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DVMD for official "Woman behind the curtain"
I'm a horrible public speaker.
DVMD for official "Woman behind the curtain"
Okay then, WTF for mayor, DVMD for speechwriter!
she can'tDude, DVMD, I'm trying to give you a compliment for your exceptionally well written post. Just take it.
Dude, DVMD, I'm trying to give you a compliment for your exceptionally well written post. Just take it.
I am seriously an uber shy person...
Me when I met new people:
This feels like such a plot twist...
I have trust issues and I am not super confident. I know, it seems odd, but it is the truth.
They are two of the biggest things that I know I need to "work" on and I am much better now with the "shyness" than I was say 7 years ago, but it is a work in progress.
Ah the life of an introvert...Not odd. Mildly surprising at first... but it's good to hear. I'm sure I'm not the only one on here that can relate either
I totally 100% agree with you on this. But working to help the profession certainly feels like something of a lost cause when we as individual vet students don't really get a say in whether or not new vet schools open up.Yes.
Also, while it is great that you might be ok, or your vet mentor is ok, or the vet up the road is doing ok. You should be considerate of the entire profession. You should know the challenges and obstacles that face the others within the profession. Vet med is a very small group of people and we need to work together to make it the best that it can be. Which means, it isn't necessarily about how well you are doing, or your vet friend down the road is doing, but how well the profession is doing as a whole and what problems exist and how might we be able to fix them. This way the profession can flourish and thrive instead of fizzle apart.
Okay then, WTF for mayor, DVMD for speechwriter!
The vet program in Nebraska is exploring changing their program from a 2+2 with Iowa to a 3+1 where your fourth year can be done anywhere. They want to add 25 OOS seats to start if they change the program. We had a meeting with our dean who was explaining this to us. He said that he has had no complaints about this idea at all. All of the vet students then proceeded to point out the fact that we don't need more students graduating right now. His response: "25 more students a year really won't make that much of a difference." I was kind of shocked that he would just completely ignore anything negative that people were saying about the proposed change and just blew off the idea that there currently an oversupply problem.
Dr. Richard Panzero, former president of the Arizona Veterinary Medical Association: “The fact is, there’s a long list of people willing to pay $50,000 a year to go to vet school.” That perspective marks a divide in the profession, he said. “There are people who feel this is not good for the state, and there are others who feel it will raise the overall level of practice and give needed support to those who are deserving of a degree in veterinary medicine. I just don’t know how a new graduate is going to dig out of that kind of debt to ever buy a house, let alone a practice.”
http://news.vin.com/VINNews.aspx?articleId=33755
What does it mean to "deserve a degree in veterinary medicine?"
Passionately wanting a degree in vet med so much that you are willing commit financial suicide to get it???? (Just a guess).
It reads like he knows some people who are of the opinion that there are individuals who would make great veterinarians and would somehow raise the bar for the profession but they cannot currently get into school with so few spots. Sounds like bull to me, but then again, there are some pretty um, interesting points of view on this topic.What does it mean to "deserve a degree in veterinary medicine?"
It reads like he knows some people who are of the opinion that there are individuals who would make great veterinarians and would somehow raise the bar for the profession but they cannot currently get into school with so few spots. Sounds like bull to me, but then again, there are some pretty um, interesting points of view on this topic.
"If you love animals, you will do it."
Nope. Not really sure what line of reasoning makes anyone come to that conclusion. I just don't see how someone who is completely willing to ignore massive debt somehow means that they are going to be an awesome veterinarian. I don't know who this man is talking to, but I am glad I have not met anyone with that opinion.Is 3000+ seats for like 6000 people really that few?
Nope. Not really sure what line of reasoning makes anyone come to that conclusion. I just don't see how someone who is completely willing to ignore massive debt somehow means that they are going to be an awesome veterinarian. I don't know who this man is talking to, but I am glad I have not met anyone with that opinion.
Oh yes! I somehow forgot what context was behind this and was just using simple logic instead of hidden agenda.$$$$$
As long as you advertise at Comic-Con... probably a lot.How much do you think I can make if I open up the first vet school for dragons, unicorns and other magical creatures?
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The internet felt it needed to be emphasizedI don't know why it double posted my response...
I'll apply!! I deserve a degree in magical creature medicine!How much do you think I can make if I open up the first vet school for dragons, unicorns and other magical creatures?
I'll apply!! I deserve a degree in magical creature medicine!
I hope there's a Kneazle medicine elective.
Yes, the schools' need of monies is definitely a known problem, so the issue that I have with some of the statements being made is that the argument is geared towards the students who are perceived as gaining opportunities to be in a field in which they can somehow enhance the profession. These schools/people need to stop giving false hope to the starry eyed youngins who have no idea the state Veterinary medicine is actually in. They need to say that they are attempting to bring in funds to keep education going and then have the debate of a more feasible way to address the problem of school funding. I know it will never happen, but it does get tiresome to keep kicking a profession when it's down just because there is enough naivety to hide the true reason behind more schools/increased seats etc.It's not even greed. There's a lot of backup in the pipeline that is leading to this.
State and federal funding for public universities is pretty bad right now. The schools are scrambling to make dough any way they can. Hell, you'd be surprised at the debt most large universities carry themselves (Ohio State, for example, carries over 6 billion in debt).
Not saying what they are doing is the right solution at all, and there has absolutely been a lot of misplaced university spending in terms of making themselves seem fancy and attractive to students (i.e. do we really need more gourmet dining halls, fancy sports complexes, tanning booths, spas, etc.) but there is a long history behind what we are seeing today. The solution isn't just dealing with the schools themselves, it is dealing with the lack of funding for education as a whole.
The solution isn't just dealing with the schools themselves, it is dealing with the lack of funding for education as a whole.
Threads like this are why I don't check SDN that often anymore. It makes me sad to see legislators and administrators preying on the hope of pre-vet students with no consideration of what their futures will be like.
I'm doing good! My little monster just turned 2. I have been working a lot (my boss was out for 3 weeks for medical leave leaving me in charge). Going to Florida on Thursday for a much needed long weekend with my husband's family.I miss seeing you post around here. How are you doing?
Depressingly, it might not even be that public schools need more money, it's just going to all the wrong people: http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/05/opinion/sunday/the-real-reason-college-tuition-costs-so-much.htmlDefinitely agree here, the US has the worst funding for education of anywhere.
Here's one question on the issue that I've never found an answer to: What should incoming vet students be focusing on to prepare themselves for an over-saturated market? Do things like class rank play much of a role in landing a job post-DVM?
Unless I'm mistaken, most GPs (if that's what you want to be) don't care what your rank or GPA is. They even tell us to not put it on our resume. Now residencies on the other hand.. that's a different matter.Here's one question on the issue that I've never found an answer to: What should incoming vet students be focusing on to prepare themselves for an over-saturated market? Do things like class rank play much of a role in landing a job post-DVM?