What are some classes to take that are not a lot of work and is easy to do well? I want to take more classes so I can raise my gpa after last semester.
Some super easy courses for ya: Biol 251, Chem 221, BE 301, BE 350, Math 241, Phys 170 & 171
If you want to take easy courses, just transfer into Wharton. I hate premeds that take easy classes.
You just got into Penn. Challenge yourself. Take intellectual risks. It might not be the most "textbook" smart thing to do for getting into med schools, but at least you can go to sleep proud that you've pushed yourself and worked your ass off to accomplish the lofty goal of med school.
Some super easy courses for ya: Biol 251, Chem 221, BE 301, BE 350, Math 241, Phys 170 & 171
If you want to take easy courses, just transfer into Wharton. I hate premeds that take easy classes.
You just got into Penn. Challenge yourself. Take intellectual risks. It might not be the most "textbook" smart thing to do for getting into med schools, but at least you can go to sleep proud that you've pushed yourself and worked your ass off to accomplish the lofty goal of med school.
Some super easy courses for ya: Biol 251, Chem 221, BE 301, BE 350, Math 241, Phys 170 & 171
If you want to take easy courses, just transfer into Wharton. I hate premeds that take easy classes.
You just got into Penn. Challenge yourself. Take intellectual risks. It might not be the most "textbook" smart thing to do for getting into med schools, but at least you can go to sleep proud that you've pushed yourself and worked your ass off to accomplish the lofty goal of med school.
Yes, it sucks that he's trying to avoid some challenging classes, but it's hard, if not impossible, to get out of Penn without taking at least some intellectually intriguing and challenging classes. Plus he's got to suffer through the pre-med classes and the curve in those (C+ department mandated average, baby.) It's easy to need a little GPA padding. Throw the kid a bone.Totally agree. The OP wants to be a little weasel pre-med and protect his pathetic gpa and waste his brain on brainless classes - what a joke. He is a student a great university and totally wasting the experience - precisely the kind of student that should be rejected from med school for being nothing but a grade *****.
Yes, it sucks that he's trying to avoid some challenging classes, but it's hard, if not impossible, to get out of Penn without taking at least some intellectually intriguing and challenging classes. Plus he's got to suffer through the pre-med classes and the curve in those (C+ department mandated average, baby.) It's easy to need a little GPA padding. Throw the kid a bone.
Honestly, the best advice I could give to someone who wants to go to med school is to avoid Ivy League schools and others of that ilk so you can have a competitively high GPA. Hard work won't always get you the A's you need when you're in a competitive program where everyone else is on your level. Sure, no one wants to be a grade ***** but looking at SDN, that's obviously what it takes.
Don't get me wrong, I wouldn't have gone anywhere else for a kingdom and a horse. Everything you just said, I have also said in the past. I even went back to post-bac and GA'd. Penn was the best decision I could have made for myself, in terms of opportunities educational/intellectual, social, and occupational. But I stand by the fact that if your end goal is just to get into med school, go where the grades are easier to come by. It's cynical, but I think there's a point there.I agree with your first part but I would not avoid ivy league universities simply because I was premed. Coming to Penn was one of the best decisions I made (even though my GPA is horrendous!). The opportunities--ie many professors, research, groups, community service, etc. are amazing. I have grown so much and have also met some of my best friends. It's nice when everyone (almost everyone, I would say) is so intellectually motivated. You get to have awesome conversations outside the classroom. Even most of the grade ****** are interesting in learning--not only getting good grades.
What I advise to incoming premed freshmen is to choose classes wisely. Mix in harder science classes with humanities courses so that you are not overwhelmed. Try not to take too many courses or over commit yourself. This is hard at Penn because even the worst of us are overachievers. But, I think at the end of the day, you will be more satisfied going to Penn than your "easier" university. Also, it is totally possible to get good grades this way--I realized this trick my last two years.
And, I don't think there is anything wrong with some GPA padding. The Math 122, 499, Bio 151 classes are ABCS courses, which are academically based community service courses. They throw you into West Philly classrooms asking you to teach. You develop lesson plans, learn how to deal with different populations, etc. It is quite challenging to assimilate into those environments. And, I think as a doctor who will be dealing with different patient populations, it is a great learning experience. The thing with these courses is that there are no curves so you can get As pretty easily. But that does not mean that they are any less intellectually challenging. Heck, I would say they were more stimulating and I learned more from them than BE 350, which is fluid dynamics for bioengineers.
So in short: be smart with your schedules, don't over commit, have fun...I just graduated and am finishing up a masters. Will be done in the fall. It really was the best time of my life. Coming here is a once in a lifetime experience and enjoy it smartly.
Rocks for Jocks. Awesome class. Omar is the man.
You little creep.
has anyone taken biol 446 vs stat 111?
I took it about 7 years ago. I thought about it after I posted and vaguely remember him saying that a few times. What I do remember is Shatte's and Sabini's (RIP) off the wall quotes in my psych classes. "Mauve? What the **** is mauve?"Did you or didn't you take geol with Omar? He says that all the time...to everyone
EDIT: OP, I took stat 111 and it was not bad at all in terms of difficulty and amount of work. Just a weekly hw, midterm, and final.
i love physical chemistry 221
i love physical chemistry 221
How do you know that easy classes at Penn are hard compared to other schools? I know from experience, doesn't matter what school you go to, there are always "useless" easy classes you can take.Why is everyone so against the OP for wanting to take "easy" classes?
I bet some of the easiest classes at Penn are harder than most classes at other schools so cut him some slack...
Yeah, the OP should take hard classes, get Bs/Cs and maybe get into medical school with a low GPA... that's totally the right thing to do.