Orbitsurg, the only problem with you picking apart my argument is that I was not directing to you!
MilitaryMD, somehow you are under the impression that someone has to be a doctor to know anything about healthcare. Somehow spending four years in medical school will teach you everything you need to know about taking care of yourself.
I now a little something about doctors using drugs not needed. I am allergic to aspirin. My doctor at the time knowing this put me on Celebrex. I wound up in the hospital for two weeks. Ever since then I have done all I can to learn about drugs and there effect on the body. I do not have to be a doctor to know anything about drug interactions. Your not are Pharmacist, do you know everything about drugs that a Pharmacist does.
And my doctor is a charlatan? Just because I dont sit in a waiting room for an hour with people coughing all over me to see a doctor that has a surly staff and who is talking to a drug rep; and when the doctor sees me he tries to rush me out in five minutes and gives me a script for pills that are unnecessary so that he can go to a medical conference in Aruba paid for by the drug company, just because I dont go to a doctor like that my doctor is a charlatan?
My doctor was smart enough and good enough to break free form the system that you yourself think is not up to par.
Look at these stories; this is why I dont go to doctors in the system.
http://www.madison.com/wsj/mad/top/index.php?ntid=82989&ntpid=2
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/04/b...ml?ex=1147233600&en=27a30199f9128ffd&ei=5087
I researched my present doctor before I went to him. I check his credentials and the status of his license and if he had and lawsuits or complaints filled. I also look up and read all the papers he wrote for JAMA, AOA, & New England Journal of Medicine.
Orbitsburg, unfortunately quality care is something you have to pay for. Of course there are good doctors that are in the system. For my family I want the best doctor. I want a doctor I dont have to wait a month to see. I want a doctor who will take an interest in the healthcare of my family and me. I searched around. I found the best doctor I could for my family and pay what it costs. Just because someone else cant afford it does that mean I should not take advantage of a doctor I can afford.
I am in the National Guard. I served overseas and had to deal with military doctors because I was wounded! I did not go to them ask them how to lower my cholesterol. These doctors where not dealing with drug reps, old ladies talking their ears off, having to pick up their dry cleaning and wondering who will win American Idol. They were saving lives. And considering the extent of my wounds it is a miracle I am alive.
The only reason I brought up that I broker ER equipment is because it was suggested all the medical equipment in the field hospital wowed me. Here is the quote from MilitaryMD,
You got bamboozled by a bunch of people with a bunch of equipment.....that DOES NOT mean it is good healthcare....all it means is that an uneducated soldier saw a bunch of equipment he is not familiar with...being worked on by a bunch of enthusiast personnel......is that quality???? I can't say, I wasn't there to evaluate it....
This whole thread started out talking about the PROS of military medicine. There are plenty of cons. Most of those cons are what occurs in the drudgery of the Army. Pre-Iraq many of the doctors did not have the situation where the performed the kinds of things they are doing in Iraq today. The Army was not ready for what is happening today. Just like every other war after Vietnam was over the Army went back top its old ways. Officer efficiency reports and how you got along with your commanding officer was more important than your medical skills. Of course that happens in the civilian world too.
All I am saying is that our troops need doctors. I am not saying that people should make a career out of the military. I am saying is that people that are doctors at the moment who want to go the military route should if the feel that obligation. The biggest PRO is that they are saving peoples lives. The biggest CON is that they could get killed doing it.. A doctor was just killed when and RPG hit him as he was talking to his family on the phone.
I am not talking about somebody stationed at the Pediatric wad at Fort Nowhere. I am talking about taking care of soldiers that have been wounded.
Sorry MilitaryMD, it was beneath me and a cheap shot to say you were burnt out. I am sure you are a good, caring physician who only wants the best for your patients.