Touro COM - New York (TouroCOM-NY) Discussion Thread 2014 - 2015

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Does anybody know TouroCOM COMPLEX/USMLE pass rate or average scores? (Either campus)

First, it's the COMLEX, not the COMPLEX. Second, Middletown currently only has their first year class, so no one has taken their boards yet. I'm not sure if that data is published, but considering that they have a high 90's percent for residency placement, and you need a passing board score for match, then it's probably a high 90's pass rate

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Does anybody know TouroCOM COMPLEX/USMLE pass rate or average scores? (Either campus)
I might not be remembering this correctly but at the Harlem interview, the dean said that the pass rate last year was like 93ish? He then said, is it as high as we want it to be? No! But that's why you guys are here, to help improve it
 
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The suspense is killing me lol it'll be a month since my interview in a few days
 
For those who interviewed at Middletown, I just called the admissions office to see when I should be hearing back (I interviewed about 3 weeks ago) and he said he is working on it right now and should be sending out emails in an hour or so! :D he also said he wasn't sure which list he was working on. Good luck everyone!!
 
good luck everyone.

I hope i'm in... crossing fingers
 
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I have to say i'm a little worried though... It's brand new and I'm worried about the status of DO/MD mergers and whether i'll get a residency.

Is it risky to go to Middletown?

I truly loved T-MT , but I worry about rotation spot security and i worry about residency placement and board pass rate... we don't evne know about the board pass rate of any current students... we won't know till we are in school.. so i'm just skeptical


also we can't trust T-Harlem's stats, their admissions criteria is very different. They have been accepting higher qualified students so their low 90's passrate for comlex doesn't necessarily apply to us
 
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I interviewed 3/16 and was just accepted today, 3/27.
Very happy to be accepted, though am concerned (like many others on this thread) about the many red flags/price tag associated with the school.
 
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@DocEspana
For those who missed my rants/insider info on this over the last three years (sorry for less and less appearances here over that time) there is a method to the madness.

The Osteopathic education profession as a whole does this because both the AACOM and AAMC know that residency is NOT currently a bottleneck they way they like to suggest it is, but that they will have to make it one. Let me expand. And this is me expanding in the most superficial way possible since I could discuss many elements of this AT LENGTH. Everyone constantly bitches to congress that residency is a bottleneck, that there isnt enough specialties, that they need to cough up more money to make more spots, that they need to add spots here*-here**-and-here***. But congress has the numbers, they know the truth. Residency is not a bottle-neck and all and there are thousands of more spots than their are graduates. That with very few exceptions there is an *excess* of specialists over what is needed (every number you hear about specialists shortages is presuming that the existing specialists arent going to redistribute themselves. So its effectively measuring the deficit in middle america and ignoring an excess on the coasts. Excess > deficit in this case). That they have no need to create more spots for American students at the cost of the american taxpayer when we have american tax-funded spots going to non-americans. And that they really need to add spots there^-there^^-and-there^^^

*= NYC or Boston
** = Chicago or LA
*** = Warm major cities with close access to beaches
^ = The applachian mountains
^^ = The ozarks
^^^ = Places with perpetual winters and entire communties with only dial-up internet.

This wont stop the people with vested interests (AACOM, AAMC, ACGME, AOA, AMA) from fighting the good fight over and over by ramming their head against the wall of resitance in the government and hoping for a different outcome... but they also arent idiots. The writing is on the wall. All the involved groups know that the US wont act *until* there is either a true calamity that is truly imminent, or until US students are actually going to these primary care programs in undesirable locations. That everyone says they want to do primary care doesnt help the cause. So the second-level game is that IF the government isnt going to budge on the number of spots available until the extant ones are better utilized, then this is a land grab. There is *possiby* a finite number of residency spots in the immediate future. The AAMC wants to expand to force the issue with the governmental powers that be. The AOA wants to expand because this is its time to increase its hold on the overall medical numbers. To avoid calamity, the "n" of students will only appoximate the "x" of residency spots. Never meet. Never exceed. Even in a theoretical world devoid of incredibly qualified foreign applicants. So the AOA wants to fill as much of the "n" as possible and are willing to cut corners because they see this as a "move it or lose it" situation for the degree's future.

I may be a DO, but my experience is at the AMA end. The AMA is in no way shape or form open about their feeligns on this. Their stance is residency should be expanded, the end, period, full stop. But every member talks quite openly with other members about 1) how its pretty obvious that forcing the issue by expanding medical education without expanding residency is going to be the only way and 2) Its pretty obvious, and the DOs who are sent from the AOA admit it openly too, that this is a land-grab by the AOA trying to make sure they have a higher representaiton once the roster fills up in this attempt to push the issue.
 
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summary = There will be enough residency spots, but you have to be willing to go to the middle of nowhere and practice FM
 
Interviewed 3/16 and waitlisted at Middletown. Think the chances are high of getting in? Interview went super well.
 
once I get confirmation of my other acceptance deposit I'll be withdrawing my acceptance here, so hopefully another spot for one of you guys!
 
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@DocEspana
For those who missed my rants/insider info on this over the last three years (sorry for less and less appearances here over that time) there is a method to the madness.

The Osteopathic education profession as a whole does this because both the AACOM and AAMC know that residency is NOT currently a bottleneck they way they like to suggest it is, but that they will have to make it one. Let me expand. And this is me expanding in the most superficial way possible since I could discuss many elements of this AT LENGTH. Everyone constantly bitches to congress that residency is a bottleneck, that there isnt enough specialties, that they need to cough up more money to make more spots, that they need to add spots here*-here**-and-here***. But congress has the numbers, they know the truth. Residency is not a bottle-neck and all and there are thousands of more spots than their are graduates. That with very few exceptions there is an *excess* of specialists over what is needed (every number you hear about specialists shortages is presuming that the existing specialists arent going to redistribute themselves. So its effectively measuring the deficit in middle america and ignoring an excess on the coasts. Excess > deficit in this case). That they have no need to create more spots for American students at the cost of the american taxpayer when we have american tax-funded spots going to non-americans. And that they really need to add spots there^-there^^-and-there^^^

*= NYC or Boston
** = Chicago or LA
*** = Warm major cities with close access to beaches
^ = The applachian mountains
^^ = The ozarks
^^^ = Places with perpetual winters and entire communties with only dial-up internet.

This wont stop the people with vested interests (AACOM, AAMC, ACGME, AOA, AMA) from fighting the good fight over and over by ramming their head against the wall of resitance in the government and hoping for a different outcome... but they also arent idiots. The writing is on the wall. All the involved groups know that the US wont act *until* there is either a true calamity that is truly imminent, or until US students are actually going to these primary care programs in undesirable locations. That everyone says they want to do primary care doesnt help the cause. So the second-level game is that IF the government isnt going to budge on the number of spots available until the extant ones are better utilized, then this is a land grab. There is *possiby* a finite number of residency spots in the immediate future. The AAMC wants to expand to force the issue with the governmental powers that be. The AOA wants to expand because this is its time to increase its hold on the overall medical numbers. To avoid calamity, the "n" of students will only appoximate the "x" of residency spots. Never meet. Never exceed. Even in a theoretical world devoid of incredibly qualified foreign applicants. So the AOA wants to fill as much of the "n" as possible and are willing to cut corners because they see this as a "move it or lose it" situation for the degree's future.

I may be a DO, but my experience is at the AMA end. The AMA is in no way shape or form open about their feeligns on this. Their stance is residency should be expanded, the end, period, full stop. But every member talks quite openly with other members about 1) how its pretty obvious that forcing the issue by expanding medical education without expanding residency is going to be the only way and 2) Its pretty obvious, and the DOs who are sent from the AOA admit it openly too, that this is a land-grab by the AOA trying to make sure they have a higher representaiton once the roster fills up in this attempt to push the issue.

Ah my words do matter!!
 
It's also increasing dramatically every year, from around 85% in 2007 to mid 90s % last year if I remember correctly.

I'm curious, why do people always talk about pass rates? It would be nice if schools actually posted averages and standard deviations.

That would be more valuable than pass rates - because it would be more valuable to know a school had a pass rate of 90% with an average of 230, than a pass rate of 100% with an average of 205 etc.
 
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Quick question guys...health packet form is due soon. I believe March 31st... What happens when I pass the deadline. Im still waiting for lab results on some of my immunity tests.

Also, can I send the documentation via email? Does the physical copy must be sent?
 
Quick question guys...health packet form is due soon. I believe March 31st... What happens when I pass the deadline. Im still waiting for lab results on some of my immunity tests.

Also, can I send the documentation via email? Does the physical copy must be sent?

I would just email them and explain. I'm sure they will be understanding!!!
 
Quick question guys...health packet form is due soon. I believe March 31st... What happens when I pass the deadline. Im still waiting for lab results on some of my immunity tests.

Also, can I send the documentation via email? Does the physical copy must be sent?

Erm...other than a February email stating that health forms would be sent later in an email, I haven't heard anything about them or a deadline...*panics*
 
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Erm...other than a February email stating that health forms would be sent later in an email, I haven't heard anything about them or a deadline...*panics*
Email them and ask. I recently received the health packet.
 
Erm...other than a February email stating that health forms would be sent later in an email, I haven't heard anything about them or a deadline...*panics*

If you haven't received the health forms yet, they are online at http://tourocom.touro.edu/students/under Forms. You want the "certificate of immunity, health history, physicalexamination & meningitis forms"
 
If you haven't received the health forms yet, they are online at http://tourocom.touro.edu/students/under Forms. You want the "certificate of immunity, health history, physicalexamination & meningitis forms"
Thanks for the forms. I just didn't want to schedule an appointment and finish them before they requested them because I don't want the forms to be sent early and lost. But I appreciate you showing us the forms!!
 
I know someone mentioned that last year that they used the whole waitlist. Does anyone know how big the list usually gets/when movement starts?
 
Thanks for the forms. I just didn't want to schedule an appointment and finish them before they requested them because I don't want the forms to be sent early and lost. But I appreciate you showing us the forms!!

Well the lab work takes a couple days to get back and probably it will take a few days to have an appointment scheduled with your PCP. You could always have the forms completed and then wait to submit them until they are requested. You can't register for classes until they receive your health packet, so you'd just be hurting yourself by waiting longer than necessary.
 
I know someone mentioned that last year that they used the whole waitlist. Does anyone know how big the list usually gets/when movement starts?

No definitive answer, but considering the class size (at least for Middletown) is 135, there shouldn't be more than 135 on the wait list. My guess would be that there are up to 30 names on the current wait list considering the fact that it's late in the application cycle and many seats have already been claimed. There should be movement almost every day seeing as people are deferring their acceptance and others are letting 2 weeks lapse after their acceptance notice. Fyi the acceptance email states "You have two weeks to respond. After the deadline your acceptance will be withdrawn". Also, May 15 is the deadline for the second deposit, so there may be movement after that date as well.
 
Any point in applying this late? ._. I have yet to be accepted to any of the MD schools I've applied to and my parents are forcing me to apply to Carib schools but I would much rather see if I have a shot here.
 
Any point in applying this late? ._. I have yet to be accepted to any of the MD schools I've applied to and my parents are forcing me to apply to Carib schools but I would much rather see if I have a shot here.
I believe it is too late for this cycle. I would suggest both you and your parents do as much research as possible about Caribbean schools to make an informed decision (the consensus is IMG students are having a tougher and tougher time matching into residencies) and apply next cycle. Good luck!
 
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Any point in applying this late? ._. I have yet to be accepted to any of the MD schools I've applied to and my parents are forcing me to apply to Carib schools but I would much rather see if I have a shot here.
Probably too late now, but if you have $200 to throw around, why not.
 
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Don't waste your money
That means don't apply now & don't go the carribean.




Instead apply for touro masters and then matriculate next fall


"Students who complete the MS program with at least a 3.5 GPA and pass their comprehensive exam may qualify for our DO program."
 
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Going to withdraw. Sending email tomorrow morning. Good luck everyone else
 
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Hi there,

I interviewed at Harlem on 3/11 and was waitlisted on 3/24; does anyone know if most of the people getting interviewed at Harlem are being waitlisted, or have some people gotten acceptances lately? I know that Middletown has been giving out acceptances, but haven't heard much about Harlem acceptances recently...
 
Spoke to the Admissions Office the other day. They said they are still interviewing so I guess the waitlist hasn't moved yet.
 
just throwing this out there for anyone reading and considering applying. myself and 2 other friends applied in august two years ago and decided not to apply here because it was 200 bucks. around this time we all were nervous as we had not been accepted anywhere yet only waistlist. we each decided to give it a shot and apply. our secondaries went out in april. one was accepted. one was waitlisted and later accepted. and myself was rejected but its ok cuz i was accept back in october this year :)

my point is dont auto reject yourself by not applying. 200 bucks is a lot of money for an application but wont make or break your life in the future

also anyone intrested in joining the middletown facebook group heres the link https://www.facebook.com/groups/383881318447m567/
there are a bunch of current student in the group now answering questions and helping out. i will be making a group around june or so for our class specifically though.
 
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Anyone hear anything new about the waitlist at Harlem? Know the likelihood that people will be accepted off of it?
 
Dies anyone know anything about the certainty of rotations?

I read that Harlem had serious issues with its inaugural class

Is this gonna be the case for Middletown?
 
Anyone hear anything new about the waitlist at Harlem? Know the likelihood that people will be accepted off of it?
Called Lena Perez in Admissions today. She said to expect movement in May as more people decline the secondary fee. Hard to say how much movement but during my interview, they said they exhausted the waitlist last year.
 
Called Lena Perez in Admissions today. She said to expect movement in May as more people decline the secondary fee. Hard to say how much movement but during my interview, they said they exhausted the waitlist last year.

That makes me feel much better. Thanks for sharing! Fingers crossed!
 
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