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I was wondering, between family medicine, internal medicine, and pediatrics, which primary care specialty has the most and least competitive residency?
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Sounds about right. A lot of the top IM programs in the country require ROAD-type numbers. (then there are others that will kiss your feet for interviewing there and not being a foreign grad).
Around mid-200's Step I score and high grades.Dont know if this is considered common knowledge on SDN, but what is a ROAD type number?
Forgive me if this is common knowledge, but where can I find out the competitiveness of a specific residency program? Is there a site where residency programs are ranked based on quality/competitiveness? Thanks!
This is a really good question, and it might be hard to get reliable answers about specific programs without being in medical school and having a specialty-specific advisor, as Winged Ox said.Forgive me if this is common knowledge, but where can I find out the competitiveness of a specific residency program? Is there a site where residency programs are ranked based on quality/competitiveness? Thanks!
Competitive programs aside, and between those three fields specifically, it could be said that it is easiest to match into Internal Medicine, as it has the most positions available overall. See the numbers here: http://www.nrmp.org/data/resultsanddata2010.pdf
Around mid-200's Step I score and high grades.
Ah, good point, I didn't think about that.It is important to note the positions that remain unfilled. Family Med has more unfilled positions than peds and IM combined, so I would say family Med is less competitive.
Forgive me if this is common knowledge, but where can I find out the competitiveness of a specific residency program? Is there a site where residency programs are ranked based on quality/competitiveness? Thanks!
All are extremely uncompetitive as a whole. However they all possess higher ranked programs which are undoubtedly more competitive.
Dont know if this is considered common knowledge on SDN, but what is a ROAD type number?
Dont know if this is considered common knowledge on SDN, but what is a ROAD type number?
FM is the least competitive. below average Step Scores, very low proportion of LCME grads, very high proportion unfilled slots (comparatively)
i believe a Step I score of 240 is around the 85th percentile, roughly 40,000 people take the exam each year.
Where are you getting that percentile score? I would be interested in looking into that, because it doesn't really seem like the two digit score is a percentile rank and the two digit for a 240 would most likely be a 99.
Where are you getting that percentile score? I would be interested in looking into that, because it doesn't really seem like the two digit score is a percentile rank and the two digit for a 240 would most likely be a 99.
Yeah 2 digit scoring isn't a percentile, though many people (particularly foreign school graduates) misuse it as such.
Latest data is 221 with SD of 24. So 240 is around 80th%ile
Yeah 2 digit scoring isn't a percentile, though many people (particularly foreign school graduates) misuse it as such.
sorry for any confusion - i realize the two-digit score isn't a percentile - i was simply extrapolating the info on usmle.org (mean score is usually quoted around 215-220, SD of around 20) It seemed reasonable to assume that a 240 was around 85th percentile.
i see people here throw Step scores around an awful lot, but saying "u need 240 for the ROAD" isn't any more useful than saying "u need 31 to get in2 med skool" without some idea of what that performance represents.
Latest data is 221 with SD of 24. So 240 is around 80th%ile
Yeah, 99.9th percentile is 293 (what the... ) so assuming virtually no one gets everything right, the ceiling is probably 300 (ish.)It's crazy that a 245 is ~84th percentile. Those numbers sound like they would be in the 90th percentile at least, but you can't argue with the statistics. It also helps to determine an approximate max score for the exam, which is a lot higher than I though it was.