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Thanks this is such a great post and gives me hope
One of my classmates started at age 53. He is now practicing Family Medicine on a Native American reservation in South Dakota. Another friend was 52 when she started which means that both of these folks were applicants well above age 50. GWU graduated a gentleman who was 53 in the late 1990s.
University of Maryland graduated a 61 year-year-old in the late 1990s who went into family medicine. There have been reports of a couple of folks in their 60s who were able to gain admission to medical school.
It isn't so much the age as the energy level of the person and what they bring to the table. My classmate had been a very energetic minister and a graduate of Yale Divinity School before medical school. I used to run into him on the jogging trail at the end of the runway at National Airport in DC. The two of us ran on a regular basis.
I started at age 46, graduated at age 49 (turned 50 three weeks later) and now have completed General Surgery residency and Vascular Surgery fellowship. Just completed a 1 mile swim this afternoon (post call and did two cases overnight) and now planning to take my little Skyhawk out for a late afternoon flying session. It isn't the age, it's the person.
Although I will say that a couple of the allopathic programs I interviewed with were extremely rude and negative about my age....... combative, even.
Not me -- it's this friend of mine:
http://www.cvmc.org/health-care-providers/Dean-Chapman
Cool, huh?
Anyone who entered med school at age 43 whose English is not first and learned it at age 34 or beyond?
If it was only myself then I am qualified to enter the book of genesis (or whatever it's name)
okay- so now it is 2012.... and here is more information about age and medical school:Since I really won't be able to apply much before 47, I was curious about the oldest medical school applicants/students that you know...
Based on what? Your observations? Traffic on SDN? Perhaps this is a suspicion you have, not a fact? What else could it be?First, notice that the older the student, the more likely to be male.
That's one school, one MD class, n=1. C'mon, you have to do better than that if you want credibility.Second, I was 40 and the oldest student in my MS1 class. I was the ONLY older female student who was not either a PhD or a wife of a doctor.
Where's the discrimination here? You're in med school. Are they grading you on a different curve?Incidentally, I did not find medical school more challenging than anyone else, except for the discrimination that was so predominant among the doctors who taught. Much of the discrimination was from younger physicians, who (as one interviewer said to me) "would not do it again at (my) age."
No one can make you feel inferior without your consent.
Do you honestly think the younger med students don't have the same experience? Really? Why do you think such comments are about your age? A poor performance on a single exam for a board-tested subject (such as, say, GI in physio) is enough for a med school to consider remediation. Whether you're 24 or 34 or 44. The med school is responsible for your training - if you miss a chunk of time, the med school is responsible for the material you missed.Good luck-- but be tough. The worst part of age discrimination is that it is indirect much of the time. For example, I had some family illness to which I attended during medical school and had to go before the scholastic committee to address the issues. The student dean routinely began her conversations with the phrase, "She has passed her courses, but with all that has been going on, has she really learned the material?" This is a question she never would have been able to ask without the age being in everyone's minds. Afterall, I passed (and passed well, by the way.)
Are the older students mostly in DO schools?
I will be the oldest if I don't stop reading SDN and get back to Chemistry.
I just completed my 2nd year and I will soon turn 51. My next oldest classmate is 45. I have at least 3 other classmates above the age of 35.Since I really won't be able to apply much before 47, I was curious about the oldest medical school applicants/students that you know...
I just completed my 2nd year and I will soon turn 51. My next oldest classmate is 45. I have at least 3 other classmates above the age of 35.
Since I really won't be able to apply much before 47, I was curious about the oldest medical school applicants/students that you know...
My oldest was 53. Is now an ER doc in a Midwest.In about 1976, there was a retired female police officer who was accepted at age 57 to the SUNY medical school where I was clerk for adcom (she had been involved in forensics in I recall). She turned it down to attend Yale Medical. Circa 1980, there was a retired New York Judge who was accepted to a SUNY medical school at age 63. I do not have info if either graduated
okay- so now it is 2012.... and here is more information about age and medical school:
First, notice that the older the student, the more likely to be male. That is no coincidence. Society still has less trouble with older men entering professions. This is a shame, especially given statistics showing that women are more likely to spend a good part of their early lives helping others before looking after their own goals, especially if they are from the lower middle class.
Second, I was 40 and the oldest student in my MS1 class. I was the ONLY older female student who was not either a PhD or a wife of a doctor.
Incidentally, I did not find medical school more challenging than anyone else, except for the discrimination that was so predominant among the doctors who taught. Much of the discrimination was from younger physicians, who (as one interviewer said to me) "would not do it again at (my) age."
Good luck-- but be tough. The worst part of age discrimination is that it is indirect much of the time. For example, I had some family illness to which I attended during medical school and had to go before the scholastic committee to address the issues. The student dean routinely began her conversations with the phrase, "She has passed her courses, but with all that has been going on, has she really learned the material?" This is a question she never would have been able to ask without the age being in everyone's minds. Afterall, I passed (and passed well, by the way.)
This was a major medical school, people, that prides itself on accepting older students.
I would urge you to look at the past decades acceptance threads for non-trads. Look through all of that and then find a school that does not take non-trads. You might find a handful where people have not been accepted. The reality is a lot of people want a pass on terrible gpa's or mcats because of their non-trad status, and when that doesnt happen they claim it is age discrimination. Looking inwards at our own applications would probably shed more light on where the placement discrepancies occur. It is the app, not the age that is holding people back.While I agree the sometimes open discrimination against nontrads feels a little outrageous at times, the placements of qualified older students here seems to be extremely favorable.
We'd really be better off if they just openly said "we don't like older candidates, here's 50 schools who are consider being older a major plus" on their websites rather that having us plunk for interviews, secondaries, etc, when they aren't really going to take you.
I would urge you to look at the past decades acceptance threads for non-trads. Look through all of that and then find a school that does not take non-trads. You might find a handful where people have not been accepted. The reality is a lot of people want a pass on terrible gpa's or mcats because of their non-trad status, and when that doesnt happen they claim it is age discrimination. Looking inwards at our own applications would probably shed more light on where the placement discrepancies occur. It is the app, not the age that is holding people back.
I am 53 and a M2. At Nebraska.