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Thanks did you go over my transcript or something?
You posted your stats. Do you want me to quote them? c3.19 and s3.05.
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Thanks did you go over my transcript or something?
You posted your stats. Do you want me to quote them? c3.19 and s3.05.
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Year BCPM AO Total
Freshman 1.50 (10 credits) 2.80 (15 credits) 2.28 (*25 credits*)
Sophomore 1.93 (14 credits) 3.38 (16 credits) 2.70 (*30 credits*)
Junior 3.15 (25 credits) 3.00 (3 credits) 3.14 (*28 credits*)
Senior 3.60 (52 credits!) 3,77 (9 credits) 3.62 (**61 credits**)
So as you can see I had a rough start in the beginning. It was mostly because I was active duty in the Infantry of the Marine Corp working (6 AM- 6 PM) shifts every weekday. I would take classes in the evenings and literally had no time to do homework but tried to stay devoted to school as much as I could (clearly did a ****ty job). According to the community college I had a 3.2 but it's showing up so low according to AMCAS because I failed Calc 1&2 simply because I was unable to do homework most of the time. Retook the classes and got A's in some of them. When I got into a 4 year school I really got my stuff together, I was out of the military and I was getting straight A's in most of my core, upper division and pre-reqs
A's in (Infectious Disease, Organic chem 1&2, Human Physiology, Physics 1 &2, Biochemistry 1&2, General Genetics, Ecology etc....). My last 30 credits have pretty much been a 3.9 GPA.
Wait, aren't you that same guy who was arguing with me earlier about the difficulty of Chemistry but you had a 3.05 sGPA as opposed to my 3.69?
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So, although I agree with you that a CC is sufficient for academic purposes, if i am ever an adcomm, I will reject any applicant whose answer to the CC question is "to save money." I will conclude that their priorities are severely mixed up.
I didn't put him down. I said he got accepted for being a veteran. His gpa was so low that he wouldn't haven't gotten in without the military. Learn to read. And no, his gpa is not higher. Mine is. Don't post where I started post my recent coursework too being the first time I took science. I'm registered for the mcat, and of course I haven't even been accepted into a DO school (who is putting who down?) Because I haven't even applied to one. You're such a sorry being.
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You're debasing the hard work and academic acheivement of others. In the end of the day you're the sorry being that will amount to nothing. You're not going to get into medical school trust me the interviewer will detect the cockiness in your attitude and laugh at the 2.77 oh wait your recent academic hardship pulled your GPA up to a 3.2? at least veterans that are serving and going to school have an excuse what was yours? were you just plain stupid? lol
Very soon you'll be proven wrong, and obviously stupid was what I was if I've kept a 3.8 (took 2 non-science) in my post-bacc, right? Lol. Thanks for putting yourself in a position where you'll soon regret.
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Let me quote it for you here we go:-
Can you explain to me how I "barely passed science classes" when my pre-req GPA is > 3.6 and I got As in upper-division science classes are you telling me getting As in Organic chems, Physics and Biochems is barely passing sciences? haha okay man whatever you say.
i don't know why this thread turned into a p... Match, but i'll put in my 2 cents
remember that you are not being judged in isolation and just based on your own credentials and qualities. Each school gets at least 3-5k or up to 10k+ applicants. Your application will be in the middle of a huge pile, and you will be compared to all the other applicants. You have to do whatever it takes to make yourself stand out and shine next to the other applicants.
You have to keep asking the question "all other things being equal" does this particular thing make me less, same, or more competitive.
All other things being equal, having your science prereqs at a cc makes you less competitive.
Cc courses are usually good for getting the 'general ed' requirements of your degree out of the way. So you take your english 101, humanities, social studies etc at cc, then transfer those credits to your 4-yr uni, and then take the science courses and other things related to your degree at the uni.
The science courses and med school prereqs are a big part of what the med schools judge you on and compare you with the other applicants. You want to do those at a good uni so your a puts you over and above the other applicants who did their prereq at a cc. If you did your other "filler" credits at the cc they won't care, but if you did your gen chem, orgo, phys, and bio at cc, then you're not going to look so hot next to the other applicants.
Just my opinion, could be wrong, do your own dd.
Unlike most people, I don't care how I get there or if what people think of how I get there. I just care about getting there to do what I want. Nice try though.Even if you do get accepted to a MD miraculously, do you really think it will be because your hard work or academic achievements? nah. It will probably be because you're a URM. Your cumulative GPA is way below what medical schools accept. How does it feel to give you a taste of your own medicine? I love how you couldn't even respond back to the Marine guy. Hey guys I'm a really helpful sdn member oh by the way I have a 3.69 and you barely passed any sciences classes lol what a douche bag.
LOL conveniently it was chemistry intensive too. Having studied MCAT Chemistry vs. College Chemistry, they are very different. College chemistry is calculation intensive and lab intensive. MCAT Chemistry is more about interpreting the general passages.Forgive me for saying a subject is easy to the almighty 3.69 being. Yes Chemistry is easy, I got A-s in both General chemistry classes and it also showed on my MCAT when I got a 12 on the Physical Sciences (which was heavy with Chemistry passages). You're trying way too hard to put me down, you've tried to do it before multiple times because I tried to help individuals out and our opinions did not match but that's okay Marines have tough skin. Either way good luck on your MCAT and application cycle. Just make sure if and when you do become a physician not to put down your patients if they disagree with you or share an opinion that is not to your liking because that my friend would defy the purpose of being a physician.
LOL conveniently it was chemistry intensive too. Having studied MCAT Chemistry vs. College Chemistry, they are very different. College chemistry is calculation intensive and lab intensive. MCAT Chemistry is more about interpreting the general passages.
Wow, harsh.
Sometimes the need to save money is huge and warranted, not everyone is living off mommy and daddy's money going to college, even if they are getting financial aid.
i.e. If you already have your Bachelors degree and are getting your prerequisites done post baccalaureate, lets say by them selves using no formal program. I know a lot of people, my self included, that would prefer to pay say $300 a class at their local community college than $4400 per class at their local university, as is the price right now around me. That's almost a $3000 savings that can be used somewhere else, like paying bills.
That's foolish. My advice for you is, stop complaining about others and focus on what you can improve about yourself, because you're wasting time/energy being hateful/jealous of others.Like you getting in with barely passing science classes because you are a veteran
This is a slightly different situation though as a traditional student who starts at a CC will go on to a 4-year to get a degree. Many nontraditional students who already have a 4-year and are following it with an informal post-bacc at at a CC. If their original 4 year was not in science, they don't necessarily have a chance for additional upper level courses. Perhaps even worse, nontrads who have some earlier mediocre premed work at a 4 year school and then do an informal CC post-bacc may not be that impressive to an adcom.
Additionally California med schools seem to accept California CC as equal to Cal State level of rigor. In New York, even though the CC's are technically part of the SUNY system, they are not viewed as highly.
Thanks did you go over my transcript or something?
Can anyone post the best CC class thread on here or does someone have the list of colleges that frown on CC classes? Yes, I know I can search or call each school individually but I don't have time for that (studying for physics and chem finals).
TriagePremed, can you explain your rationale from your last post? Were you saying it is OK to have a low GPA as long as you're a veteran? I'm not trying to stir the pot, its an honest question. Regardless even though all my pre reqs are at the CC, I'm going to get the best grades I can regardless. I have taken classes at the University and CC locally.
Through experience I found that having teachers that showed that they care meant more than driving to a University. I'm not saying that all University teachers don't care, I just got a better vibe from CC teachers. If I don't get in to a particular school because they don't like CC classes then oh well. Another reason I like the CC scene is that I feel there is more non-traditional students that I can relate to. Anyone else feel that way?
Can anyone post the best CC class thread on here or does someone have the list of colleges that frown on CC classes? Yes, I know I can search or call each school individually but I don't have time for that (studying for physics and chem finals).
I'm not saying that all University teachers don't care, I just got a better vibe from CC teachers. If I don't get in to a particular school because they don't like CC classes then oh well. Another reason I like the CC scene is that I feel there is more non-traditional students that I can relate to. Anyone else feel that way?
Can anyone post the best CC class thread on here or does someone have the list of colleges that frown on CC classes? Yes, I know I can search or call each school individually but I don't have time for that (studying for physics and chem finals).
The problem with taking such a legendary and infamous course (and premed benchmark) as O-Chem at a Community College is that there will always be an asterisk next to it on your application. On a few other threads, adcoms admit that knowledge of OChem really won't play a role in future medical practice. Instead, what I'm hearing is that the course is a quintessential hard-science that challenges even the most gifted of premed students and is a reasonably accurate indicator of how a student will handle gigantic, fast-paced hard-science lectures once in med school. If you get an A from a CC, it seems reasonable to at least wonder, "Would that be a B from a four-year?" Or if you get a B, some might think, "I wonder if he took the class at a CC since he knew he'd struggle in a larger university lecture."
Obviously, anyone who's taken a few college level classes knows that the teacher, more than anything else, determines the difficulty of a course. And by extension, if they use a relative curve, then the student intelligence will play a role as well. God knows I've received a few As from an elite liberal arts college for sleeping through class and had to work my butt off at a CC for an A in a similar class. But the general assumption is that this is the exception.
You have to ask yourself: In an insanely, ludicrously, absurdly, perhaps unfairly, and increasingly, competitive annual med school app cycle, don't you want to eliminate every opportunity an adcom might have (MIGHT have) for rejecting you? You have the choice to attend a great state system, to me it seems like an absolute no-brainer, if for no other reason than to give yourself comm-college-prejudice-insurance. Take as many as you can at the four year. Why give them any reason to choose another candidate over you?