Rocky Vista University (RVUCOM) Discussion Thread 2014 - 2015

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So im thinking about what kind of updates I could send them.... but I got nothin lol

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Just found today the class of 2015 had some VERY impressive ACGME matches. I will report back when we get an official list. :)
 
RVUCOM Class of 2015
Rads at Yale. Booyah.


ACGME Match

ANESTHESIOLOGY

Prelim Year (SURG) St. Joseph Hospital SCL, CO, PGY2 U of CO SOM
U of CO SOM
U of Vermont MC
LSUHSC, Shreveport, LA
Medical College of WI
Prelim (medicine), St Joseph Hospital SCL Health, CO. PGY 2 U of CO SOM
Prelim (surgery) at St Joseph Hospital SCL Health, CO PGY2 at U of WI Hospitals and clinics

DIAGNOSTIC RADIOLOGY
U of MN Medical School
U of IL, St. Francis MC
TY PGY 1 U of SD, SSOM, PGY2 RAD, Yale, New Haven Hospital, CT
U of NM SOM
Prelim Year (SURG) Maricopa MC, Phoenix, AZ. Diagnostic RAD, U of NE, Omaha, NE
Prelim (medicine) and PGY2 at U of Kansas SOM, Wichita
Prelim (medicine) at U of NM SOM, PGY2 U of Texas Med Branch, Galveston
Prelim (Medicine) and PGY2, Legacy Emanuel/Good Samaritan, OR

EMERGENCY MEDICINE
Kaweah Delta Health Care District, CA
Baystate MC, MA
UCLA MC, CA
U of CT, SOM
U of Texas Southwestern MS, Dallas
U of Rochester/Strong Memorial, NY
U of Utah, affiliated hospitals

FAMILY MEDICINE
North CO MC, Wray
St. Anothony North Hospital, CO
Idaho State University
St. Anothony North Hospital, CO
Indiana University Health Ball Memorial Hospital
St. Anothony North Hospital, CO (84th Street)
Central Maine MC
Mercy Medical Center, Des Moines, Iowa
University of Hawaii
Valley Medical Center, WA
U of WY, Cheyenne
Vidant MC/East Carolina University, NC
U of WY, Casper
St Anthony North Hospital, CO
North CO MC

GENERAL SURGERY
Dartmouth-Hitchcock MC, Lebanon, NH

INTERNAL MEDICINE
Mercy Medical Center, Des Moines, Iowa
Akron General Medical Center, NEOMED, OH
St. Joseph Hospital SCL Health, CO
University of Hawaii
U of Cincinnati MC, OH
St. Joseph Hospital SCL Health, CO
U of AZ affiliated hospitals
St Joseph Hospital SCL Health, CO
Cleveland Clinic Foundation, OH
Oregon Health & Science University
University of SD, SSOM
U of Buffalo SOM, NY

Neurology
U of Illinois COM, Chicago
Sparrow Hospital, MI
U of Washington, affiliated hospitals

OB/GYN
St. Joseph Hospital SCL Health, CO
Kaiser Permanente, Los Angeles, CA
Baylor University MC, Dallas TX
St. Joseph Mercy, Ann Arbor, MI

PATHOLOGY
George Washington University, DC
U of IA Hospitals and Clinics
U of CO SOM

PEDIATRICS
U of Texas at Austin, Dell Medical School
U of Southern CA
Advocate Christ MC, IL
Case Western/University Hospitals Case MC, OH
INOVA Fairfax Hospital, VA
Western Michigan University, Stryker, SOM
Children's Hospital, NEOMED, OH
U of Louisville SOM, KY
Western Michigan University, Stryker, SOM
U of Louisville SOM, KY
Central Iowa Health System, Blank Children's Hospital, DM, IA
Cleveland Clinic Foundation, OH
Wright State University Boonshoft SOM, OH
UC San Francisco, Fresno, CA

PSYCHIATRY
Hennepin Co MC, MN
Texas A&M, Scott & White
U of ND SOM
Maine Medical Center
Texas A&M, Scott & White

TRANSITIONAL YEAR
Sky Ridge MC, Lone Tree, CO


AOA Match

ANESTHESIOLOGY

Grandview Hospital and Medical Center, Dayton, OH

DIAGNOSTIC RADIOLOGY
Grandview Hospital and Medical Center, Dayton, OH

EMERGENCY MEDICINE
Botsford Hospital, Farmington Hills, MI
UH Regional Hospitals, Richmond Heights, OH
Grandview Hospital and Medical Center, Dayton, OH
McLaren Oakland, Pontiac, MI
Arrowhead Regional MC, Colton, CA
Norman Regional Health System, Norman, OK
Lakeland Regional MC, St. Joseph, MI
Comanche County Memorial Hospital, Lawton, OK

FM/EM
St. Barnabus Hospital, Bronx, NY

FAMILY MEDICINE
College Medical Center, Long Beach, CA
U of WI, Dept. of FM, Madison, WI
Via Christi Regional MC, Wichita, KS
St. Mary Corwin Hospital, Pueblo, CO
Skagit Regional Health, Mount Vernon, WA
Via Christi Regional MC, Wichita, KS
(ECHN)Manchester Memorial Hospital, Manchester, CT
Central Washington FM Residency, Yakima, WA
Central Washington FM Residency, Yakima, WA

GENERAL SURGERY
Metro Health Hospital, Wyoming, MI
Des Peres Hospital, St. Louis, MO
Des Peres Hospital, St. Louis, MO
Allegiance Health, Jackson, MI

INTERNAL MEDICINE
Skagit Regional Health Center, Moutn Vernon, WA
Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO
Good Samaritan Regional MC, Corvallis, OR
Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO
Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO
Plaza Medical Center, Fort Worth, TX
Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO
Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO
Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO

ORTHOPEDIC SURGERY
Plainview Hospital, Plainview, NY
McLaren Greater Lansing, Lansing, MI

OB/GYN
Wayne County Health Authority, Detroit

PEDIATRICS
Geisinger Health System, Danville, PA

PM&R
Larkin Community Hospital, South Miami, FL

PSYCHIATRY
Larkin Community Hospital, South Miami, FL

TRADITIONAL ROTATING INTERNSHIP
PHH/Hemet Valley MC, Hemet, California
St Anthony Hospital, Oklahoma City, OK
Garden City Hospital, Garden City, MI
Inspira Health Network, Vineland, NJ

Military Match

ARMY

Family Medicine Darnall Army Medical Center, Ft. Hood, TX
Family Medicine Fort Belvoir Community Hospital, Fort Belvoir, VA
Emergency Medicine Madigan Army MC, Tacoma, WA
Diagnostic Radiology Madigan Army MC, Tacoma, WA
Psychiatry Tripler Army MC, Hawaii
Family Medicine Martin Army Community Hospital, Fort Benning, GA
Transitional Year Walter Reed (NCCWR), Bethesda, MD
Psychiatry Tripler Army MC, Hawaii
Emergency Medicine Darnall Medical Center, Ft. Hood, TX
Family Medicine Martin Army Community Hospital, Fort Benning, Columbus, GA
Psychiatry Walter Reed (NCCWR), Bethesda, MD
NAVY
Transitional Year Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, VA
Anesthesia Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, VA
Internal Medicine Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, VA
General Surgery Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, VA
AIR FORCE
General Surgery David Grant Medical Center, Travis AFB, CA
Ophthalmology San Antonio Military MC (SAUSHEC) Fort Sam Houston, TX
Ophthalmology San Antonio Military MC (SAUSHEC) Fort Sam Houston, TX
Pediatrics Walter Reed (NCCWR), Bethesda, MD
General Surgery Keesler AFB, Biloxi, MS
Neurology San Antonio Military MC (SAUSHEC) Fort Sam Houston, TX
 
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RVUCOM Class of 2015
Rads at Yale. Booyah.


ACGME Match

ANESTHESIOLOGY

Prelim Year (SURG) St. Joseph Hospital SCL, CO, PGY2 U of CO SOM
U of CO SOM
U of Vermont MC
LSUHSC, Shreveport, LA
Medical College of WI
Prelim (medicine), St Joseph Hospital SCL Health, CO. PGY 2 U of CO SOM
Prelim (surgery) at St Joseph Hospital SCL Health, CO PGY2 at U of WI Hospitals and clinics

DIAGNOSTIC RADIOLOGY
U of MN Medical School
U of IL, St. Francis MC
TY PGY 1 U of SD, SSOM, PGY2 RAD, Yale, New Haven Hospital, CT
U of NM SOM
Prelim Year (SURG) Maricopa MC, Phoenix, AZ. Diagnostic RAD, U of NE, Omaha, NE
Prelim (medicine) and PGY2 at U of Kansas SOM, Wichita
Prelim (medicine) at U of NM SOM, PGY2 U of Texas Med Branch, Galveston
Prelim (Medicine) and PGY2, Legacy Emanuel/Good Samaritan, OR

EMERGENCY MEDICINE
Kaweah Delta Health Care District, CA
Baystate MC, MA
UCLA MC, CA
U of CT, SOM
U of Texas Southwestern MS, Dallas
U of Rochester/Strong Memorial, NY
U of Utah, affiliated hospitals

FAMILY MEDICINE
North CO MC, Wray
St. Anothony North Hospital, CO
Idaho State University
St. Anothony North Hospital, CO
Indiana University Health Ball Memorial Hospital
St. Anothony North Hospital, CO (84th Street)
Central Maine MC
Mercy Medical Center, Des Moines, Iowa
University of Hawaii
Valley Medical Center, WA
U of WY, Cheyenne
Vidant MC/East Carolina University, NC
U of WY, Casper
St Anthony North Hospital, CO
North CO MC

GENERAL SURGERY
Dartmouth-Hitchcock MC, Lebanon, NH

INTERNAL MEDICINE
Mercy Medical Center, Des Moines, Iowa
Akron General Medical Center, NEOMED, OH
St. Joseph Hospital SCL Health, CO
University of Hawaii
U of Cincinnati MC, OH
St. Joseph Hospital SCL Health, CO
U of AZ affiliated hospitals
St Joseph Hospital SCL Health, CO
Cleveland Clinic Foundation, OH
Oregon Health & Science University
University of SD, SSOM
U of Buffalo SOM, NY

Neurology
U of Illinois COM, Chicago
Sparrow Hospital, MI
U of Washington, affiliated hospitals

OB/GYN
St. Joseph Hospital SCL Health, CO
Kaiser Permanente, Los Angeles, CA
Baylor University MC, Dallas TX
St. Joseph Mercy, Ann Arbor, MI

PATHOLOGY
George Washington University, DC
U of IA Hospitals and Clinics
U of CO SOM

PEDIATRICS
U of Texas at Austin, Dell Medical School
U of Southern CA
Advocate Christ MC, IL
Case Western/University Hospitals Case MC, OH
INOVA Fairfax Hospital, VA
Western Michigan University, Stryker, SOM
Children's Hospital, NEOMED, OH
U of Louisville SOM, KY
Western Michigan University, Stryker, SOM
U of Louisville SOM, KY
Central Iowa Health System, Blank Children's Hospital, DM, IA
Cleveland Clinic Foundation, OH
Wright State University Boonshoft SOM, OH
UC San Francisco, Fresno, CA

PSYCHIATRY
Hennepin Co MC, MN
Texas A&M, Scott & White
U of ND SOM
Maine Medical Center
Texas A&M, Scott & White

TRANSITIONAL YEAR
Sky Ridge MC, Lone Tree, CO


AOA Match

ANESTHESIOLOGY

Grandview Hospital and Medical Center, Dayton, OH

DIAGNOSTIC RADIOLOGY
Grandview Hospital and Medical Center, Dayton, OH

EMERGENCY MEDICINE
Botsford Hospital, Farmington Hills, MI
UH Regional Hospitals, Richmond Heights, OH
Grandview Hospital and Medical Center, Dayton, OH
McLaren Oakland, Pontiac, MI
Arrowhead Regional MC, Colton, CA
Norman Regional Health System, Norman, OK
Lakeland Regional MC, St. Joseph, MI
Comanche County Memorial Hospital, Lawton, OK

FM/EM
St. Barnabus Hospital, Bronx, NY

FAMILY MEDICINE
College Medical Center, Long Beach, CA
U of WI, Dept. of FM, Madison, WI
Via Christi Regional MC, Wichita, KS
St. Mary Corwin Hospital, Pueblo, CO
Skagit Regional Health, Mount Vernon, WA
Via Christi Regional MC, Wichita, KS
(ECHN)Manchester Memorial Hospital, Manchester, CT
Central Washington FM Residency, Yakima, WA
Central Washington FM Residency, Yakima, WA

GENERAL SURGERY
Metro Health Hospital, Wyoming, MI
Des Peres Hospital, St. Louis, MO
Des Peres Hospital, St. Louis, MO
Allegiance Health, Jackson, MI

INTERNAL MEDICINE
Skagit Regional Health Center, Moutn Vernon, WA
Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO
Good Samaritan Regional MC, Corvallis, OR
Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO
Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO
Plaza Medical Center, Fort Worth, TX
Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO
Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO
Parkview Medical Center, Pueblo, CO

ORTHOPEDIC SURGERY
Plainview Hospital, Plainview, NY
McLaren Greater Lansing, Lansing, MI

OB/GYN
Wayne County Health Authority, Detroit

PEDIATRICS
Geisinger Health System, Danville, PA

PM&R
Larkin Community Hospital, South Miami, FL

PSYCHIATRY
Larkin Community Hospital, South Miami, FL

TRADITIONAL ROTATING INTERNSHIP
PHH/Hemet Valley MC, Hemet, California
St Anthony Hospital, Oklahoma City, OK
Garden City Hospital, Garden City, MI
Inspira Health Network, Vineland, NJ

Military Match

ARMY

Family Medicine Darnall Army Medical Center, Ft. Hood, TX
Family Medicine Fort Belvoir Community Hospital, Fort Belvoir, VA
Emergency Medicine Madigan Army MC, Tacoma, WA
Diagnostic Radiology Madigan Army MC, Tacoma, WA
Psychiatry Tripler Army MC, Hawaii
Family Medicine Martin Army Community Hospital, Fort Benning, GA
Transitional Year Walter Reed (NCCWR), Bethesda, MD
Psychiatry Tripler Army MC, Hawaii
Emergency Medicine Darnall Medical Center, Ft. Hood, TX
Family Medicine Martin Army Community Hospital, Fort Benning, Columbus, GA
Psychiatry Walter Reed (NCCWR), Bethesda, MD
NAVY
Transitional Year Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, VA
Anesthesia Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, VA
Internal Medicine Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, VA
General Surgery Naval Medical Center, Portsmouth, VA
AIR FORCE
General Surgery David Grant Medical Center, Travis AFB, CA
Ophthalmology San Antonio Military MC (SAUSHEC) Fort Sam Houston, TX
Ophthalmology San Antonio Military MC (SAUSHEC) Fort Sam Houston, TX
Pediatrics Walter Reed (NCCWR), Bethesda, MD
General Surgery Keesler AFB, Biloxi, MS
Neurology San Antonio Military MC (SAUSHEC) Fort Sam Houston, TX

Do you know what percentage matched?
 
Do you know what percentage matched?
Per Dean Told, 100%! :)

Also, "We matched in some great places and some places that had never had Osteopathic Graduates before."

Which is amazing. :banana:
 
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Do any current students at RVU know of research opportunities to get involved in through either RVU or CU? I know the Medical Scientist track is up and running now, so if someone on here is involved in that and would be willing to share their experience it'd be awesome if you could PM me or respond here! If it helps - I'm not dead set on pursuing any specific speciality, but in the past the research I've been involved in that I have enjoyed has included: ergonomics, sedentary behaviorism, exercise physiology, exercise training effects on cognition, and older adults (60+). Anyone know of any labs interested in any of these topics? :D
 
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Do any current students at RVU know of research opportunities to get involved in through either RVU or CU? I know the Medical Scientist track is up and running now, so if someone on here is involved in that and would be willing to share their experience it'd be awesome if you could PM me or respond here! If it helps - I'm not dead set on pursuing any specific speciality, but in the past the research I've been involved in that I have enjoyed has included: ergonomics, sedentary behaviorism, exercise physiology, exercise training effects on cognition, and older adults (60+). Anyone know of any labs interested in any of these topics? :D

You will get more responses if you ask on the facebook page. The mentors on the page answer questions very quickly and throughly
 
You will get more responses if you ask on the facebook page. The mentors on the page answer questions very quickly and throughly
Ha, will do. Now my anonymity will be gone forever.
 
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Hey! I'm entering in the class on 2019 and we just received our initial book list. Rather than typing out the list- I was hoping to have some current RVU students comment on which books they found to be helpful/worth purchasing. I would really appreciate the feedback! :)
 
Hey! I'm entering in the class on 2019 and we just received our initial book list. Rather than typing out the list- I was hoping to have some current RVU students comment on which books they found to be helpful/worth purchasing. I would really appreciate the feedback! :)
Congratulations on getting in for the class of 2019! Are you on the class's facebook page yet? The mentors do a really good job of answering questions, and this question has been asked and answered on there! Here's the link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/586365828130904/
 
Dear future colleagues/student doctors!

Just wondering if anyone found a link to RVUCOM scholarships for this year? All I could find were last year's listings on the RVUCOM webpage with past deadlines. Thanks guys!
 
Wow, went through the pages associated with this thread and I am very interested in RVUCOM ! So does anybody know how big of a deal it is if you are IS or OOS? I assume they also do grade replacement?
 
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Wow, went through the pages associated with this thread and I am very interested in RVUCOM ! So does anybody know how big of a deal it is if you are IS or OOS? I assume they also do grade replacement?
I'm OOS and there doesn't seem to be any bias at all! And yes, grade replacement is used here as far as I know!
 
I'm OOS and there doesn't seem to be any bias at all! And yes, grade replacement is used here as far as I know!
Thanks for the reply! Will definitely be keeping tabs on RVUCOM.
 
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Firstly, take your name out of your post. This is an anonymous forum & you've now revealed your real name.

Secondly, use the FB group in order to find housing mates, this forum is open to the general public & again, privacy is important.
 
Dear future colleagues/student doctors!

Just wondering if anyone found a link to RVUCOM scholarships for this year? All I could find were last year's listings on the RVUCOM webpage with past deadlines. Thanks guys!

The scholarships have been the same every year.

Wow, went through the pages associated with this thread and I am very interested in RVUCOM ! So does anybody know how big of a deal it is if you are IS or OOS? I assume they also do grade replacement?

Aacomas does grade replacement, & they send your info to the schools.
 
Hello guys,
Interviewed early October. Alternate List. 26 mcat. 3.85 GPA. Do u guys think I have a good chance of being pulled off the waitlist???

cedarjet
 
Hey Guys! I was curious if some current or new students could answer some questions for me about the school! I love the campus and the people, just have a few more questions:

How many cadavers are there per student? Is the Anatomy Lab accessible 24/7?
Is there any type of histology lab? Or do students just look at pictures of slides?
Are all the lectures recorded and placed online for students to watch if they miss class?
Is it easy to set up a research experience at another University? Is it hard to find the time to get to the lab to work since it is not on campus.
Are EPA's integrated in the curriculum?
How valuable is the library and is there a large number of texts available online? What are the hours of access?

Thanks so much in advance! Rocky Vista was my first interview, so I wasn't aware what I wanted to ask yet.
 
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Hey Guys! I was curious if some current or new students could answer some questions for me about the school! I love the campus and the people, just have a few more questions:

How many cadavers are there per student? 1 cadaver per 8 students (two labs of 4 each) Is the Anatomy Lab accessible 24/7? For the most part, but not before tests.
Is there any type of histology lab? No, not a physical lab, just images Or do students just look at pictures of slides?
Are all the lectures recorded and placed online for students to watch if they miss class? Yes, for the most part
Is it easy to set up a research experience at another University? Is it hard to find the time to get to the lab to work since it is not on campus. Uncertain, depends on the university
Are EPA's integrated in the curriculum? ???EPA???
How valuable is the library and is there a large number of texts available online? What are the hours of access? There is a fair amount of books available online and through the library. Enough so that the only texts that have previously been needed are Robbins, and the anatomy texts. Hours I believe are like 7am-Midnight, sometimes earlier if there's bad weather or holidays.

Thanks so much in advance! Rocky Vista was my first interview, so I wasn't aware what I wanted to ask yet.
 
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Hey Guys! I was curious if some current or new students could answer some questions for me about the school! I love the campus and the people, just have a few more questions:

How many cadavers are there per student? 1 cadaver per 8 students (two labs of 4 each) Is the Anatomy Lab accessible 24/7? For the most part, but not before tests.
Is there any type of histology lab? No, not a physical lab, just images Or do students just look at pictures of slides?
Are all the lectures recorded and placed online for students to watch if they miss class? Yes, for the most part
Is it easy to set up a research experience at another University? Is it hard to find the time to get to the lab to work since it is not on campus. Uncertain, depends on the university
Are EPA's integrated in the curriculum? ???EPA???
How valuable is the library and is there a large number of texts available online? What are the hours of access? There is a fair amount of books available online and through the library. Enough so that the only texts that have previously been needed are Robbins, and the anatomy texts. Hours I believe are like 7am-Midnight, sometimes earlier if there's bad weather or holidays.
Thanks so much in advance! Rocky Vista was my first interview, so I wasn't aware what I wanted to ask yet.

You are awesome! Thanks so much! EPA's are Entrustable Professional Activities. I saw an article saying that RVU was considering incorporating it into the curriculum.
 
I have no idea. If they're considering something you should ask the admissions people
 
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I was placed on the alternate list back in November and I just received a call from admissions saying I was accepted! I hope the rest of you who are waiting get good news soon!
 
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Accepted also!! Just gave up pnwu!!
 
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Does anyone have recommendations on apartment complexes with affordable studios/1BR? I'm looking at the list provided by the school, but I was wondering if current students had any additional insight. Thank you!
 
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Does anyone have recommendations on apartment complexes with affordable studios/1BR? I'm looking at the list provided by the school, but I was wondering if current students had any additional insight. Thank you!

How far away are you willing to live?
 
How far away are you willing to live?

I will be bringing my car, but I'd still like to live as close as possible. I think something that's about a 15 min drive to school would be the farthest I'd consider because I don't want to be too far away from the school during my first year. With that said, I'm brand new to the area, so if this sounds crazy/uninformed please feel free to let me know!
 
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I will be bringing my car, but I'd still like to live as close as possible. I think something that's about a 15 min drive to school would be the farthest I'd consider because I don't want to be too far away from the school during my first year. With that said, I'm brand new to the area, so if this sounds crazy/uninformed please feel free to let me know!

Not crazy or uninformed at all! But basically, if you don't want to have roommates, and want to live closer than ~20 minutes from school then 1 bedrooms are likely to cost $900-1000 in rent. Last I looked, I couldn't find any studios closer than 20 minutes away. And the ones I did find were sketchy.

I think one of my upperclassmen said she had rented a reasonably priced condo near school she found on craigslist, so consider checking that, but I had no luck myself.
 
Not crazy or uninformed at all! But basically, if you don't want to have roommates, and want to live closer than ~20 minutes from school then 1 bedrooms are likely to cost $900-1000 in rent. Last I looked, I couldn't find any studios closer than 20 minutes away. And the ones I did find were sketchy.

I think one of my upperclassmen said she had rented a reasonably priced condo near school she found on craigslist, so consider checking that, but I had no luck myself.


Thank you for your help!
 
If you look in Aurora near Parker Rd and Quincy, you can find some stuff that is cheaper. Unfortunately right now rent in the Denver area is ridiculous...
 
For those of you considering RVU I just wanted give you all a heads up. I am currently at the end of my 3rd year here at RVU and there has been some recent changes with our admin that is really concerning.

1 week ago they told our class they were changing graduation requirements to 86 hours between the 3rd and 4th year from 78, which puts many students in jeopardy of not graduating. They are also decreasing the allowable non-clinical rotations by 8 credit hours, essentially extending our required rotations by 4 total months. They told us this information 6 weeks before we are beginning our fourth year. Unfortunately the administration has been reluctant to accept much feedback or change with this topic, and it is causing a lot of uproar within our class.

RVU is a good school and is getting better, but they are not as accepting to feedback as I once believed and was told when applying. They are cut throat with their policies and if you try to stand for something you do not think is right, they will not hesitate to write you up for unprofessional conduct and potentially make you repeat a year or kick you out.

With this new information, unless they change their current policies, as a current student I have to recommend that you do not apply or come to RVU. Everyone has their own opinion, but I wanted to share mine before you start spending 50k a year on a school that is reluctant to input, and jeopardizing their senior class graduating. As it currently stands, most students will not be able to take transit time between rotations without enrolling in an online course, and will also have to forfeit their school assigned breaks to meet graduation requirements.

Good luck in your application process.
 
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I was accepted a few weeks ago (!!!), and I was just wondering if there's any kind of acceptance letter/packet that we get mailed to us? Or, if it is just the email version!! No big deal, but I've been wondering!

Also, to anyone applying this upcoming cycle (because come next winter you may be going through any thread you can find during the dreaded waiting time..haha), I didn't turn in my secondary until the first part of Feb, interviewed later in Feb, got placed on the lovely alternate list...fast forward ~2 months, accepted. So! If you find this school to be interesting, then go for it and apply and don't get discouraged because things that may surprise you may happen in the cycle!!!
 
I was accepted a few weeks ago (!!!), and I was just wondering if there's any kind of acceptance letter/packet that we get mailed to us? Or, if it is just the email version!! No big deal, but I've been wondering!

Also, to anyone applying this upcoming cycle (because come next winter you may be going through any thread you can find during the dreaded waiting time..haha), I didn't turn in my secondary until the first part of Feb, interviewed later in Feb, got placed on the lovely alternate list...fast forward ~2 months, accepted. So! If you find this school to be interesting, then go for it and apply and don't get discouraged because things that may surprise you may happen in the cycle!!!

There is no acceptance packet! I don't think I got one of those from any school. Just the email. But congrats!
 
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For those of you considering RVU I just wanted give you all a heads up. I am currently at the end of my 3rd year here at RVU and there has been some recent changes with our admin that is really concerning.

1 week ago they told our class they were changing graduation requirements to 86 hours between the 3rd and 4th year from 78, which puts many students in jeopardy of not graduating. They are also decreasing the allowable non-clinical rotations by 8 credit hours, essentially extending our required rotations by 4 total months. They told us this information 6 weeks before we are beginning our fourth year. Unfortunately the administration has been reluctant to accept much feedback or change with this topic, and it is causing a lot of uproar within our class.

RVU is a good school and is getting better, but they are not as accepting to feedback as I once believed and was told when applying. They are cut throat with their policies and if you try to stand for something you do not think is right, they will not hesitate to write you up for unprofessional conduct and potentially make you repeat a year or kick you out.

With this new information, unless they change their current policies, as a current student I have to recommend that you do not apply or come to RVU. Everyone has their own opinion, but I wanted to share mine before you start spending 50k a year on a school that is reluctant to input, and jeopardizing their senior class graduating. As it currently stands, most students will not be able to take transit time between rotations without enrolling in an online course, and will also have to forfeit their school assigned breaks to meet graduation requirements.

Good luck in your application process.
Well that makes me feel great!
 
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Well that makes me feel great!

I would hesitantly say not to worry about it too much. I don't know much about 4th year so I'm afraid I can't really comment on the potentially unpleasant new changes, but I can tell you that at that point, it's unrealistic to expect the school to totally bend its plan around student feedback. They're pretty decent about reshaping things in respond to feedback in the first couple years, because it's very easy to do at that point, and they're still babying us for the first couple years. Unfortunately, the closer we get to our careers, the more the attitude of superiors will shift to "We have determined this is the best course of action and if you don't like it then screw off." In most hospitals I'm familiar with, that's practically the mission statement. I absolutely believe soondoc's complaint that they're stubborn, but it's probably not realistic to expect otherwise from any school in the later portion of medical education.

It is really hard to believe the school would strictly enforce changes that would make a bunch of students not graduate. That would be a good thing for no one. But I dunno, any given third year would know more about that than me. Writing someone up for unprofessional conduct for disagreeing with the policy might be a really unfair move depending on how someone stood up for what they think is right.
 
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Students have been brought into the "principal's office" for some incredibly stupid reasons. Any dissension about the school will land you in an office. I know students who have been written up for FB posts that were vague & the school decided they were about faculty.
What is being said is currently true. We'll see what happens as the students are trying to have things made more reasonable. I should add that the timelines are pretty tight, you have 94 weeks to complete 86 credits. That is including 3 weeks of 3rd year break times. So you have 91 weeks to complete the 86 credits, soooo if you wanted time off for interviews tooooo bad... You have to realize that schools don't use the same calendars & you may have gaps between rotations... Weeeee fun... So don't get pregnant...
 
Are these things that would have changed your mind about going to rvu or its all worth dealing with? Let's hear some good things about the school?!?
 
Students have been brought into the "principal's office" for some incredibly stupid reasons. Any dissension about the school will land you in an office. I know students who have been written up for FB posts that were vague & the school decided they were about faculty.
What is being said is currently true. We'll see what happens as the students are trying to have things made more reasonable. I should add that the timelines are pretty tight, you have 94 weeks to complete 86 credits. That is including 3 weeks of 3rd year break times. So you have 91 weeks to complete the 86 credits, soooo if you wanted time off for interviews tooooo bad... You have to realize that schools don't use the same calendars & you may have gaps between rotations... Weeeee fun... So don't get pregnant...


Yikes. That's pretty unfortunate. Under the current system how many interviews do you think you'd be able to attend with the time constraints?
 
I'm just a first year that will be investigating these issues come tomorrow, but I'd urge people who will be entering in the fall not to freak out. I will let you know what I hear, and I am hoping just like you are that there are no crazy awful issues but please don't pull your acceptance or anything because someone said something on the Internet, whether or not it may be true.
 
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I had to let you all know. As an upcoming 4th year, we will have to schedule our interviews during rotations, or time off during rotations/clerkships/sub-I's, which will definitely limit the interview process. We are still able to attend audition rotations, and actually required to do 3, but this is only so many out of the potential interviews. Most of the seniors already had plans to take a month off for board studying and interviews, which was recommended by faculty. Most of these plans are now thwarted due to the new changes 2 weeks ago.

Don't make any harsh decisions about medical school due to my word of caution. I just want you all to be aware that RVU isn't as good as I hoped it would be and it was made out to be when I was applying. A large portion of my class would agree. We have been thrown "last minute" changes to the curriculum many times throughout our 3 years without warning, for them to change it back or change it again for the next year. Not only has this turned most of us a little bitter towards RVU, they won't listen to us. They act like our feedback as a class doesn't exist and will send the same email/notification multiple times just to make a point it is staying the same - without explaination.

We've been told these new changes are due to federal funding requirements by the admin, but no other schools have had changes like this. Federal funding requirements haven't changed in quite some time. Make what you want of that.



Some good things: location location location, curriculum, board scores, most faculty, one of the best match lists I've seen from an DO school. I used to be a huge proponent of this school, and told many people to apply/come here due to those things. I can no longer say the same, and am actually pretty sorry I led so many people to come here. Unfortunately, now I just want to graduate and go somewhere else, along with many of my classmates - which they are not making easy.

If I were to go back in time and know these things could happen, like change graduation requirements in the last year for a class (6 weeks prior), I would not have come to this school. They have repeatedly changed our breaks, requirements, added new "barriers" to our curriculum, and changed the grading guidelines for clinical rotations, almost seemingly haphazardly, most without any explanation or possibly even lies to try to tide us over.

I would urge you to contact admissions or the school if you have questions about it, but be careful. As I said earlier - RVU can and will watch for students that may give any resistance of change - and could write you up for it - but highly unlikely as a prospective applicant.
I totally understand your frustration and I wasn't able to stop by clinical affairs or admissions today to chat and investigate, but just to play devil's advocate, did you not know things were prone to change attending a school as new as RVU as one of the first few graduating classes?

From my own experience, the school has been amazing at taking feedback and making appropriate changes. I have seen time and time again that they listen to us and change curriculum as we have suggested. I can't imagine that things would make a complete 180 in 3rd and 4th year. I may be wrong, but I just can't see it.
 
I totally understand your frustration and I wasn't able to stop by clinical affairs or admissions today to chat and investigate, but just to play devil's advocate, did you not know things were prone to change attending a school as new as RVU as one of the first few graduating classes?

From my own experience, the school has been amazing at taking feedback and making appropriate changes. I have seen time and time again that they listen to us and change curriculum as we have suggested. I can't imagine that things would make a complete 180 in 3rd and 4th year. I may be wrong, but I just can't see it.

The school has taken feedback for 1st and 2nd year. We're too early in this stuff for 4th year to make a decision about what is going to actually transpire... The reps are talking with the admin, and we're asking questions about what's really going...

Honestly, it has been a 180 from my point of view. The first 2 years they took feedback after each course and did make appropriate changes. I knew there would be change as a new school, but not this drastic. I expected a little more slow and less sporadic, such as instituting it for the upcoming/incoming class, giving them time to plan their lives and know about the changes before dropping them.

We are in medical school, but people live life during medical school too. What RVU doesn't seem to do is consider the latter, especially the last 2 years. For example: If I were pregnant, and planned on maternity leave during my 4th year, I would be absolutely unable to graduate, or forfeit that leave at this point. If it were next month, I would have an extremely hard time finding a rotation in that time, and the school is limited on rotation spots as it is. If I had a job during medical school and laid out my year for planning, I would be in a jam. If I planned my family reunion during Christmas and now cannot attend due to using my weeks for transition time to drive across the country to my required sub-internships, I wouldn't be able to attend.

Most residency programs allow you to request leave and make schedule blocks a year in advance. Usually graduation requirements are set from the time you enter the institution.

This isn't preparing us for residency, it is being completely oblivious to the entire classes already laid plans. As an example: If you were in undergrad, this is the equivalent of the school requiring you to do 16 extra credit hours before you are able to graduate, but they let you know immediately before your senior year, and you are taking courses all over the country. They also haven't considered housing costs, or travel costs in our loans to encompass the new changes.

This isn't about them changing things, change is good, it's about the way they institute the changes.

So there are definitely some misconceptions in this post. 1. If a person took medical or maternity leave, they had their credit hour requirements decreased accordingly. 2. The school had the expectation that we would be doing rotations all of fourth year, not taking 5 months of 'non-clinical' work where they take 2-3 month European vacations. The federal government audits our school and apparently some of these students were causing some waves in our record. We now have 2 months of non-clinical time above and beyond the study month we're encouraged to take. They want people to use their non-clincal time to fill in between audition rotations, and many of the new graduates did interviews while on audition rotations. There is still 5 weeks of 'off' time (meaning doesn't need to be any rotation, clinical or non) that can be used in the 4th year. As to the point about 'preparing us for residency', please explain how taking 5mo off prepares a person for residency? You know in March where you match. You have more than 3 months to pack, find a place, etc. Yes, you won't have everyday to do things, but most people in the world don't, suck it up. Preparing for residency should have to do with becoming a better physician in training, not time to move, or pack, or whatever.
 
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The school has taken feedback for 1st and 2nd year. We're too early in this stuff for 4th year to make a decision about what is going to actually transpire... The reps are talking with the admin, and we're asking questions about what's really going...



So there are definitely some misconceptions in this post. 1. If a person took medical or maternity leave, they had their credit hour requirements decreased accordingly. 2. The school had the expectation that we would be doing rotations all of fourth year, not taking 5 months of 'non-clinical' work where they take 2-3 month European vacations. The federal government audits our school and apparently some of these students were causing some waves in our record. We now have 2 months of non-clinical time above and beyond the study month we're encouraged to take. They want people to use their non-clincal time to fill in between audition rotations, and many of the new graduates did interviews while on audition rotations. There is still 5 weeks of 'off' time (meaning doesn't need to be any rotation, clinical or non) that can be used in the 4th year. As to the point about 'preparing us for residency', please explain how taking 5mo off prepares a person for residency? You know in March where you match. You have more than 3 months to pack, find a place, etc. Yes, you won't have everyday to do things, but most people in the world don't, suck it up. Preparing for residency should have to do with becoming a better physician in training, not time to move, or pack, or whatever.
This was incredibly encouraging, thank you!
 
It is important to note that yes, these changes were made. I could post the email, but it's a moot point. The fact is they made changes for a reason, and it is being discussed, this may or may not be set in stone. The admin I've talked to said no one he knows of is at risk of not graduating. This needs to be addressed: there are tons of docs that the school uses JUST for fourth year rotations. The docs don't take 3rd years, they want people who can already take a reasonable history and do a reasonable physical. They don't want to show you that stuff, they want to show you increased clinical knowledge. After speaking with him I am far less worried about any of this. Maybe it won't be as cush for us as previous years, but it's still going to be manageable...
 
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