this is getting ridiculous, i realize they have some issues to work out, but leaving us hanging like this is a big turn-off
@DrMidlife if you'd be so kind, id like to hear your thoughts on possible reasons why most of the students not placing or placing out of the country are former MSBS students. Maybe it has something to do with the MSBS program having a relatively low average MCAT score for matriculants (27-28 I believe), in comparison to other established SMPs. It's possible they never quite sharpened those standardized test-taking skills. On the other hand, the data seems to show that individuals with a 28 usually do reasonably well in med school. On the other other hand, individuals with a lower MCAT score who get into med school usually have a higher GPA to compensate. Totally just speculation on my part.hey, guys (current msbs student). from my PI's discussion with a faculty member involved with admissions, some extra things that shed a little more light onto the situation that has come up. (if you don't care about what happened to current msbs skip to 3)
1) last year the admissions board was very disappointed with the way the M1 class turned out.
they ended up having to accept many people they would not have normally accepted because they had the MSBS seats in mind. therefore, because they review MSBS applicants last, they under-booked the class with regular applicants and it was too late to fill with candidates that were more to their standards. this lead them to accept every MSBS student that was wait-listed (presumably those that didn't deserve acceptances), and sending out late interview requests in a desperate attempt to fill all their seats. essentially, the MSBS class burned them.
2) this year the admissions board is also disappointed with the way the M1 class turned out.
they ended up digging deeper into regular applicants and gave away seats to, what ended up being, less qualified students than many of the deferred MSBS students. this is due to the fact that they wanted to reduce the number of MSBS'ers they took (vide infra). this lead them to offer deferrals because they did, in fact, want to take these deferred students into this year's M1 class, but couldn't. therefore, they did the next best thing.
3) the reason why the admissions board wants to take less MSBS students is because UT is seeing a decrease in residency placements and an increase in out of country residency placements (both bad things for the university) and they found that most of these students not placing or having to do residency out of the country were former MSBS students.
as you can see it turned out to be a perfect storm. what this says about MSBS '15-'16 class? other than they are definitely being more selective with whom they take into their M1 class from MSBS, i would GUESS they they will start assessing applicants as a whole, be more selective with matriculations, and all historic % mean nothing anymore (not that it ever did).
I have to respond to the the comment you made about residencies. The reason why there is a decrease in residency placements is definitely not due to MSBS students. That is the fault of the residency programs at the hospital which historically tends to accept foreign medical graduates for their residency spots. I know a ton of MSBS students who are doing top specialties in U.S programs. I feel the admissions is making a major generalization towards MSBS students.hey, guys (current msbs student). from my PI's discussion with a faculty member involved with admissions, some extra things that shed a little more light onto the situation that has come up. (if you don't care about what happened to current msbs skip to 3)
1) last year the admissions board was very disappointed with the way the M1 class turned out.
they ended up having to accept many people they would not have normally accepted because they had the MSBS seats in mind. therefore, because they review MSBS applicants last, they under-booked the class with regular applicants and it was too late to fill with candidates that were more to their standards. this lead them to accept every MSBS student that was wait-listed (presumably those that didn't deserve acceptances), and sending out late interview requests in a desperate attempt to fill all their seats. essentially, the MSBS class burned them.
2) this year the admissions board is also disappointed with the way the M1 class turned out.
they ended up digging deeper into regular applicants and gave away seats to, what ended up being, less qualified students than many of the deferred MSBS students. this is due to the fact that they wanted to reduce the number of MSBS'ers they took (vide infra). this lead them to offer deferrals because they did, in fact, want to take these deferred students into this year's M1 class, but couldn't. therefore, they did the next best thing.
3) the reason why the admissions board wants to take less MSBS students is because UT is seeing a decrease in residency placements and an increase in out of country residency placements (both bad things for the university) and they found that most of these students not placing or having to do residency out of the country were former MSBS students.
as you can see it turned out to be a perfect storm. what this says about MSBS '15-'16 class? other than they are definitely being more selective with whom they take into their M1 class from MSBS, i would GUESS they they will start assessing applicants as a whole, be more selective with matriculations, and all historic % mean nothing anymore (not that it ever did).
No change in my status...It's Friday now...they send they would send out acceptances sometime this week...has anyone heard back???
The wait is becoming comically long at this point.It's Friday now...they send they would send out acceptances sometime this week...has anyone heard back???
Do you mind PM me your stats just to get an idea of the type of people they are accepting this year?My status online was changed to accepted on Thursday, but no email yet.
Do you mind PM me your stats just to get an idea of the type of people they are accepting this year?
hey, guys (current msbs student). from my PI's discussion with a faculty member involved with admissions, some extra things that shed a little more light onto the situation that has come up. (if you don't care about what happened to current msbs skip to 3)
1) last year the admissions board was very disappointed with the way the M1 class turned out.
they ended up having to accept many people they would not have normally accepted because they had the MSBS seats in mind. therefore, because they review MSBS applicants last, they under-booked the class with regular applicants and it was too late to fill with candidates that were more to their standards. this lead them to accept every MSBS student that was wait-listed (presumably those that didn't deserve acceptances), and sending out late interview requests in a desperate attempt to fill all their seats. essentially, the MSBS class burned them.
2) this year the admissions board is also disappointed with the way the M1 class turned out.
they ended up digging deeper into regular applicants and gave away seats to, what ended up being, less qualified students than many of the deferred MSBS students. this is due to the fact that they wanted to reduce the number of MSBS'ers they took (vide infra). this lead them to offer deferrals because they did, in fact, want to take these deferred students into this year's M1 class, but couldn't. therefore, they did the next best thing.
3) the reason why the admissions board wants to take less MSBS students is because UT is seeing a decrease in residency placements and an increase in out of country residency placements (both bad things for the university) and they found that most of these students not placing or having to do residency out of the country were former MSBS students.
as you can see it turned out to be a perfect storm. what this says about MSBS '15-'16 class? other than they are definitely being more selective with whom they take into their M1 class from MSBS, i would GUESS they they will start assessing applicants as a whole, be more selective with matriculations, and all historic % mean nothing anymore (not that it ever did).
You will be notified one way or another by mid to late July. The online status will be updated.does anyone know if people get notified as rejected/denied on the online status? or does it stay 'complete awaiting decision' even if one is not selected by the end?
Got my acceptance today through email and status change online. A very close friend who just finished the program made it a point to tell me to reconsider. They only accepted 10 of the MSBS students this year, and did not even tell the students there were limited seats (after accepting regular applicants) until a few weeks ago when they found out their admission status. BTW does anyone else who was accepted know when classes begin? I looked at the academic calendar, it doesn't specify and only has dates for regular classes at UT.
About 20 people were straight denied a spot...some of those people applied to DO schools as backups and they are now going there. So technically 30 out of 50 got accepted which is about 60 percent acceptance rate.If only 10 people were accepted and the others got deferred, then what happened to the other ppl outside of that? It's kind of scary because this program only guarantees an interview
I heard Wayne States BMS program is similar to this but it takes 2 years.
I have to respond to the the comment you made about residencies. The reason why there is a decrease in residency placements is definitely not due to MSBS students. That is the fault of the residency programs at the hospital which historically tends to accept foreign medical graduates for their residency spots. I know a ton of MSBS students who are doing top specialties in U.S programs. I feel the admissions is making a major generalization towards MSBS students.
Also, is UT admissions bipolar or something. One year they don't want MSBS people and the next they do? What is really upsetting is how they accepted under qualified regular applicants. The MSBS people should be given priority. They performed the med school work and have done more to try to get in. In conclusion, the ad com is confused.
I'm an out of stater who will be moving for this program soon. I'm looking for advice on housing and how to make connections. If anyone has the facebook page that would also be greatly appreciated! I'm flying out Monday to look for housing. What areas should I look at? I am fine with either an apartment or house but I want to know what people prefer. I also have a dog and will be bringing at least one horse so I am looking for barns and boarding facilities as well. I've got four days to sort this all out and could really use some help!
Can you elaborate- what are we missing?Some of you are making a big mistake by not doing this program because of what happened this year. That is all I am going to say.
Can you elaborate- what are we missing?
anyone else heard any news?
I'm just going to go to the Michigan MS in phys. Michigan has solid academics so I figure that if I do well I can reapply to med schools with a decent chance. Granted I haven't been admitted to MSBS as of now so I don't have much of a choice. But even if I did get in I'd turn them down at this point.So if only 10 people got direct acceptances, then the other were either defer-accepted or did DO schools as back-up?
I'm sort of torn if I should do this or just stick with Michigan's MS in Physiology/BMS and reapply to med schools with that if I have to. It's hard deciding which route to take
Much appreciated @octopus87 -- Still waiting on the next round of acceptances.
I'm still waiting just like you....just keep holding on.Starting to become very frustrated and anxious with this process. Been waiting for over a month with not much word after being told I would know for sure by June 15. I have a undergrad GPA of 3.02 and MCAT of 27, worked at osu hospital, ED at ohio health hospital and research at natiowide, as well as numerous ec. In college, as well as varsity athletics. Really just wanting to get word. I feel I'm a good fit and really want to be there.
Anxiety is inherent in any admissions process. Try not to get too frustrated or you'll burn out when it comes time to apply to med school. I know I did.Starting to become very frustrated and anxious with this process. Been waiting for over a month with not much word after being told I would know for sure by June 15. I have a undergrad GPA of 3.02 and MCAT of 27, worked at osu hospital, ED at ohio health hospital and research at natiowide, as well as numerous ec. In college, as well as varsity athletics. Really just wanting to get word. I feel I'm a good fit and really want to be there.
Thanks, yea hopefully it all works out for the best for everyone.Anxiety is inherent in any admissions process. Try not to get too frustrated or you'll burn out when it comes time to apply to med school. I know I did.
I think right now a lot of the delay is waiting to see if the people they've accepted are going to take a position in this class or not.Thanks, yea hopefully it all works out for the best for everyone.