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Surgery Residency Training in Europe

Discussion in 'Europe' started by subQ, Aug 21, 2004.

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  1. subQ

    subQ Junior Member

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    Hi, I would like to train in Surgery in Europe. I am from the Philippines, and just got my MD degree. I've looked into UK, but its just as complicated as applying in the US. What EU countries/hospitals would you guys suggest? I'm fluent in English; am willing to learn another language if needed.
    Thank you!
  2. drewshaker

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    Hey man,
    Thats tight that youre a doctor now. Well Ive been spending my last weeks here in the Czech Republic, a EU country. Anyway, I will be attending a the med school here for the 1st year. Not a glmarous thing whatsoever, just thought Id tell you.

    Anyhow, I heard that post grad training here, after the official acceptance into the EU, that post grad in Czech should be good anywhere in the EU. Right now, its quite easy to do post grad here. Im not sure as to whether you need to know Czech or not. Anyway, check out Charles University faculties and Comenius in Slovakia for information...

    1st, 2nd, 3rd faculties and Hradec Kralove and Plsen. All have post grad in English but you pay to learn.

    Thanks,
    Andrew
  3. WaZoBia

    WaZoBia Senior Member

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    hi, what school did ya attend??
  4. snowflake

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    Hi! Is this thread still open? I also want to know the answers. I'm a medicine student from the Philippines.
  5. snowflake

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    Anyone here from Europe? please help....
  6. assos

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    well, im in europe. what do you need help with?
  7. snowflake

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    Hi! assos. Just want to know if non-Europe med graduates have a chance to do a residency training in Europe. And if so, were there any requirements and may we know certain places where to apply for residency training?

    Take care :)
  8. assos

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    hi snowflake.

    first of all, im not familiar with the majority of us/uk terms such as residents, interns etc. google tells me residency = doing a specialization in a certain field, while intern = mandatory period of training for all med school graduates, correct?

    i currently live in norway (a non-eu country), although im polish and ive studied in poland. the current situation for all med school graduees from outside of eu/north america/australia (possibly more countries/regions) who wish to specialize in norway is as follows:

    1.) pass a norwegian language test. afaik, there are 2 official tests, one of them is known as "bergens" test.

    2.) pass the so-called "fagprove". when i took this test (i had to take it, as i graduated before poland became an eu member), it consisted of about 80 multiple choice questions (total amount) from internal med., surg., psych., gyn-obs., ped. + a few more "non-medical" subjects. the test was rather easy, and in comparison to usmle or similar, its a piece of cake. i believe 65 % correct answers = pass.

    3.) courses in certain "national" subjects are required - sorry, again not sure of the english terms - basically it involves the interaction of psychiatry and law. the courses are compulsory, thyre conducted at the university of oslo, and there are exams - again, theyre very easy to pass.

    4.) even if you have gone through intern (i use this term to denote the obligatory training that med school graduates must complete before being able to specialize in a chosen field - again, im not quite familiar with the uk/us terms), youll have to repeat that in norway. its comprized of either 6 mts. internal + 6 mts. surgery + 6 mts. gp, or 4 mts. internal + 4 mts. surgery + 4 mts. psych. + 6 mts. gp.

    5.) after completing your intern, you can apply to whatever youd like - be it internal med., surgery, gyn-obs etc. the best (only?) way is by searching through vacant positions here. in the top left search box, mark "assistentlege" (=assistent doctor = an md in the process of specializing. as a side note, "overlege" = an md with a specialty), in the search box just beneath choose the specialty you wish to search for vacant positions. eventhough you dont know the language, it should give you an idea of the chances you have in your preferred spec.

    6.) when applying, you simply send in an "official" application that can be found here (=Søknadsblankett for legestillinger) + a motivation letter.

    7.) when applying, no exam results etc. are required. the norwegian system is rather, heh, shall we say socialist, as in: "everybody has equal rights". basically it equates to no exams :thumbup: whatsoever.

    if you have any further questions, fire away.

    EDIT:

    aha, forgot to mention about $.

    as an intern, youll pull 420000 norwegian kroner a year (1$ = appx. 6 kroner). remember taxes will be appx. 40 % or so. afair, it equated to appx. 22000 nok. a month after taxes. the wages of a resident are only slightly higher, something around 500000+. it all depends on the number of duties. as a resident, depending on the hospital youre working at, youll have anything between 2 - 8 duties/month ("compulsory"). any additional duties you take (number of these again depends on the hospital/ward youre working at), are very well paid - appx. 4000 nok (appx. 700$) after taxes.
  9. snowflake

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    wow! thanks assos. :) Norway is a great country. I would love to visit that country soon. I hope there are other countries in Europe where they speak mostly English. Like Britain or London. Communication might be a big a problem during practice so I can't take some risk. I can speak in three dialects..English, Filipino and a little Chinese. I'll be taking my postgrad internship here in Philippines. Hope to have my residency in Europe. I'll still check on Norway. Thanks again :)
  10. onneedle

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    :confused:hi guys. m a postgraduate in general surgery from india.
    interested in fellowships in surgical oncology or surgical gastroenterology. looking for options in europe amd canada.

    CAN ANYONE HELP? how to go ahead?
  11. ccmdoctor

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    Hi,
    I have finished my residency and fellowship in USA and am currently working as an attending. Can anyone tell me what the process is to work in a EU country (apart from learning the language of course). Do I have to do a residency and fellowship all over again or will my American training be recognized there? Also, is there a good website to find more information?
    Thanks.

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