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For those of you who have already inked contracts, just curious what this year's grads are starting at.
Hours/week?
Thanks
Hours/week?
Thanks
I don't think many people are going to tell the world their salaries. I know I certainly wouldn't. You may get some working conditions and benefits information, but I doubt anything much more specific than that. Besides, salary is region and hospital specific, so it will vary. Look at the averages that have been posted on several other threads and just figure some people get more, some get less.
Erm, well, isn't this forum already anonymous anyway???
4 people I know, although these salaries are without consideration of benefits.
Academic job in the southeast: 160K
Academic job in the northeast: 145K
Community job midwest: 220K
Community job Midatlantic coast: 245K
Becoming (being) a physician is such a weird job. First, you have to pay someone else many thousands of dollars per year for at least eight years. Then, you work long, stressful hours for a relatively low income that is absolutely non-negotiable. Even if you work twice as hard as your fellow residents, bill more, and have more successful outcomes, you can't ask for a raise. Also while you're working those long hours in residency, you can't take a sick day unless you're near death, and even then you may be expected to come in. You're shunned if you quit your job or switch to a different specialty.
Then, once it comes time to be an attending and make a real salary, guess what-- the actual salary is a big secret!! It's very difficult to find salary surveys that physicians say are accurate, and no one will tell you their salary because it's "private." For all I know, an attending's salary is $19,000 per year. I'm hoping that the big secret is that we'll all make millions per year.
BTW, I personally think it's a bad idea to post salaries on a public (very public) forum.
Then, once it comes time to be an attending and make a real salary, guess what-- the actual salary is a big secret!! It's very difficult to find salary surveys that physicians say are accurate, and no one will tell you their salary because it's "private." For all I know, an attending's salary is $19,000 per year. I'm hoping that the big secret is that we'll all make millions per year.
Do you think every doc you see is working pro bono?
If you spend enough time on the pre-allo and allo boards you might begin to believe that soon every physician will be required to take a vow of poverty and only accept free meals in the soup kitchen as compensation.
...and then, only if the soup kitchen has NEVER EVER taken a donation from anyone or anything that has ever breathed the same air as someone that knows about any drug companies or vendors.
EM Chair.. 320K
Highest paid EM doc after that 226K
Wow. Almost a hundred grand difference. I'm just guessing he doesn't see a lot of patients, either. I'm sure he's bringing alot to the department, that's just sort of a eye-opening difference.
Take care,
Jeff
Wow. Almost a hundred grand difference. I'm just guessing he doesn't see a lot of patients, either. I'm sure he's bringing alot to the department, that's just sort of a eye-opening difference.
Take care,
Jeff
LOL! That is great! I'm graduating in 2 months and facing $260,000 in student loans. At this point an attending's salary is such an abstract concept I think I would have a Code Brown if someone offered me $120/hour to work at Kaiser!
After spending the last two years in L.A., I could never figure out how any E.D. physicians could afford to live comfortably on 180-200K. When you consider that a tiny house anywhere in L.A. county costs 800K-1 Mill, I'm not sure how they have enough money for gas, kids, food, etc.
Then, once it comes time to be an attending and make a real salary, guess what-- the actual salary is a big secret!! It's very difficult to find salary surveys that physicians say are accurate, and no one will tell you their salary because it's "private." For all I know, an attending's salary is $19,000 per year. I'm hoping that the big secret is that we'll all make millions per year.
No one will ask to borrow your heat activated, peach tasting lube or your ultra, mega bunny 3000.......or that you like to be spanked and called McFatty but if they hear you make X and X is more than them prepare for problems.....especially with family.I was once reading an article about American culture in a foreign paper. The author made a very interesting and true point - Americans have no problem going on national television and baring their dirtiest, darkest secrets of their sexual lives but if you ask them their salary all of a sudden the get angry and hush up.