Sexual past matters for women, but not men

[jl lin]

You can't manipulate a 16 year old into having sex with you lol. That's such a myth... Most 16 year olds are repulsed by guys who are older with the exception of highly attractive ones.


Yes but who has considerable fame and power? Celebrities.... who else? No one. Therefore it is an irrelevant factor.

OMG, that is totally untrue. Teen girls are manipulated or worse, all the time--world over. For the manipulation part, all you need is a weak family foundation and poor self-esteem, which is abundantly found in even the prettiest young girls. How do you not know this?

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00223980209604820#.VZwffWCIVlI


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1740144503000081


http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/bul/115/3/424/

1. There are no gender differences in depression rates in prepubescent children, but, after the age of 15, girls and women are about twice as likely to be depressed as boys and men. In this article, 3 models for how gender differences in depression might develop in early adolescence are described and evaluated. According to Model I, the causes of depression are the same for girls and boys, but these causes become more prevalent in girls than in boys in early adolescence. According to Model 2, there are different causes of depression in girls and boys, and the causes of girls' depression become more prevalent than the causes of boys' depression in early adolescence. According to Model 3, girls are more likely than boys to carry risk factors for depression even before early adolescence, but these risk factors lead to depression only in the face of challenges that increase in prevalence in early adolescence. Evidence for the variables most commonly thought to contribute to gender differences in depression in children and adolescents is reviewed, and this evidence is related to the 3 models for how these differences develop. It is concluded that Model 3 is best supported by the available data, although much more research is needed. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2012 APA, all rights reserved)-->http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/bul/115/3/424/

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[Mad Jack]

False

http://aspe.hhs.gov/hsp/08/sr/statelaws/summary.shtml

Keep in mind there's a world outside USA and 16 is what most of the world follows as well (ex. Canada, Europe, etc.)

I said states. What I said was not false, this is America, and in America, we generally hope old dudes that have sex with sixteen year olds go to prison.

 

[Hustler101]

OMG, that is totally untrue. Teen girls are manipulated or worse, all the time--world over. For the manipulation part, all you need is a weak family foundation and poor self-esteem, which is abundantly found in even the prettiest young girls. How do you not know this?

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/00223980209604820#.VZwffWCIVlI


http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1740144503000081


http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/bul/115/3/424/

1. There are no gender differences in depression rates in prepubescent children, but, after the age of 15, girls and women are about twice as likely to be depressed as boys and men. In this article, 3 models for how gender differences in depression might develop in early adolescence are described and evaluated. According to Model I, the causes of depression are the same for girls and boys, but these causes become more prevalent in girls than in boys in early adolescence. According to Model 2, there are different causes of depression in girls and boys, and the causes of girls' depression become more prevalent than the causes of boys' depression in early adolescence. According to Model 3, girls are more likely than boys to carry risk factors for depression even before early adolescence, but these risk factors lead to depression only in the face of challenges that increase in prevalence in early adolescence. Evidence for the variables most commonly thought to contribute to gender differences in depression in children and adolescents is reviewed, and this evidence is related to the 3 models for how these differences develop. It is concluded that Model 3 is best supported by the available data, although much more research is needed. (PsycINFO Database Record (c) 2012 APA, all rights reserved)-->http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/bul/115/3/424/

How does that lead to a 30 year old seducing a 16 year old?

 

[deleted480308]

I said states. What I said was not false, this is America, and in America, we generally hope old dudes that have sex with sixteen year olds go to prison.

I know of a few that made a stop for a few weeks in the hospital first

 

[Mad Jack]

You can't manipulate a 16 year old into having sex with you lol. That's such a myth... Most 16 year olds are repulsed by guys who are older with the exception of highly attractive ones.


Yes but who has considerable fame and power? Celebrities.... who else? No one. Therefore it is an irrelevant factor.




No heterosexual single male with a normal sex drive would reject sex from any of those girls I posted.

I won't even hit on undergrads because they look like children to me, let alone a damn teenager. They aren't attractive to me, they look like little girls, not women.

 

[Hustler101]

I said states. What I said was not false, this is America, and in America, we generally hope old dudes that have sex with sixteen year olds go to prison.

And based on the law that generally won't be the case. If an old dude has sex with a 16 year old chances are high that the girl is a prostitute claiming to be 18. Old dudes carry the lowest sexual market value in society lol.

 

[Mad Jack]

And based on the law that generally won't be the case. If an old dude has sex with a 16 year old chances are high that the girl is a prostitute claiming to be 18. Old dudes carry the lowest sexual market value in society lol.

By old I mean 30+, not elderly.

 

[jl lin]

You can't manipulate a 16 year old into having sex with you lol. That's such a myth... Most 16 year olds are repulsed by guys who are older with the exception of highly attractive ones.


Yes but who has considerable fame and power? Celebrities.... who else? No one. Therefore it is an irrelevant factor.




No heterosexual single male with a normal sex drive would reject sex from any of those girls I posted.

They most probably would like to, "hit that" in the vernacular. That's not the point. Some level of hopefully maturity and improved development in judgment, which in general is seen more after the age of 20, should dissuade intelligent, well-read, wise people from getting tangled up in that. So, it's a sound judgment issue. Of course we expect those that participate here to have that more mature level of judgment, such that posting teenies in bikinis makes us say, "Um....creepy." LOL I mean at some point of maturation past 20, one hope that whether male or female, a person will have grown to the point of seeing problems in objectifying people, sexually speaking--especially in objectifying those in the pediatric crowd. LOL

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

The biggest problem with the age debate is that most guys have a very skewed view of what an actual 16 year old girl looks like. We are used to televisions shows, movies, porn, etc that regularly cast people in their 20s to play teenagers. If that's what you are constantly inundated with, that is what you will believe the majority of them look like.

 

[Hustler101]

I won't even hit on undergrads because they look like children to me, let alone a damn teenager. They aren't attractive to me, they look like little girls, not women.

How dare a guy find someone like this attractive

They should only be attracted to women who look like this

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

What is with this deleting posts bull****. Stand by what you say or don't say it.

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

Using an extreme example with a very unflattering picture of an older woman in no way validates sexually pursuing underage girls and/or naive barely-legals as a grown man.

 

[Hustler101]

By old I mean 30+, not elderly.

My 18-20 year old female friends say they're repulsed when a 30 year old male hits on them.

The biggest problem with the age debate is that most guys have a very skewed view of what an actual 16 year old girl looks like. We are used to televisions shows, movies, porn, etc that regularly cast people in their 20s to play teenagers. If that's what you are constantly inundated with, that is what you will believe the majority of them look like.

Whenever I drive by a high school my mind is blown by how old and developed the girls look.

 

[Hustler101]

Using an extreme example with a very unflattering picture of an older woman in no way validates sexually pursuing underage girls and/or naive barely-legals as a grown man.

You're saying she should be more desirable than a hot 16-18 year old?

High school was the best time of my life simply because of the sex with girls in that age bracket. Females simply become less attractive every single year and guys aren't far behind either.

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

My 18-20 year old female friends say they're repulsed when a 30 year old male hits on them.


Whenever I drive by a high school my mind is blown by how old and developed the girls look.

Because they are trying to look like said people in the movies and shows. They are not actually as developed, especially in terms of emotional maturity, as a 25-year-old. It's not wrong to find young girls physically attractive. It is wrong to overtly sexualize them and pursue them when there is such a massive difference in maturity.

 

[Hustler101]

Because they are trying to look like said people in the movies and shows. They are not actually as developed, especially in terms of emotional maturity, as a 25-year-old. It's not wrong to find young girls physically attractive. It is wrong to overtly sexualize them and pursue them when there is such a massive difference in maturity.

If you read my posts you'd realize that sex with an underage girl only happens if she really wants the guy badly. In which case she'll go out of her way to lie about her age (like the examples I know + more). Otherwise an older guy seducing a 17 year old would be the biggest waste of time.

 

[Mad Jack]

How dare a guy find someone like this attractive

They should only be attracted to women who look like this

So you're telling me you'd take a high school girl over someone like this? Dude, that's mad creepy. You probably need to clear your browsing history pretty often with tastes like that.

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

Evidently he drives by high schools ogling 14-18 year olds. Are you really surprised?

 

[jl lin]

You're saying she should be more desirable than a hot 16-18 year old?

High school was the best time of my life simply because of the sex with girls in that age bracket. Females simply become less attractive every single year and guys aren't far behind either.

First the woman in your example above is quite attractive IMHO. Many of the teenies in bikinis may well not look as attractive as this woman in a few years.

The HS statement and the one the follows it totally screams of a pediophilic tendency on your part. Sorry, but I am just saying. Looks like you will have a small window for sexual attractiveness to most females after 20. So does that mean the longest relationship you will have will be around 4 years--w/ those that have less than optimal frontal load development, in general? Dude, good luck with that. LOL. You are "trolling-ly" hilarious.

 

[Hustler101]

So you're telling me you'd take a high school girl over someone like this? Dude, that's mad creepy. You probably need to clear your browsing history pretty often with tastes like that.

1) Edited picture

2) Outlier in looks (that's a 9-10... unrealistic for 99% of guys)

3) Extensive cosmetics work hiding any signs of aging


But no I don't find underage girls more attractive.. I don't even pursue nor try to meet underage ones. Their personality is very unappealing to me. I'm simply talking about men in general.

Evidently he drives by high schools ogling 14-18 year olds. Are you really surprised?

It's on route.

 

[Mad Jack]

If you read my posts you'd realize that sex with an underage girl only happens if she really wants the guy badly. In which case she'll go out of her way to lie about her age (like the examples I know + more). Otherwise an older guy seducing a 17 year old would be the biggest waste of time.

There's plenty of older guys who seduce teenagers over the internet. There's whole blogs dedicated to taking them down and their convictions. I love how the only world that seems to exist to you is the things you have directly observed though, because clearly you have experienced every possible scenario and are some omnipotent Casanova of the playground.

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

But no I don't find her more attractive than underage girls lol.

This statement. WTF.

 

[Hustler101]

This statement. WTF.

Typo. lol.

 

[Mad Jack]

1) Edited picture

2) Outlier in looks (that's a 9-10... unrealistic for 99% of guys)

3) Extensive cosmetics work hiding any signs of aging


But no I don't find her more attractive than underage girls lol. I don't even pursue nor try to meet underage ones. Their personality is very unappealing to me. I'm simply talking about men in general.


It's on route.

So you're saying you're actually a pedophile but don't act on it, and you assume that literally every other guy is wired the same as you? Dude, I'm not gonna lie, you're pretty messed up. Like, you should take a step back and ask yourself if maybe you're the outlier here.

 

[Hustler101]

There's plenty of older guys who seduce teenagers over the internet. There's whole blogs dedicated to taking them down and their convictions. I love how the only world that seems to exist to you is the things you have directly observed though, because clearly you have experienced every possible scenario and are some omnipotent Casanova of the playground.

You realize those are just old guys sitting around masturbating while posting about such things right?

Your typical guy has trouble getting laid with an average girl with every resource (ex. tinder, clubs/bars, okc, etc.) at his disposable. Believe me 3/10 45 year olds are not having sex with hot 16-17 year olds lol.

 

[Hustler101]

So you're saying you're actually a pedophile but don't act on it, and you assume that literally every other guy is wired the same as you? Dude, I'm not gonna lie, you're pretty messed up. Like, you should take a step back and ask yourself if maybe you're the outlier here.

I said that's a typo and that I don't pursue underage chicks. Is that difficult to understand?

 

[jl lin]

Plus, most quality potential mates will turn the other way when they see you are a "hit it and quit it" kind of guy. I can't help but feel badly for you. The only thing that stops me from doing so somewhat is the probability that you are in total troll-mode.

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

Dude, you don't think the pictures of 14-17 year old girls all over the internet aren't heavily edited with filters, etc by the girls themselves?

And they they use cosmetics to and clothes to make themselves look older?

And that in real life they don't look like that - they are KIDS? I mean FFS half of them are still running around in braces and still think penises are gross.

Again, we are not talking about older men like 45 vs 16. Most 16 year olds can at least see those danger signs. We are talking about guys in their mid to late 20s trying to pick up high schoolers, usually because they are too emotionally or socially stunted to pick up women in their own age bracket.

 

[jl lin]

I said that's a typo and that I don't pursue underage chicks. Is that difficult to understand?

Well, you are clearly not interested in any other kind, so. . .you are bitter about being alone????? Has to be trolling.

 

[Hustler101]

Plus, most quality potential mates will turn the other way when they see you are a "hit it and quit it" kind of guy. I can't help but feel badly for you. The only thing that stops me from doing so somewhat is the probability that you are in total troll-mode.

Yea true but how often do you come across a quality woman who's single? The demand is very high for females who show lots of positive qualities.

Dude, you don't think the pictures of 14-17 year old girls all over the internet aren't heavily edited with filters, etc by the girls themselves?

And they they use cosmetics to and clothes to make themselves look older?

And that in real life they don't look like that - they are KIDS? I mean FFS half of them are still running around in braces and still think penises are gross.

Again, we are not talking about older men like 45 vs 16. Most 16 year olds can at least see those danger signs. We are talking about guys in their mid to late 20s trying to pick up high schoolers, usually because they are too emotionally or socially stunted to pick up women in their own age bracket.

14-15 is a different world in terms of biological development. Your typical hot 16 year old is sexually active and only has sex with older guys if she actively tries to meet them. Anything else is an exception... That's what you're not understanding.
Picking up a girl that young is brutally difficult for a guy in his mid 20s vs. going on a date with someone in his age own bracket.

Regardless I was just making a joke about the whole "political correctness" behind attractiveness.

 

[Hustler101]

Well, you are clearly not interested in any other kind, so. . .you are bitter about being alone????? Has to be trolling.

Personally I like the 19-21 age bracket.

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

Reddit or 4chan must be down or something and all the sludge is spilling in here.

I don't even know why I try.

 

[Mad Jack]

You realize those are just old guys sitting around masturbating while posting about such things right?

Your typical guy has trouble getting laid with an average girl with every resource (ex. tinder, clubs/bars, okc, etc.) at his disposable. Believe me 3/10 45 year olds are not having sex with hot 16-17 year olds lol.

How attractive the 30, 35, or whatever the age the guy is happens to be doesn't matter, nor does the appearance of the child in question. Wrong, creepy, and illegal don't change because you're attractive and preying on children. Many of these guys take advantage of girls that lack a father figure in their life or have serious mental or self esteem issues. Your two dimensional view of the world is quite disgusting.

Reminds me of studentpox all over again, ugh.

 

[Mad Jack]

Yeah, probably best to just use the ignore button at this point. Trolls are a waste of my time, and if the guy is serious, he'll probably be doing time in Federal for downloading some questionable material in no time anyway.

 

[Hustler101]

Yeah, probably best to just use the ignore button at this point. Trolls are a waste of my time, and if the guy is serious, he'll probably be doing time in Federal for downloading some questionable material in no time anyway.

That's a pretty offensive thing to say brah.

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

How attractive the 30, 35, or whatever the age the guy is happens to be doesn't matter, nor does the appearance of the child in question. Wrong, creepy, and illegal don't change because you're attractive and preying on children. Many of these guys take advantage of girls that lack a father figure in their life or have serious mental or self esteem issues. Your two dimensional view of the world is quite disgusting.

Reminds me of studentpox all over again, ugh.

Honestly, I'm pretty sure it s studentpox. With all the number system, obsessions with ratings, facial aesthetics arguments....all that is missing is talking about how ripped etc. he is

 

[Rogert]

Using an extreme example with a very unflattering picture of an older woman in no way validates sexually pursuing underage girls and/or naive barely-legals as a grown man.

For the record, I thought the one on the bottom was prettier

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

She's a pretty woman, but I bet there are many better pictures of her.

The one on the top with the horrible cakes of makeup looked like a combination of a Bratz doll and a Pokemon, I'll give you that.

 

[WhtsThFrequency]

Yea true but how often do you come across a quality woman who's single? The demand is very high for females who show lots of positive qualities.

Gotta snag 'em when they're young.

Real young.

 

[Hustler101]

Gotta snag 'em when they're young.

Real young.

 

[Mad Jack]

Gotta snag 'em when they're young.

Real young.

It's funny that he thinks you can find girls with anything resembling a personality at that age. Most people haven't developed the traits that make them who they are until they're at least 22-25, hence why teenagers and undergrads should be so unappealing to anyone who actually gives a damn what is going on upstairs with the person they're dating.

Then again, with his stat obsession, maybe he does look at women like Pokemon- gotta catch as many as you can, and when you get a good one, you train it

 

[Hustler101]

It's funny that he thinks you can find girls with anything resembling a personality at that age. Most people haven't developed the traits that make them who they are until they're at least 22-25, hence why teenagers and undergrads should be so unappealing to anyone who actually gives a damn what is going on upstairs with the person they're dating.

Then again, with his stat obsession, maybe he does look at women like Pokemon- gotta catch as many as you can, and when you get a good one, you train it

You won't someone many attractive and appealing people who are single at that age.
Professional schools are a great example. Speaking of which weren't you a med student?

 

[WildZoo]

Why do we have a lot of sexless marriages?

Cherry picking this for fun, but that particular trope is overstated. You've been watching too many movies.

 

[deleted480308]

Cherry picking this for fun, but that particular trope is overstated. You've been watching too many movies.

I'm with wildzoo on this...Not sure which "we" hustler is referring to but my marriage is doing just fine

 

[NeedToStudy]

How did we go from women like players to they don't like virgins to maybe they do to....... pedophilia? WTF is up with this thread? I'm beginning to think you all secretly planned this.

BTW I'm 27 and I don't mind dating a girl as long as she is 18 or above and has graduated high school. I wouldn't mind dating college girls.

 

[Gwenevre]

You can't manipulate a 16 year old into having sex with you lol. That's such a myth... Most 16 year olds are repulsed by guys who are older with the exception of highly attractive ones.

Bull. ****.

 

[NeedToStudy]

So you're telling me you'd take a high school girl over someone like this? Dude, that's mad creepy. You probably need to clear your browsing history pretty often with tastes like that.

I'm totally drooling at this picture. BTW there are some pretty hot women in their 30's. Behold

 

[WildZoo]

I definitely should have left this thread when the friend zone thing started. Could have saved me a lot of horrified reading.

 

[Gwenevre]

I'm in between upset I didn't drop in earlier and horrified at all the absolute **** this guy's posted since then.

 

[NeedToStudy]

I'm in between upset I didn't drop in earlier and horrified at all the absolute **** this guy's posted since then.

And to believe I actually considered reading the whole conversation. It seemed like too much work so I just skipped to page 11.