting the description verbatim from our college website or organization be considered "plagiarism"? If yes, should we rephrase it or cite it somehow ?

 

[Catalystik]

1) For a poster presentation, should I create a separate entry or combine it with my Research entry and include that I presented a poster in the description?

2) For awards/recognitions like PBK and Dean's Lists, do we have to include the criteria or is that unnecessary to include if they're well known?

3) For description of an activity or award, would copy & pasting the description verbatim from our college website or organization be considered "plagiarism"? If yes, should we rephrase it or cite it somehow ?

1) Was the poster presentation given at a campus event? If yes, then mention it in the same space as the research description.

2) Criteria for both vary by campus, so listing them is a good idea.

3) Paraphrase it.

 

[banana_phone]

I participated in a global health seminar where we spent 3 weeks in Thailand looking at TB and transmission between elephants and humans. I am unsure how to input hours for this....should I count the entire 3 weeks? Or just the time we spent actively doing academic stuff? It will be a major ballpark guess either way..

 

[Catalystik]

I participated in a global health seminar where we spent 3 weeks in Thailand looking at TB and transmission between elephants and humans. I am unsure how to input hours for this....should I count the entire 3 weeks? Or just the time we spent actively doing academic stuff? It will be a major ballpark guess either way..

Just count the hours you engaged in academic pursuits. You will make eyes roll if sleeping, eating, and touring are included.

 

[lemonscientist]

Hi all,

I graduated with a minor in studio art and did significant installation work that was shown in multiple venues and am currently applying to show my work elsewhere. With the character limit, it's a little bit difficult to explain the work itself, although I will be expounding on its significance after selecting it as a most meaningful experience. I feel that both the content (medium, subject matter, process, etc.) and story are important in describing why this has been such a profound event to me. I was wondering if there is a way for me to allow the adcomms to see the work either through a link to a squarespace account or instagram?

My instagram was originally created with the intent of being for art only but also has tons of pictures of my cats and dog, but aside from the furbabies is strictly professional. Should I allow this as the lens for viewing or create a med-school adcom specific site?

Thanks!

 

[Catalystik]

Hi all,

I graduated with a minor in studio art and did significant installation work that was shown in multiple venues and am currently applying to show my work elsewhere. With the character limit, it's a little bit difficult to explain the work itself, although I will be expounding on its significance after selecting it as a most meaningful experience. I feel that both the content (medium, subject matter, process, etc.) and story are important in describing why this has been such a profound event to me. I was wondering if there is a way for me to allow the adcomms to see the work either through a link to a squarespace account or instagram?

My instagram was originally created with the intent of being for art only but also has tons of pictures of my cats and dog, but aside from the furbabies is strictly professional. Should I allow this as the lens for viewing or create a med-school adcom specific site?

Thanks!

I suggest you would do better to create a new site, possibly with a tiny URL, so as to use up fewer characters. Or take out the furbabies.

 

[deleted765155]

I'm confused for shadowing entries.

a) Total Hours = Total hours of all physicians that I shadowed?

b) Total hours = total hours of first physician listed as contact, etc.?

 

[Catalystik]

I'm confused for shadowing entries.

a) Total Hours = Total hours of all physicians that I shadowed?

b) Total hours = total hours of first physician listed as contact, etc.?

The Total Hours box should be the sum of all the subtotals you included for each physician listed in the narrative box.

 

[waitaminute]

I have a few questions about classifying my extracurriculars -
I currently volunteer at a senior memory wellness center that both offers classes for seniors with memory problems and also runs studies on seniors regarding exercise and nutritional supplements. Most of my duties consist of interviewing seniors and also helping them through their visit as a research subject. Would this be able to be classified as non-clinical volunteering? It's not in a hospital and is not remotely related to anything medical. I also don't really do anything related to the actual research - most of my time is spent interacting with the seniors themselves. I was hoping to classify it as non-clinical as my clinical and research aspects of my application are already very strong.

Also, if I served as a club member for three years, and then was part of the leadership team in my last year, would it be okay to put the leadership position in a separate slot than simply being a club member? Similarly could I do this for my scribe job (I also work as a scribe trainer)?

Thank you so much for your time!!

 

[Catalystik]

I have a few questions about classifying my extracurriculars -
1) I currently volunteer at a senior memory wellness center that both offers classes for seniors with memory problems and also runs studies on seniors regarding exercise and nutritional supplements. Most of my duties consist of interviewing seniors and also helping them through their visit as a research subject. Would this be able to be classified as non-clinical volunteering? It's not in a hospital and is not remotely related to anything medical. I also don't really do anything related to the actual research - most of my time is spent interacting with the seniors themselves. I was hoping to classify it as non-clinical as my clinical and research aspects of my application are already very strong.

2) Also, if I served as a club member for three years, and then was part of the leadership team in my last year, would it be okay to put the leadership position in a separate slot than simply being a club member? Similarly could I do this for my scribe job (I also work as a scribe trainer)?

Thank you so much for your time!!

1) It seems like you could easily spin it either way, depending on the components of your role that you emphasize.

2) Yes and yes.

 

[PB&Jam]

Regarding Academic Awards:
1) If you are listing multiple awards under one heading, what should you put as the award date?
2) Since awards don't really have "hours" attached to them, should you just put "0" there?
Thanks!

 

[Doctor Dream]

Couple questions about how to list my CNA experience... I did my CNA clinicals on a dementia unit, then after getting my certification a couple months later, was hired at this same care facility on a different unit. I worked at this facility for a few months, and was then hired on a surgical unit in a hospital, where I currently work.

Can I list my clincals and work experience at this care facility under the same entry? Is it also recommended I do separate entries for the care facility and hospital job? My job at the hospital is very different from my old one. Thanks!

 

[Catalystik]

Regarding Academic Awards:
1) If you are listing multiple awards under one heading, what should you put as the award date?
2) Since awards don't really have "hours" attached to them, should you just put "0" there?
Thanks!

1) Either the date of graduation or the last date you got any of the awards.

2) The number of hours you sat at awards ceremonies to receive them. Or a 0 or 1.

 

[Catalystik]

Couple questions about how to list my CNA experience... I did my CNA clinicals on a dementia unit, then after getting my certification a couple months later, was hired at this same care facility on a different unit. I worked at this facility for a few months, and was then hired on a surgical unit in a hospital, where I currently work.

Can I list my clincals and work experience at this care facility under the same entry? Is it also recommended I do separate entries for the care facility and hospital job? My job at the hospital is very different from my old one. Thanks!

While you could list the three together. I suggest at least two entries. And since the clinicals do not constitute Employment, mention those hours in the same space as part of the back story, but don't include them in the Total Hours box at the top. Make clear those hours are in addition.

 

[charlieisis]

I was wondering how many hours would be reasonable to assign to a position like being an RA for a school year. I'm unsure of how to treat it because while I obviously didn't spend all my time devoted to it, responsibilities could pop up at anytime 24/7 like accompanying a student to the hospital, mediating disputes, or just being a resource for a freshman in need. There were also more regular duties like a couple weekly group meetings and all the work that went into organizing orientation.

Besides the regular meetings, it would be hard to ballpark an average weekly time commitment since it varied so much. It was a pretty significant role, but I don't want to induce any eyerolls with a number that seems inflated. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Catalystik]

I was wondering how many hours would be reasonable to assign to a position like being an RA for a school year. I'm unsure of how to treat it because while I obviously didn't spend all my time devoted to it, responsibilities could pop up at anytime 24/7 like accompanying a student to the hospital, mediating disputes, or just being a resource for a freshman in need. There were also more regular duties like a couple weekly group meetings and all the work that went into organizing orientation.

Besides the regular meetings, it would be hard to ballpark an average weekly time commitment since it varied so much. It was a pretty significant role, but I don't want to induce any eyerolls with a number that seems inflated. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Add usual hours at the desk, usual weekly meeting time, orientation duties, plus average counseling/escorting/disciplinary/mediation/report writing time per week, subtract weeks you went home for vacation, come up with a good faith estimate and put that in the Total Hours Box. But then in the narrative mention that you were "On Call" and average of XXX hours per week or month and that those hours can't be accounted for so weren't included. Adcomms regularly see applications with RA entries and so have a good idea of the time involved, so I'm glad you're aware that exaggeration wouldn't reflect well.

 

[jtd2081]

This has probably been asked, but for some reason I cannot find anything on it.
I have been a scribe for about 2 years, and am still working. For the end date what should I put? I plan on leaving in May of 2017. Do I just put that date?

 

[pirouette]

Hi, quick question about classifying an activity - if I founded a service outreach opportunity through a student group at my university and later served on the executive board of the group as director of the outreach opportunity (while also volunteering for the outreach opportunity), would I list this as Leadership - not listed elsewhere or Community Service non-clinical? (The service involves tutoring at underprivileged schools.)

I have read to designate appropriately so you seem well rounded, and I do already have another non-clinical community service on my app, whereas I don't have anything designated as 'leadership.' I have seen on past posts to list being a resident advisor as paid employment or else that would be leadership. Any thoughts on how to classify this activity given multiple roles would be appreciated. Thanks!

 

[Catalystik]

This has probably been asked, but for some reason I cannot find anything on it.
I have been a scribe for about 2 years, and am still working. For the end date what should I put? I plan on leaving in May of 2017. Do I just put that date?

Yes, that works fine. Be sure to differentiate between completed hours and future hours.

 

[Espressso]

I know this has been asked before, but, for example with my current scribe position. Should I put the in the "total hours" box, the amount of hours I've worked as a scribe, and then in the description, indicate the predicted amount by the time of matriculation?

 

[Catalystik]

1) Hi, quick question about classifying an activity - if I founded a service outreach opportunity through a student group at my university and later served on the executive board of the group as director of the outreach opportunity (while also volunteering for the outreach opportunity), would I list this as Leadership - not listed elsewhere or Community Service non-clinical? (The service involves tutoring at underprivileged schools.)

I have read to designate appropriately so you seem well rounded, and I do already have another non-clinical community service on my app, whereas I don't have anything designated as 'leadership.'

2) I have seen on past posts to list being a resident advisor as paid employment or else that would be leadership. Any thoughts on how to classify this activity given multiple roles would be appreciated.

1) If you prefer to have a Leadership listing, you could either split out the leadership component and its separate hours and list it on its own (with the tutoring maybe under the Teaching tag in another space, or grouped with another teaching activity), or you could include everything under the Leadership tag, but have the dates be for the leadership only, the Total Hours box be for the leadership only, and then mention the tutoring with its own hours and date span, as part of the back story in the narrative. One would want to make clear that the tutoring hours were in addition to those listed in the box, if the latter strategy is used.

2) You could use the Other tag when multiple components are present. Or you could tag it as Employment, but make the name of the space reflect whatever leadership role you took on. All RAs are not necessarily assumed to be peer leaders, so your description would need to make clear what that role entailed for you, so as to convince adcomms you were more than a "policeman, disciplinarian, and front-desk information provider," or whatever.

 

[Catalystik]

I know this has been asked before, but, for example with my current scribe position. Should I put the in the "total hours" box, the amount of hours I've worked as a scribe, and then in the description, indicate the predicted amount by the time of matriculation?

See page 3, post #137 for several options on including Future Hours.

 

[harder]

Thank you for patiently answering our questions! I really really appreciate such resources that are impossible to get anywhere else, not even in our schools' paid health profession advising.

My question is about the three "most meaningful" experiences: must there be at least medicine related "most meaningful"?

I have extensively written about my patient interactions as a medical interpreter and my 5 research experiences in my personal statement, why MD-PhD essay and significant research experience essay. Thus, it seems from previous posts that it is not meaningful to list medical interpreter and research experiences as "most meaningful"?

I have planned two "most meaningful"s: "Publications, national meeting presentation, awards" for extra space and a student leadership experience where I devoted much time and energy to restructure the organization. I have been stuck for a few days to decide the third one. I can write about a nonmedical volunteer experience but I am concerned if my "most meaningful" activities will seem all unrelated to medicine.

Thank you in advance!

 

[Catalystik]

Thank you for patiently answering our questions! I really really appreciate such resources that are impossible to get anywhere else, not even in our schools' paid health profession advising.

My question is about the three "most meaningful" experiences: must there be at least medicine related "most meaningful"?

I have extensively written about my patient interactions as a medical interpreter and my 5 research experiences in my personal statement, why MD-PhD essay and significant research experience essay. Thus, it seems from previous posts that it is not meaningful to list medical interpreter and research experiences as "most meaningful"?

I have planned two "most meaningful"s: "Publications, national meeting presentation, awards" for extra space and a student leadership experience where I devoted much time and energy to restructure the organization. I have been stuck for a few days to decide the third one. I can write about a nonmedical volunteer experience but I am concerned if my "most meaningful" activities will seem all unrelated to medicine.

Thank you in advance!

There is no obligation to have a medically-related MM (probably less so for MD/PhD applicants), though it's fairly universally done. And there is no obligation to designate more than one activity as Most Meaningful. You have the choice of picking a MM that is actually important to you (even Hobbies or Artistic Endeavors, if relevant), or selecting one you think adcomms want to see, or picking one for which you need more narrative space for a proper explanation. You could also quit if you've already said what you want to say, as succinctness is valued. Or you could rewrite your PS, perhaps making it more anecdote-inclined, so that you can use those clinically-relevant comments/impact/insights in a third MM space.

You might be disappointed that I won't tell you "what you need to do", but you will be relieved to know that never once have I heard other adcomms comment about what categories were chosen, or not chosen, as Most Meaningful. And, I don't make a note of it myself.

 

[pirouette]

1) If you prefer to have a Leadership listing, you could either split out the leadership component and its separate hours and list it on its own (with the tutoring maybe under the Teaching tag in another space, or grouped with another teaching activity), or you could include everything under the Leadership tag, but have the dates be for the leadership only, the Total Hours box be for the leadership only, and then mention the tutoring with its own hours and date span, as part of the back story in the narrative. One would want to make clear that the tutoring hours were in addition to those listed in the box, if the latter strategy is used.

2) You could use the Other tag when multiple components are present. Or you could tag it as Employment, but make the name of the space reflect whatever leadership role you took on. All RAs are not necessarily assumed to be peer leaders, so your description would need to make clear what that role entailed for you, so as to convince adcomms you were more than a "policeman, disciplinarian, and front-desk information provider," or whatever.

Thank you so much for the helpful reply! Just a follow-up question:

1) I do have another teaching activity I could include the tutoring under, but if I discuss the importance of the tutoring in addition to the leadership in my narrative (it's one of my most important experiences), would it be best to call it "other" since there's multiple components or "service, non clinical?" My preference to have a leadership label is arbitrary since I believe I could be clear that my RA role entailed that in the write-up, like you said.

2) Is it necessary to differentiate between completed and future hours for all current activities? Is the best way to do this by making two time entries or differentiating between them in the narrative?

Thank you again!

 

[Judson]

Thank you for posting this, it is really helpful! I have worked multiple jobs during my undergrad years and have some questions.

- How should I go about grouping these?
- If combining jobs to one slot, how should I format?
- I did not leave the bolded ones on good terms, but those places are now under new management. Should I even bother including them?

-Campus Security Guard
-Line Cook at Applebees
-Line Cook at Campus Commons
-Waiter at a Golf Resort/Conference Center
-TA for Biology Dept.
-Currently graduated and working as a Postbac-IRTA at NIH

My current plan is to write separate entries for the TA (not top 3) and Postbac IRTA (top 3) positions since they are more relevant. I would then write about the other three jobs in one slot.

 

[Catalystik]

1) I do have another teaching activity I could include the tutoring under, but if I discuss the importance of the tutoring in addition to the leadership in my narrative (it's one of my most important experiences), would it be best to call it "other" since there's multiple components or "service, non clinical?" My preference to have a leadership label is arbitrary since I believe I could be clear that my RA role entailed that in the write-up, like you said.

2) Is it necessary to differentiate between completed and future hours for all current activities? Is the best way to do this by making two time entries or differentiating between them in the narrative?

1) Though you have already used that tag for something else, I'd still use Community Service-Not Medical/Clinical, as you can denote the Teaching and Leadership components in the title.

2) The AMCAS guidelines don't oblige you to do so, but I feel it's best to be transparent on this issue, so that adcomms won't make an incorrect assumption of deliberate obfuscation. Either strategy you describe is a good one for the purpose of providing clarity.

 

[Catalystik]

I have worked multiple jobs during my undergrad years and have some questions.

- How should I go about grouping these?
- If combining jobs to one slot, how should I format?
- I did not leave the bolded ones on good terms, but those places are now under new management. Should I even bother including them?

-Campus Security Guard
-Line Cook at Applebees
-Line Cook at Campus Commons
-Waiter at a Golf Resort/Conference Center
-TA for Biology Dept.
-Currently graduated and working as a Postbac-IRTA at NIH

My current plan is to write separate entries for the TA (not top 3) and Postbac IRTA (top 3) positions since they are more relevant. I would then write about the other three jobs in one slot.

If these places are contacted, they will only be asked to confirm your dates of employment and work hours, not to give a reference. Still , information might be offered voluntarily that would not reflect well, so if you were fired for some egregious reason, you might want to leave it off the list. Applebees main corporate headquarters should have an Employee Resource Office that would have your employment records (if the local one doesn't) and so would your campus Office of Student Employment (or whatever they might be called, so you can still provide Contact info for them.

You can group the four that will not be listed elsewhere under an Employment slot you name, perhaps, Short-Term (or Seasonal) Employment in the College Years. Use the most recent (or longest term) for the info in the header. Give similar information for the others in the narrative space, plus a subtotal of hours. Little description is needed if the employee role is intuitive. Since Campus Security Guard is a position of trust, you might want to go into that one more. Rather than a narrative, you may use bullets, if you prefer. For the Total Hours box, add up all the subtotals. If you have further quetsions, let me know.

 

[mdog2015]

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[Catalystik]

I was founder of a pre-medical fraternity and also the first president. My role as president involved the usual president duties, but as founder I was involved with talking to the national board and making sure the colony was following guidelines and getting all our initial requirements done to become an offical chapter. Currently being president is one of my most meaningful experiences.

Should I combine these two experiences? If I do, I'll only have 8 experiences. Plus the CEO of the frat is writing me a LOR and I wanted to make it the distinction clear in case she talks about both roles (I can't read her letter though, so idk)

If you have enough to say about both, and they each involved sufficient hours so the activity can stand alone, then they can certainly use two spaces (one as MM), since you have room for them. You can link them together in adcomm minds, perhaps by using similar words in the title, like Premedical Fraternity or the actual name of the organization, eg, Psi Rho Epsilon (even though that name will be used again in the header).

Alternatively, if you want them in one space, you might name it something like, Founder and First President of Campus Pre-Medical Fraternity, so both roles are evoked. If the frat is a service fraternity, you might include that in the title too. If it's a social fraternity, don't mention it.

 

[mdog2015]

If you have enough to say about both, and they each involved sufficient hours so the activity can stand alone, then they can certainly use two spaces (one as MM), since you have room for them. You can link them together in adcomm minds, perhaps by using similar words in the title, like Premedical Fraternity or the actual name of the organization, eg, Psi Rho Epsilon (even though that name will be used again in the header).

Alternatively, if you want them in one space, you might name it something like, Founder and First President of Campus Pre-Medical Fraternity, so both roles are evoked. If the frat is a service fraternity, you might include that in the title too. If it's a social fraternity, don't mention it.

Thank you so much!

How many hours would you say are sufficient? I'm pretty sure both roles have sufficient hours, but just checking for some other experiences.

 

[Catalystik]

Thank you so much!

How many hours would you say are sufficient? I'm pretty sure both roles have sufficient hours, but just checking for some other experiences.

It depends on the experience. Give me some examples with hours.

 

[raca1111]

I am not sure if this has been asked before, but if I am starting a volunteering opportunity that I know I will be able to better write about in a couple weeks from now (unfortunately I am just starting at the end of the month), can I still include it in AMCAS? and if so, will it look bad that I am unable to really elaborate/is it okay for me to wait a couple of weeks before submitting that section? Ugh I'm not too sure how to word all of my questions in this post, but any help would be appreciated!!

 

[Catalystik]

if I am starting a volunteering opportunity that I know I will be able to better write about in a couple weeks from now (unfortunately I am just starting at the end of the month), can I still include it in AMCAS? and if so, will it look bad that I am unable to really elaborate/is it okay for me to wait a couple of weeks before submitting that section? Ugh I'm not too sure how to word all of my questions in this post, but any help would be appreciated!!

With AMCAS, once you submit the application, you can't go back and change the Activities section. Do you already have something else to list in the same Volunteer category? If no, you might do better to list it so adcomms know your plan, even though the activity will hold little weight in decision making. If yes, then maybe save it so as to have something fresh for Secondaries and update letters.