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From my experience, I have seen many students get accepted into medical and dental schools after completing the program at Barry. It seems to be a helpful program for both pre-med/pre-dent students. So far this year, 23 of our students have been accepted into dental school and 14 into medical school.
I'm actually a current student. Will be graduating in May and starting med school in Fall.Sounds a bit like school Admin to me....
Very interested in this as wellCan someone rate Washington University in St Louis Premedical Post Bac?
With those stats, you are wasting your money and time doing MA before dental school.I have a 3.88 overall GPA/3.5 sci GPA and a 20 DAT . ...TS 20 PAT 19 AA 20
I have been accepted to the MWU Glendale MA program (9month)..and I want to apply to Dental school for the 2015 cycle which opens next week so that I can start in the fall of 2016 right after my MA ends.
Will schools dental schools not look at my app when I apply in June? Will they wait until my 1st semester ends? And am I doing myself more harm in the dental admissions cycle by doing this MA program...rather than just doing something else and applying with my current stats?
I am mainly doing the MA to prepare me for the the dental school coursework, so that I can come in with somewhat of an edge...
I'm also looking for info or a review from former students in the program. There's a big void of information as far as the Mount Sinai program is concerned. Is there anyone willing to share their experience...please?Anyone from Mt. Sinai MS in Biomedical sciences?
Can't find anyone on this forum who's done it.
The Newark MBS allows you to take Dental school classes - do the other two?between Rutgers Piscataway and Newark MBS (1 year) vs Midwestern MA (9month)
who wins? I have been accepted into both, and I live in the same city as Midwestern...which masters looks more impressive to other dental schools? Also, isn't an MA lesser of a degree than MBS?
The Newark MBS allows you to take Dental school classes - do the other two?
If not, then I think its a clear winner.
MA vs MBS is meaningless for SMPs
If you already live in they same city as midwestern's I would go there since you get in state tuition.
As Midlife said, Midwestern is private so that doesn't make sense. Also, I would argue that taking classes with dental students and attending a true SMP should be a more important factor than cost. SMPs suck for cost either way - may as well do it right the first timeMidwestern is private. No IS/OOS.
Midwestern is private. No IS/OOS.
This is probably really late, but did you end up applying to either program?Does anyone have any information on Case Western's Master of Medical Physiology or University of Northern Colorado's Master of Biomedical Sciences program?
Hi All,
Just wanted to give some info on Hofstra's post-bacc program, as I will be completing the program in a month.
I really don't think this post-bacc was in any way catered to helping me in my path to an MD/DO school. By this I mean that while I retook all of the med-school pre-reqs and got mostly As, a few A-s, I feel as though I could have done this at any school in the world. There is no specific help or guidance for post-bacc students, it was really just a continuation of my undergrad studies. So, if you live nearby, by all means do a post-bac program here, but you certainly shouldn't go out of your way to attend Hofstra's post-bacc program. Hopefully, since I did well, I'll get in to a MD or DO program, but from what I've read, it seems as though going to a Post-bacc program that is more established, or even doing an MPH or some other grad program would be preferable to this one.
1) The Pros and Cons of their program (structure of the program, learning environment, cost, location, faculty, classes, difficulty, competitiveness, other students, buildings/classrooms/facilities, etc..)
Pros: Heavy science-based curriculum, so if your science GPA is low (like mine was, you have a great chance to remedy it). Cons:I was in the class of '06, which was the second class ever, so there were tons of kinks in the program. The professors were hit or miss (really good, or downright terrible). The program director at the time was the worst ever, but she's been replaced by a great new director. The cost was reasonable compared to other post-bacc programs. The location sucks, lake shore doesn't have bars, cafes or restaurants, so be prepared to take the El any time you want to go somewhere. Competitiveness was bad, as could be imagined when you stick 50 premeds, all of whom were already rejected once, in classes together and tell them that they better get A's if they want to get in. Also, the committee letter they tell you to get isn't worth all the trouble. I just got a letter of rec from one of my professors and added it to my undergrad letters, which saved me a ton of time and stress.
2) The kinds of classes you've taken and a description.
When I took it, you took A&P both semesters (no lab), biochem, cell dev., cell bio, pharm, and neuro. 6 classes, 4 units each.
3) Something they wished they knew coming into the program
How much I was lied to about the "nurturing" environment. It's cut-throat. It's competitive. You have to sell-out if you want to be happy. Also, you're constantly encouraged to apply to DO schools, which I adamantly resisted doing.
4) Something they would like to tell incoming students about your program
MAMS loves to tout how many of its student get into medical school, but the truth is that a lot of students go to DO schools after getting rejected from allopathic schools. There's a good amount, and MAMS doesn't divulge that info. Also, Stritch doesn't take MAMS seriously, so if you're trying to get into Stritch, don't think that MAMS will do it (I didn't even apply to Stritch after I graduated even though i was guaranteed an interview, that's how little i was impressed with the school)
5) Tips for students applying to your program
Call the office and make sure you talk to someone and explain your background and situation, it helps a lot.
6) Did it help you get into medical school/dental school/etc.?
Yes, but not nearly as much as they said it would or that they think it does. Helping boost my science GPA was great, but I can do that without spending 30000 dollars. I did a ton of extra work (published a paper, did lots of community service, worked at a major biotech company), which helped me just as much if not more.
7) Anything else you'd like to add
Again, realize that the statistics MAMS uses includes students going to DO schools. So if that's not your cup of tea, stay clear.
8) A rating from 1-5 (1 being the worst (no recommendation) to 5 (full recommendation)
2. The really good professors are the only reason this isn't rated as a 1.
8 years ago. They're not here anymore.Hi, I don't see the name of your school mentioned anywhere. What is the program?
HelloAnyone familiar with Liberty University MBS program?
Hello
I will be attending the program this fall. I went to go visit the school and the medical school. It is a great program!
Email me with personal questions
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Hi, I don't see the name of your school mentioned anywhere. What is the program?
Does anyone have any reviews on:
EVMS
Cincinnatti
Georgetown
USF
UNT
Do you mind if I pm you?I can do Cincinnati briefly:
1) The Pros and Cons of their program (structure of the program, learning environment, cost, location, faculty, classes, difficulty, competitiveness, other students, buildings/classrooms/facilities, etc..)
Program is very well structured with great support. First semester you spend the first six weeks taking a graduate level course that really helps you prepare for the medical school blocks. You then take two medical school blocks to end the first semester. These courses are taken alongside the M1s, and you are are graded against the M1 average. The second semester begins with the musculoskeletal organ system block, taken alongside the M1s. This will be the first year that the SMPers will be doing the dissections. They integrate the SMP class into the medical school class, which I think is great.
The program is difficult, not gonna lie. But generally, people who put in the time do well. Because you are not graded against other SMP students, there is really no reason for competition within the Master's class. The class is very cohesive, and I know that my friends in the program really helped me get through the year. The facilities at UCCoM are fantastic - the professors are very knowledgable and they truly care about you. The advisors of the master's program really want you to succeed and they are an excellent resource. I also found that the SMP alumni at UCCoM were very willing to help in any way possible.
2) The kinds of classes you've taken and a description.
First Semester:
Graduate medical physiology 1 (graduate level course - not too difficult)
Fundamentals of Molecular Medicine (First med school block - lots of biochem)
Fundamentals of Cellular Medicine (second med school block - lots of immunology)
MSK (first organ system block taken with the medical students)
Graduate medical physiology 2 (graduate level course - not insanely difficult)
Biostatistics (not hard, but you do have to try a little)
Capstone project (most people do a literature review)
A few other seminars etc. that are easy
3) Something they wished they knew coming into the program
I wish I had spent more time seeing the city of Cincinnati during my master's year. It is a great city with a lot to do.
4) Something they would like to tell incoming students about your program
Come prepared to study. If you need an SMP to get into medical school, then this program can help you immensely. But you need to work hard to earn a good grade.
5) Tips for students applying to your program
Be genuine and succinct in the application. Talk about why you want to do the program in addition to why you want to become a physician.
6) Did it help you get into medical school/dental school/etc.?
Absolutely, it certainly helped me get into a US MD school. I had a 3.0 gpa coming in to the SMP. I don't think that I would have had a shot at MD without the program, and I really do believe that my performance in the program did help me get over the hump. If you are looking to prove that your undergrad performance does not reflect your potential, and that you can be successful in medical school, then this program will certainly give you an opportunity to show this.
7) Anything else you'd like to add
I'll try to revise and add some more things later. I just don't have a ton of time right now.
8) A rating from 1-5 (1 being the worst (no recommendation) to 5 (full recommendation)
5 no doubt.
Do you mind if I pm you?
Hi! I am new to the SDN...would you care to update how med school is going for you at IU?Okay, I need to update this for people interested in Indiana Med because I think this needs to be said. First of all, this program is beyond helpful if you plan on attending Indiana. I don't know how beneficial it is to other med schools, but I can only imagine it's just as helpful, if not more.
Why?
Because the courses you take have a HUGE impact on the courses you take in medical school. Let me give you some examples of how helpful -
Immunology - the SMP program has you take an immunology course that basically makes you beyond prepared for immunology in medical school. You're essentially getting a complete education into immunology that prepares you to succeed in what you need to know for medical school. After taking this course, you're basically more acclimated to focusing on case studies that are presented in classes because you're going to be more comfortable with the information presented. I can't speak highly enough about this course - you're getting a complete walk-through into everything you'll need to know for immunology.
Sensory Systems and Neuro Development - Combined, you'll have a ridiculous edge in Neuroanatomy. I kid you not, because you'll be more comfortable following the nerve pathways and how everything works while everyone struggles to understand what the hell is going on. Having these two courses; I'm definitely having an easier time getting with the neuroanatomy and I'm glad. You're getting information on nerve pathways that are substantially important to your education in med school and I can't thank this course enough.
I also took a course on Genetic Diseases which helped, too. This was a course that basically taught you 15-20 diseases that are genetically derived. The diseases are ones more commonly talked about and definitely helped.
Regenerative Medicine - This was a good course because it essentially made you understand/recognize/memorize/know signal pathways dealing with our bodies. Signal transduction mechanisms are a huge part of our education nowadays and I can't speak highly enough about how helpful this course was towards reinforcing my knowledge for school.
All in all; these courses definitely helped. If not to get me INTO med school, then to help me succeed greatly in med school. My only regret was not being able to take physiology while in this program, because you're basically taking the same course as med students. That would've definitely helped me in the long run. So, in essence, this program definitely deserves more recognition because it helps.
Does anyone have information/thoughts on these schools:
University of Rochester
Manhattanville College
Hofstra University
Cornell University
Fordham University