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What year are you?
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Probably just the drain unless you REALLY hate working with patients and the material.
Also, working in real life is different than school.
So I've had this feeling for a while now - the fact that this route may not necessarily be for me. But I ignored it and pushed it away and kept justifying my feelings. Here's the thing. They're not changing - I am getting withdrawn and completely losing who I once was. I'm not sure if it's just the school environment or the actual field or the stress of having constant projects/assignments/exams hanging over my head, but my theory is if I'm surrounded by people with whom I do not click with now, these are the people who will be entering the field, so I may be miserable for the rest of my career.
I don't want to throw away all the hard work that I put myself through, but I have this treacherous feeling that I am in the wrong profession.
I'm not really sure what I'm asking here, but do most of you feel comfortable where you are? (Not considering the workload, but I mean just enjoying patient contact and your colleagues.)
I'd say of all things, "clicking" with colleagues is about the last thing to determine if a field is right for you. If anything, it probably just means you are a school that's a less than ideal fit for you. It happens and it's not a huge deal.
Truth be told, the end of second year is for most people, the lowest point of medical school. It's at the end of a grueling process, you have Step I hanging over your head and the next step (wards) is a big unknown - which makes it difficult to be excited about. It WILL get better. Not quite right away, but soon, trust me.
Haha thats the problem. Im just finishing up second year.. it gets better from here... Hopefully
You got into it for a reason, and more than likely when you have time to actually focus on something other than path/pharm blah blah blah, that reason will come back to you. Second year kills some people, i just see it as one hell of a horrible bump in an already bumpy road.
So everyone who keeps telling second years that third year is better is full of ****. Major cow sized ****. Sorry its longer hours, you still have to study and now people yell at you and treat you badly. Secondly you're finally exposed to the fast black hole that is medical politics, and of course insurance bull****. So honestly I can say if you don't find year one and year two to be good, third year is not the saving grace others say it is. It's just "different".
Today (Monday) I was yelled at for instance for not coming in on a Sunday to read the OR schedule. Because obviously I should take my one day off and come back to the hospital, I mean what was I thinking?
Probably about trying to have a life...
So I've had this feeling for a while now - the fact that this route may not necessarily be for me. But I ignored it and pushed it away and kept justifying my feelings. Here's the thing. They're not changing - I am getting withdrawn and completely losing who I once was. I'm not sure if it's just the school environment or the actual field or the stress of having constant projects/assignments/exams hanging over my head, but my theory is if I'm surrounded by people with whom I do not click with now, these are the people who will be entering the field, so I may be miserable for the rest of my career.
I don't want to throw away all the hard work that I put myself through, but I have this treacherous feeling that I am in the wrong profession.
I'm not really sure what I'm asking here, but do most of you feel comfortable where you are? (Not considering the workload, but I mean just enjoying patient contact and your colleagues.)
I thought 1st and 2nd year were the best years of all, but you may feel differently. In the first 2 years you get to hang out with your buddies all day. We'd drink beer in the afternoon and play poker. That doesn't happen anymore because everyone is on different schedules and at different locations during 3rd and 4th years.
Not to scare the OP or anything, but I also agree with the above poster. You get treated very well in the first two years, then in the second two, you get yelled at every day. Fun!
So everyone who keeps telling second years that third year is better is full of ****. Major cow sized ****. Sorry its longer hours, you still have to study and now people yell at you and treat you badly. Secondly you're finally exposed to the fast black hole that is medical politics, and of course insurance bull****. So honestly I can say if you don't find year one and year two to be good, third year is not the saving grace others say it is. It's just "different".
Today (Monday) I was yelled at for instance for not coming in on a Sunday to read the OR schedule. Because obviously I should take my one day off and come back to the hospital, I mean what was I thinking?
Probably about trying to have a life...
second
second
third year is terrible, especially if you already have an idea of what you want to do going into it.
third year is terrible, especially if you already have an idea of what you want to do going into it.
So I've had this feeling for a while now - the fact that this route may not necessarily be for me. But I ignored it and pushed it away and kept justifying my feelings. Here's the thing. They're not changing - I am getting withdrawn and completely losing who I once was. I'm not sure if it's just the school environment or the actual field or the stress of having constant projects/assignments/exams hanging over my head, but my theory is if I'm surrounded by people with whom I do not click with now, these are the people who will be entering the field, so I may be miserable for the rest of my career.
I don't want to throw away all the hard work that I put myself through, but I have this treacherous feeling that I am in the wrong profession.
I'm not really sure what I'm asking here, but do most of you feel comfortable where you are? (Not considering the workload, but I mean just enjoying patient contact and your colleagues.)
MedChic-
Have no idea how I stumbled upon this thread, but your post hit a lil' soft spot in me and made me come out of a 3 year SDN hiatus. First off, I'm really sorry you're feeling like this. I hope you get it all sorted out. I'm a 3rd year now, and I've felt that way for a big chunk of my time in med school. The things you're talking about- feeling 1 dimensional in life, not being able to let the BS go, feeling like you're surrounded by people of a different breed of people, etc.... If its any comfort you're not alone.
I don't know your debt situation, but if you can financially afford to leave, and have a solid plan B, then now is the time to do it. Don't wait. In retrospect, and knowing what I know now, I would've gone the PA route in a heartbeat. But I can't as I'm too deep in debt now. Don't get me wrong, its a privilege to be a medical student, and I'm still quite happy, but I never imagined my life being this 1-dimensional. Theres a lot more out in life, and it scares to hell out of me to think I might wind up like some of these surgeons who live in the hospital except when they take their yearly 2 week week 'vacation in can' trip to appease the family.
And I will say this: it got a lot better in 3rd year for me, and hopefully it will for you too if you decide to stick it out. I think just simply not being surrounded by other medical students and working with a broader group of people made all the difference. Nurses are fun people. As are patients. So have confidence in yourself no matter what road you end up taking.
And finally, if you do press on, pick a specialty that lets you see some daylight and doesn't attract the egos. Anesthesia, Rads, Psych, EM, Family, PM&R, are all good ones off the top of my head.
Good Luck!
Thanks for this advice. This has been on of the recurring themes for me in med school--that of feeling like I don't fit in, and simply don't have a big enough ego to be here. So if I am hearing you correctly, it gets better when you don't have to be around med students all the time? Wherever I go I seem to get along with everyone *except* med students. From the nurses all the way to the janitors, I'm fine with them.
Thanks for this advice. This has been on of the recurring themes for me in med school--that of feeling like I don't fit in, and simply don't have a big enough ego to be here. So if I am hearing you correctly, it gets better when you don't have to be around med students all the time? Wherever I go I seem to get along with everyone *except* med students. From the nurses all the way to the janitors, I'm fine with them.
For me it definitely got better when I started working around a broader group of folks. It seemed there was a lot more to hang your hat on and find satisfaction in vs. just living from test score to test score and feeling like you're reliving high school part deux.
And sure you're pretty much useless as a third year med student in the wards (or at least I am!) .... but having a sense of humor about it and rolling with the punches helps. Appreciating the small stuff- shootin' the chit with patients, getting to sew up a lac in the ED, etc... Its fun. And its certainly is more fulfilling to me than the first two years. I had some dark days back then.
But definitely take what I say with a grain of salt...as it seems a lot of others on here have a different perspective as well. Overall I'd say I probably came off a little harsh in my earlier tone, but a good chunk of medical students can be some of the biggest brown nosing, narcissistic, uninteresting folks out there. I think someone said it well earlier...remember that they are not why you're there. Sounds like you can carry a conversation and get along with a diverse array of folks, and in my opinion that's half of doing well in 3rd year.
PS- Portland Rocks! Hang on to that location while you can!
MedChic-
Have no idea how I stumbled upon this thread, but your post hit a lil' soft spot in me and made me come out of a 3 year SDN hiatus. First off, I'm really sorry you're feeling like this. I hope you get it all sorted out. I'm a 3rd year now, and I've felt that way for a big chunk of my time in med school. The things you're talking about- feeling 1 dimensional in life, not being able to let the BS go, feeling like you're surrounded by people of a different breed of people, etc.... If its any comfort you're not alone.
I don't know your debt situation, but if you can financially afford to leave, and have a solid plan B, then now is the time to do it. Don't wait. In retrospect, and knowing what I know now, I would've gone the PA route in a heartbeat. But I can't as I'm too deep in debt now. Don't get me wrong, its a privilege to be a medical student, and I'm still quite happy, but I never imagined my life being this 1-dimensional. Theres a lot more out in life, and it scares to hell out of me to think I might wind up like some of these surgeons who live in the hospital except when they take their yearly 2 week week 'vacation in can' trip to appease the family.
And I will say this: it got a lot better in 3rd year for me, and hopefully it will for you too if you decide to stick it out. I think just simply not being surrounded by other medical students and working with a broader group of people made all the difference. Nurses are fun people. As are patients. So have confidence in yourself no matter what road you end up taking.
And finally, if you do press on, pick a specialty that lets you see some daylight and doesn't attract the egos. Anesthesia, Rads, Psych, EM, Family, PM&R, are all good ones off the top of my head.
Good Luck!
If debt is not an issue for you and you can walk away now, you should seriously consider it. The exclusiveness that medicine has established in your life will not end. It will be a constant struggle to stay abreast the rest of the world. It will continue to be difficult to know how to socially interact about things outside of medicine. It is possible, but it is something that has too be worked on, like a job of its own.
If you see that you can enjoy something else in your life... leave now. Don't look back. Enjoy it. One of the over riding lessons I have seen in medicine is how other people live their lifes, and in the world of psychiatry I ask on a regular basis to suicidal people "what do you live for?". The answers to that question are always family, friends, and loved ones. The things in life that bring happiness and bring joy are not exclusive to a career in medicine - it can be found else where and more readily.
Pursue happiness and what brings you peace. Anything else is just pissing away your life. Think hard and long. Walking away is not a failure, but the first day of the rest of your happy life. Think about it. Listen to your inner self.
Hmm-probably the school may not be the best fit. Mine wasn't either but I liked 1st and 2nd year. 3rd year sucks big time though.
For everyone who hates third year....why? why does it suck so much?
Enlighten me
There is no way to summarize all the things that are wrong with it. I know that the major source of all my discontent lies in the fact that I am a reserved, introverted person and this personality is punished big time. Some major examples I can think of...For everyone who hates third year....why? why does it suck so much?
Enlighten me
I truly hope 3rd year is less like high school
I'm a 1st year and I feel the same as the OP, like certain parts of my brain are atrophied. I feel like I am no longer able to experience optimism about the future, trust my intuition, perform dynamic problem solving, or even interact with people in a normal way. It's kind of like being tortured with no hope of escape. Eventually you just withdraw and become vacant. The "awkwardness" mentioned by the OP, to me, is the manifestation of this withdrawal. I just question how readily I will bounce back, if at all.
... I'm pretty sure everyone knows fourth year is pretty sweet.
Why do people always say that? Fourth year was definitely sweet, but also pretty challenging, at least prior to the match. It's not a walk in the park that some may make it out to be.