Third Year Honors?

[sparticus]

What is honors in a third year clerkship? My school does not give out honors in third year but they do in fourth year. In many of the threads on this website I have seen students say they got honors in their third year core clerkships I just wanted to do a survey on what honors is at your different schools (you don't have to include your school name if you prefer). My school just gives a pass/fail grade and then a percentage. Thanks for you help.

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[mpp]

It varies by rotation but usually includes 'honors' score on the majority of your written evaluations (written by the residents and attendings you work with) and a set minimum score on the shelf exam. In some rotations a good 1/3 - 1/2 of the people will get honors. In others, perhaps 10%. Some rotations (like surgery and emergency medicine) require a minimum number of procedures to be performed also. Procedures for the surgery rotation include things like scrubbing for a case, pulling a chest tube, central line, arterial line, and also includes anesthesia so intubations, IV's, also count toward your total

 

[footcramp]

1/3 - 1/2? Wtf!

 

[quideam]

At my school, i've heard that around 1/2 of the people will recieve honors for surgery and medicine... and another 1/4 will get high passes. Don't know how true this is, but that's what people say. Not sure about the other rotations.

 

[EasyRider]

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[kaos]

Is it true that residencies consider A's practically honors when comparing schools that have the letter grade scale to those on pass/fail systems?

 

[DrRobert]

Is it true that residencies consider A's practically honors when comparing schools that have the letter grade scale to those on pass/fail systems?

Yes.

 

[njbmd]

Hi there,
My school gave Honors, Pass and Fail. If you received Honors, you scored above 86% on the shelf exam. If not, you got a Pass and if you failed the shelf exam (scored less than 65%) you failed the rotation.

njbmd

 

[BigRedZippo]

Here it's generally 15%, but many clerkship directors, if they have a stellar group, will bump it up to 20, maybe 25%.

 

[CANES2006]

At my school, i've heard that around 1/2 of the people will recieve honors for surgery and medicine... and another 1/4 will get high passes. Don't know how true this is, but that's what people say. Not sure about the other rotations.

Can we say grade inflation?

 

[bigfrank]

Is it true that residencies consider A's practically honors when comparing schools that have the letter grade scale to those on pass/fail systems?

A = Honors in everyone's mind.

 

[bldavis11]

94 and above is honors at my school. With shelfs counting in the 40% - 50% range, H's are not common. If 50% of students honor the class, it sounds like grade inflation to some people.

 

[quideam]

Hey, after crazy competition during MS1 and 2, i'll take a little grade inflation . But really, our shelves count for about 25% in most rotations, with evaluations and workshops/tutor sessions, etc., making up the other 75%. So that may be part of the reason why so many people get honors and HPs.