Psychiatry Resident Interested in Pain

[Blitz2006]

Hey guys,

So just looking for your opinion on Psychiatrists entering into pain....

1) Is it super competitive for psych residents to match into fellowship?
2) Is it difficult to crack job market for us?
3) which fellowships take psychiatrists?
4) how are reimbursements looking in the future for pain?
5) whats the job market like for pain?

I posted this before on psych forum, but thought you guys would know more as well


Thanks,

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[willabeast]

the chief of the pain program at U C Davis is a shrink.

http://www.ucdmc.ucdavis.edu/pain/ourteam/faculty/fishman.html

 

[Orin]

So is the vice chair at UPMC

http://www.pain.pitt.edu/paincontent/bios/wasan.asp

With that said,
1. probably only a few places that would consider your app because of your background, but you only need one spot.
2. depends on what you want to do, lots of places would want you for med mgmt/psych evals for implants
3. probably varies depending on who is in charge, would start with places who have faculty from psych and larger programs that can afford to have a fellow who is more of a project than the usual anes/PM&R folks
4. Likely decreasing
5. Likely will find work

 

[nvrsumr]

Bwh has a well regarded Psych pain attending

 

[DOctorJay]

Mayo does as well

 

[joshmir]

PM me for some other options

 

[101N]

Hey guys,

So just looking for your opinion on Psychiatrists entering into pain....

1) Is it super competitive for psych residents to match into fellowship?
2) Is it difficult to crack job market for us?
3) which fellowships take psychiatrists?
4) how are reimbursements looking in the future for pain?
5) whats the job market like for pain?

I posted this before on psych forum, but thought you guys would know more as well


Thanks,

Have you considered an integrative medicine fellowship as an alternative option?

 

[Blitz2006]

Have you considered an integrative medicine fellowship as an alternative option?

I haven't even heard of this. Enlighten me.

 

[101N]

IPM is not without it's detractors. Many feel that the model is broken and needs
reform.(1)

Integrative medicine, with less focus on procedures and more upon holistic care,
is probably more suited to where pain management is going.(2) Your background
in psychiatry would make you a sought after provider.


1. Clin J Pain. 2013 Apr;29(4):311-6. doi: 10.1097/AJP.0b013e3182516e64.
Pain medicine versus pain management: ethical dilemmas created by contemporary medicine and business.
Loeser JD1, Cahana A.

2. Pain Med. 2015 Jul 14. doi: 10.1111/pme.12818. [Epub ahead of print]
Core Competencies in Integrative Pain Care for Entry-Level Primary Care Physicians.
Tick H1, Chauvin SW2, Brown M3,4, Haramati A5.
Pain Med. 2015 Jul 14. doi: 10.1111/pme.12818. [Epub ahead of print]

 

[DOctorJay]

A sought after PHYSICIAN

 

[ampaphb]

Integrative medicine looks to scientifically corroborate complementary medicine techniques. It typically attracts internists, naturopaths, and homeopaths.

 

[drusso]

I haven't even heard of this. Enlighten me.

Blitz,

There are no ACGME-accredited "integrated medicine" fellowships. The term "integrated medicine" is a fancifully updated replacement for the term "alternative medicine" and both are synonymous with quackery. I would seek training from an academically-based, ACGME-accredited fellowship. There was time when a physician could become board-certified in Pain Medicine without completing an ACGME fellowship. Most of the reliable posters on this forum completed formal ACGME-accredited fellowship training.

http://www.quackwatch.com/01QuackeryRelatedTopics/altwary.html

 

[ampaphb]

Actually, I have found graduates from the University of Arizona program to have a knowledge base grounded in science

 

[Blitz2006]

Thanks for heads up. I think I'll avoid

Pain is looking pretty competitive for us psych guys, so I'm not sure.

Plus I'm not sure if I have the patience to deal with chronic pain patients...