The point is, going back to the "Why don't we make as much as human doctors" garbage is this..you are currently GROSSLY OVERPAID for the services you provide. $80k/yr for someone who supposedly "loves animals" only to tell pet owners "pay this price, (which you adjust at your leisure, btw) or we either have to take your animal, or kill them"...yeh...good job. Feel satisfied? Great. Why do you create several quotes, show the owner the higher of the two or three, and when the owner freaks out, meekly show them the lower estimate? Your profession is as sick as the poor animals you treat, then kill. That's why you don't make large sums of cash, most people don't get paid to kill their patients, and neither do you..rightfully so. End of story.
Lulz. I think you're possibly the biggest idiot who's come in here trying to make an argument out of completley ignorant, egotistical, and uninformed wisps of poor information. Just because you're a human doctor does not give you any right to come in here and generalize the whole veterinary profession and label everyone a "killer" and "overpaid" and berate us for what we do. Your words are so wrong, so uninformed, and make me so SAD that there's people like you out there who deliberatley try to give the veterinary profession a bad name. Maybe it's jealousy, maybe you're sick inside, maybe you had a really bad experience with a vet and you're just a stick in the mud, or maybe you're really just as narrowminded as you seem.
I will now proceed to pick apart your tantrum one bit at a time.
you are currently GROSSLY OVERPAID for the services you provide.
No. An animal comes into the emergency clinic, having been hit by a car. The animal needs it's hind leg reconstructed with intensive surgery, fluids, pain meds, a surgical specialist, radiographs, anestesia, and needs to spend time in the ICU. This will run you, on average, depending on the exact services, maybe 2,000-4,000 US dollars. KEEP IN MIND that veterinarians obtained a medical degree that cost just as much as a MD, and their time is worth a lot. The fluids, meds, equipment, etc, all function the same as human devices and thus run about the same price as human medical equipment. ICU time is about $200 a night for 24 hour supervision. Now...let's say a human gets in a car wreck and breaks a leg. They need the same thing - an ambulance ride, special surgery, time in the ICU, meds, radiographs, etc. Except wait...hold on...let's think about this for a second...the total costs are going to run you WELL OVER 100,000 dollars. So you can't tell me that veterinarians are being overpaid for what we do, if anything we are grossly underpaid because we have to pay the same for our equipment/meds as a human clinic would, but WE don't exploit our patients simply because they're humans. Your argument makes no sense whatsoever, it's just laughable. How can you sit at your computer and try to tell us that we're being overpaid when doctors are making the big bucks because they treat humans and thus the cost of a night at the ICU runs at 10,000 dollars? The services are obviously not worth that, it's simply increased because they're catering to people and they're working through INSURANCE. Ever heard of that? Pets don't have the luxury of insurance (most, anyways), so unfortunately the owners have to shoulder the cost. Vets try and recoup as much of it as they can, but in the long run a lot of clinics barely make any profit due to the expenses spent versus the amount charged. Not to mention we are offering a public service, so the veterinarians need to make a living SOMEHOW. Most vets don't have yachts or belong to country clubs or own nice homes, yet all the docors I've met are gone quite frequently because they're on vacation. So don't you DARE try and trivialize our services when it's known how exploitative the human medical industry is. I won't even start on podiatry, I'm sure you charge an insane amount from your clients just to LOOK at a foot. I think you're the hypocrite here.
$80k/yr for someone who supposedly "loves animals" only to tell pet owners "pay this price, (which you adjust at your leisure, btw) or we either have to take your animal, or kill them"
Yes. Yes, because all veterinarians secretly hate animals and went through 4+ years of extensive schooling and have dedicated their lives to animals because they only "supposedly" love animals, you're SO right. I forgot, my bad! Maybe YOU got into podiatry because you're just a greedy money driven person, but veterinarians actually become veterinarians because they love animals and want to help them. Don't think that your reasons for being in the medical profession are the only ones, some people actually have compassion and actually care deeply for their patients. You wouldn't know because, well, you're obviously ignorant and are just bent on generalizing. How many human medical specialists decline a patient because they can't pay for the services? Have a growth growing out of your nose, but don't have insurance and can't fork over 1,000 dollars to have it biopsied? Too bad, we need your money before we can actually look at you. There are so many people out there right now without their prescriptions or without urgent medical care because they can't afford it, they are turned away and are sick and suffering. Majority of vet clinics are willing to work out payment plans or try their hardest to reduce cost, and again it comes back to the fact that most vet clinics barely make a profit. So shut your mouth before you spew your hypocritical vomit all over us, it's disgusting and you should be ashamed.
or we either have to take your animal, or kill them
Ummm...I have no idea what you mean. Yes, a veterinarian will take and animal to look at it, what else do you expect? And it's not like if an owner can't pay that the veterinarian will snatch the animal and kill it, lol!!! There are other options, you know, and vets will often refer owners elsewhere, offer secondary treatment options, quality of life, etc. You're so out in space with this one...it just makes me wonder what you're on.
Your profession is as sick as the poor animals you treat, then kill.
*Yawn* You're boring me now, can't you think of a better insult to try and throw out at us? This one is just pathetic. Treat an animal then kill it? I've never heard of that happening, unless the patient relapses or crashes or whatnot. Vets will treat an animal, and if the owner cannot pay, then something will be worked out. It often means the clinic loses money. But a clinic will never treat an animal, then kill it. It goes against the Veterinary Oath, and it's ridiculous of you to even suggest that, as it's simply not true. Vets can't legally euthanize an animal without cause, and lack of payment is not one of those causes. Plain and simple, you're lying, trying to give the profession a bad name because of whatever hidden hatred you have for us. I personally think you're jealous, or maybe you got rejected from vet school. I say good riddance, someone like you should not be allowed in the medical field.
most people don't get paid to kill their patients
Aaaaannnnddd...neither do vets, since that's what you're trying to imply. Vets get paid for the medical services they provide, which includes cost of equipment, medicines, staff, vet time, etc. The veterinary profession is a legitimate medical service, and the costs associated with it are extraordinarily similar to human medical services. So likewise, we get paid for those services, just like human doctors. Euthanizing is a sad service that unfortunatley is part of the job, just like patients die in human medicine.
And I won't even get into your bit about "join a shelter, they actually help animals unlike other vet practices!!1!1!eleventy one, durrrrr". It's too stupid to even consider.
And I'd really like to taunt you about how exploitative human medical specialties are (oh, say, like podiatry, chiropractic services, cosmetic services, etc), but I honestly think you really do know how manipulative those practices are, because why else would you be trying to make yourself feel better than by spamming a veterinary forum with completley unbased judgments?
Thanks for the laughs, I love being able to analyze the reasons why the veterinary profession is so great, and you really gave me a good reason to do so.
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