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Discussion in 'Pre-Pharmacy' started by rxlea, 07.24.10.


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  1. bottlecap1990

    bottlecap1990

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    I think you have a chance if you get a good score on the PCAT.
  2. b1234

    b1234

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    In your case I would finish a bachelor's before applying. With your GPA(s), minimal EC's/jobs/etc., no bachelor's, and self admittedly only an OK PS and interviewing skills - unless you have incredible PCAT scores and some other things that aren't listed here - your chances at getting in this cycle are slim. Better to save the time, money, and stress and concentrate on undergraduate studies a bit longer. You will also probably do better on the PCAT after another year of school.

    A few other things to consider -
    An associate's doesn't really count for much, especially at this level, a bachelor's will.
    Many times it is better to take (harder) upper division classes and do well in them than to re-take courses you did poorly in. Among other things, it shows that you can handle the harder coursework.
    Some schools require LOR's from multiple professors - almost always at least one science professor, sometimes a 2nd, and sometimes a non science professor.
    Three LOR's from medical professionals is overkill - even 2 is pushing it. Better to have a bit more variety in who your LOR writers are.
    With EC's I've always gone with quality over quantity, but at least one other activity would be good. Don't forget though, that you want to be able to show how you made a difference - or at least were a regular participant - in any EC's you list.
  3. VaTravisVol

    VaTravisVol

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    I am biochemistry major with a chemistry minor at Virginia tech university
    a. Schools you are applying to: VCU, Shenandoah, Applachian, and Tennessee.
    b. Overall GPA - 3.60
    c. Math/Science GPA - 3.4
    d. GPA in last one or two school years - 3.76
    e. Complete PCAT scores (or just composite) - reading 69, verbal 58, bio 77, math 77, chemistry 96, comp - 84
    f. Pharmacy experience obtained - over 200 hours of pharmacy tech and assistant volunteering at free clinic
    g. Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary) - not yet
    h. Number of LORs and source of LORs - 3, one employer, one amazing professor, and one pharmacist
    i. Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience - biochemistry club volunteering at elementary schools and such
    j. Self-perception of interview skills - good speaker, very personable
    k. Overall impression of personal statement quality - haven't finished yet, hoping to do well, discussing why pharmacy, what steps i have taken, and what steps i will take..

    thanks for insight!
    Last edited: 08.02.10
  4. arichter838

    arichter838

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    Schools Madison, Concordia, Minnesota, Creighton
    GPA 3.5 Science / Math 3.6
    PCAT--August
    Shadowing Pharmacist
    Clinical--2 year Nursing Assistant, 2 years Spanish Translator Medical/Dental clinic, Pharmacology Lab Research Assistant Medical Brigade--Honduras Assisted Pharmacists
    Physician Shadowing 2 years.
    Applications submitted
    LOR--Science Prof, Pharmacist, Spanish Prof, Pre Pharm Advisor
    Interview Skills --good perception
    Personal Statement is good, not exceptional
  5. bbrc34

    bbrc34

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    I am a college athlete and I will be graduating in May from a private school with a BS in Molecular and Biochemistry. I'd like to know my chances as of now...I'm not thrilled with my PCAT score, but I would prefer to not retake it because my semesters are extremely busy playing a sport and attending classes.

    a. Schools you are applying to

    Nova Southeastern :xf:
    possibly: UF and LECOM BRADENTON....but I really want to go to NSU
    b. Overall GPA
    3.4
    c. Math/Science GPA
    3.2
    d. GPA in last one or two school years
    3.6
    e. Complete PCAT scores (or just composite)
    69% composite
    (84 bio, 45 verbal :eek: I think I bubbled wrong?!, 68 chem, 59 quant, 75 reading)
    f. Pharmacy experience obtained
    worked in pharmacy 5 months
    g. Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary)
    within the next 2 weeks
    Additionally, the following will help us gauge your chances but are more optional:
    h. Number of LORs and source of LORs
    4 LORS (1 pharmacist, 3 profs)
    i. Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience
    college athlete therefore I do not have a lot of free time
    j. Self-perception of interview skills
    strong interview skills, not worried if I get an interview I think I will get accepted!
    k. Overall impression of personal statement quality
    excellent statement, explain circumstances for grades, and use my background as a college athlete as an advantage over other applicants

    THANKS! :)
  6. Sitagliptin

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  7. heatheld

    heatheld

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    a. Schools you are applying to
    Ohio State, Michigan State, Tuoro, California Northstate, USC, UHilo, Midwestern (both Glendale and Downers Grove), North Carolina, and prob a few more

    b. Overall GPA
    3.48 (i did my first two years at a cal state and it was around a 3.8 and then my last two years at usc where it was around a 3.3)


    c. Math/Science GPA
    3.2


    d. GPA in last one or two school years
    3.3

    e. Complete PCAT scores (or just composite)

    95 composite

    73 verbal
    96 biology
    86 reading comp
    92 quantitative
    95 chem
    3/3 writing


    f. Pharmacy experience obtained
    i have worked at Pavilions as a pharmacy tech since June 09

    g. Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary)
    submitted my pharmcas app today actually (except they still havent got all my transcripts or my letters of rec yet) so hopefully those will arrive in the next few days
    havent started my supplementals - but am planning on getting most done this week.

    h. Number of LORs and source of LORs
    3 total
    2 from pharmacists - they will both be super strong
    and then 1 from my physio professor this one will also be strong (but the only issue is this is from a community college professor because I have been out of usc for a year and didnt form a close enough relationship with any of my teachers there, so i am worried this will effect me)


    i. Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience

    worked as a student athletic trainer for 3 years; health tutor to kids; worked on research project; hospital volunteer for about 4 years

    j. Self-perception of interview skills
    i think i am strong in this aspect, many others have echoed this sentiment

    k. Overall impression of personal statement quality
    i always stress about writing and never think it is good enough; but, i will go with it is probably a little above average


    thanks for any input =)
  8. lauradiddle

    lauradiddle OU's Token Longhorn

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    I was kind of hesitant to do this, but what the hay...

    Schools you are applying to
    UT, Texas Tech, UH, OU, Midwestern (AZ and IL), maybe a couple more?

    Overall GPA 2.94
    Math/Science GPA
    ~2.7
    GPA in last one or two school years
    ~2.9

    Complete PCAT scores (or just composite)
    82 composite

    Pharmacy experience obtained
    Full-time tech at a hospital since last November

    Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary)
    in progress

    Number of LORs and source of LORs
    3: professor, supervisor (pharmacist), another pharmacist I work with

    Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience
    -Member of the pre-pharmacy club at UT for two years
    -Volunteered at a children's hospital in Austin (not in the pharmacy though)
    -Worked way too long at a grocery store during undergrad (customer service, cashier, bookkeeping), 20-30 hrs per week.
    -Just started a volunteering gig with the DFW Humane Society

    Self-perception of interview skills
    I'm pretty confident that if I actually get the chance to interview somewhere, I have a good shot of getting into the program. My social GPA is a 4.0 ;)

    Overall impression of personal statement quality

    I'm still working on it. I think my writing is solid, but I'm having some people look over it and give me some constructive criticism before I finally submit it. Admittedly, some of my GPA comes from having a great time while living in Austin, but I also had to deal with some family circumstances my senior year when it really took a hit, and of course I talk about that in my essay.

    Also... I'm taking a couple classes that'll transfer back to UT and finish my BA in Biology there. +1 for degree :)

    So there you have it. A rough sketch of my application is in your hands, SDN. Do I stand a chance of getting an interview at one of my schools or are they just gonna look at my GPA and toss my app in the trash?

    PS - If I end up going to OU, I'll always bleed burnt orange. :horns:
  9. NiegelPharmkid

    NiegelPharmkid

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    I wouldn't give up hope, because I got into a good pharmacy school with a sub 3.0 gpa. In fact I was closer to the minimum. It depends on what the pool looks like that year, and if they feel you would make a good pharmacists. They're are some people with 4.0s who I wouldn't trust with my prescriptions. If you love the profession, you'll find a way.
  10. Gator13

    Gator13

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    a. University of Florida, Nova, UGA
    b. 3.6
    c. 3.5
    d. same
    e. Verb 86
    Bio 76
    RC 86
    QA 80
    Chem 85
    Comp 87
    Writing 3/3
    f. Volunteered this summer at a hospital pharmacy
    g. Applying to UF by Feb 1 for Fall 11
  11. fateluver

    fateluver

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    a. Schools you are applying to: Pitt, UPS, UT-Austin, Jefferson so far
    b. Overall GPA: 3.31
    c. Math/Science GPA: n/a, mostly Bs, B+s
    d. GPA in last one or two school years: 3.31
    e. Complete PCAT scores (or just composite): Verbal-89, Bio-98, RC-94, Quant -98, Chem-93, Writing - 3.0
    f. Pharmacy experience obtained: One year pharmacy clerk
    g. Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary): Still working on the application. How early should I submit it?

    Additionally, the following will help us gauge your chances but are more optional:
    h. Number of LORs and source of LORs: 3 - two pharmacists (staff pharmacist, and the director of pharmacy) and a physiology professor
    i. Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience - social chair in a small Christian group. That's about it in college.
    j. Self-perception of interview skills - I need a lot of practice, I think. I am really nervous about the interview. well, if I even get there.
    k. Overall impression of personal statement quality: I am an okay writer, not great. I have a feeling my statement will probably blend with the other ones.

    Thank you guys a lot!
  12. metallideth

    metallideth PharmD 2015

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    i posted in a thread like this before but i'm thinking of applying to two more schools and wanna know what my chances are with the new additions. one more thing i've retaken several classes and did better with all my retakes

    a. Schools you are applying to: south university and Philadelphia College of Osteopathic Medicine School of Pharmacy
    b. Overall GPA: 3.2
    c. Math/Science GPA: 3.3
    d. GPA in last one or two school years: 3.5
    e. Complete PCAT scores (or just composite): 53 composite :(
    f. Pharmacy experience obtained: volunteering at hospital and shadowing a pharmacist
    g. Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary): i wanna submit my app early so around november or december of 2010.

    Additionally, the following will help us gauge your chances but are more optional:
    h. Number of LORs and source of LORs: hopefully 4. A&P professor, volunteer organizer at hospital, orgo professor, soup kitchen coordinator.
    i. Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience: volunteer at soup kitchen, work at target and worked at mcdonalds.
    j. Self-perception of interview skills: fair
    k. Overall impression of personal statement quality: ok. i gotta keep working on it
  13. AJbara

    AJbara

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    Hey guys
    I need your help.

    Bachelor of Science Management/Accounting
    I am a nontraditional student, started out in biology years ago, transferred 70 hours to another school to complete my degree, complete 8/15/10! Worked in accounting for 4 years, however, now is the time to follow my dream!
    4 pre-reqs left, will not be done until March. Taking PCAT in Oct. applying to just about ALL 3 year pharmd programs this fall
    Taking Physics,Chem II, Calculus in the fall 2010
    Organic II in the spring
    Overall GPA = 3.0 will be a little higher when I transfer my English course
    Science so far = 3.0
    I have taken lots of upper level bio courses (don't forget I started out in biology)
    Interested in LECOM

    YIKES!:scared:WHAT ARE MY CHANCES?
  14. ph824

    ph824

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    a. Schools you are applying to:
    University of Tennessee, ETSU, Auburn, UGA, Mercer, Massachusetts - Boston, Midwestern - Chicago
    b. Overall GPA: 3.16
    c. Math/Science GPA: 2.9
    d. GPA in last one or two school years:
    3.62 last semester and 3.14 the semester before
    e. Complete PCAT scores (or just composite):
    June 2010:
    Verbal:69
    Reading Comprehension: 40 :(
    Quantitative: 69
    Biology: 80
    Chemistry: 85
    Composite: 73
    f. Pharmacy experience obtained:
    9 months of retail pharmacy experience as a technician and a semester of shadowing pharmacists
    g. Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary):
    Early Decision to University of Tennessee and submission to all other schools in October if not accepted to UT. I plan on completing secondaries as soon as I receive them.
    h. Number of LORs and source of LORs:
    4 LORs:
    2 pharmacists
    1 science professor
    1 business professor
    i. Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience:
    About 4 extracurricular activities, including 4 years of volunteer work, participated in a cultural organization, a business organization, and a social organization. I also held positions in most of them.
    j. Self-perception of interview skills:
    I can be very personable, but get nervous during interviews at first
    k. Overall impression of personal statement quality:
    I am currently writing my personal statement. I do not think it is anything life changing, but it definitely addresses all the points well.

    If you have any advice or comments please let me know! Thanks :)
  15. DDDluv

    DDDluv

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    My only concern about my stats is that I was not a pre - pharmacy major when I first entered college. I took some classes that do not apply to the pre - pharm curriculum and I did horrible in them. But besides those course all of my required pre-pharm grades are great. Will schools hold those grades against me?
    a. Schools you are applying to
    Palm Beach Atlantic, South University, Mercer, LECOM, East Tennessee, Wingate, Xavier, Lipscomb, Nova Southeastern
    b. Overall GPA
    3.33
    c. Math/Science GPA
    3.6
    d. GPA in last one or two school years
    3.33
    e. Complete PCAT scores (or just composite)
    Taking on Aug 21st
    f. Pharmacy experience obtained
    Shadowing for a short amount of time due to a heavy course load that semester
    g. Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary)
    August 30th - few weeks
    Additionally, the following will help us gauge your chances but are more optional:
    h. Number of LORs and source of LORs
    3) physics professor - pharmaceutical sales employee - old human resource manager - possibly one more from my chemistry teacher
    i. Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience
    400+
    j. Self-perception of interview skills
    I have good interview skills
    k. Overall impression of personal statement quality
    Still working on it but I think it will be good.
  16. rxlea

    rxlea Unicorn in training Moderator Emeritus

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    Solid application right here. I doubt you will have any trouble getting an interview.
  17. rxlea

    rxlea Unicorn in training Moderator Emeritus

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    You can improve your personal statement by having it proofread. You have a good application and you have some unique experiences that definitely stand out. Get a decent score on the PCAT and you will probably get some interviews at those schools, if not all. Remember that Minnesota is rolling admissions and they have quite a few supplemental essays. It might be wise to get started on those.
  18. rxlea

    rxlea Unicorn in training Moderator Emeritus

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    Without much experience or EC's and a PCAT composite of 69, your application is average at best. Your personal statement needs to be good. I don't know that much about Nova, though.
  19. rxlea

    rxlea Unicorn in training Moderator Emeritus

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    Have they been giving you good feedback for your mock interviews? Your app is great but without a solid interview to close the deal, you're going to have some trouble. I don't know that much about the LOR requirement (the pharmacist one); whether or not they want a "practicing pharmacist" is up to the institution. It is probably best to inquire about this at each school.
  20. pharmgirl1989

    pharmgirl1989

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    a. Schools you are applying to
    UT autin is my first choice. If not that then Umaryland or UIC or Rutgers or SUNY buffalo, Texas Tech U.

    b. Overall GPA
    3.21
    c. Math/Science GPA
    3.21 (its about the same because I am a molecular and cellular biology major)
    d. GPA in last one or two school years
    3.6 - and they are mostly sciences classes. I do have an overall upward trend because I didnt horrible freshman year.
    e. Complete PCAT scores (or just composite)

    Verbal - 77
    Bio - 80
    RC - 99
    QA - 92
    chem - 96
    composite - 97

    writing - 3/3

    f. Pharmacy experience obtained
    shadowed an independent pharmacists for about a week =( not sure if I can get a LOR from him though

    g. Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary)
    I plan to submit my application by mid september or latest oct. 1st. i am still working on my personal statement.


    I also have 3 LORs two from professors whose classes I had taken and a third from a professor I did biochemistry research for, for almost two years.

    I am really worried that my lack of pharmacy experience and low gpa will hurt me a lot to go to these top ranked schools. Will my high pcat score be able to overcome this?
  21. rxlea

    rxlea Unicorn in training Moderator Emeritus

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    Your grades are average but you make up for it with your PCAT score. I doubt the CC LOR will have any negative effect since you will have 2 additional (strong) LORs to make up for it. Seems like you've been committed to your EC's for quite some time which is a good thing. With a strong interview, I don't forsee any issue.
  22. Carboxide

    Carboxide

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    Lol...Michigan State does not have a pharmacy school. Do you realize this?

    Otherwise, looks good...
  23. adma826

    adma826

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    a. Schools you are applying to: USN only
    b. Overall GPA -
    3.73
    c. Math/Science GPA -
    between 3.5 and 3.6 - just got an A- in Org Chem so prob around 3.56 or so.
    d. GPA in last one or two school years -
    not sure - got my degree in 1997
    e. Complete PCAT scores (or just composite) -
    91 Composite: 77 Chem, 73 QA, 84 Bio, 92 Verbal and 96 RC, 3/3 writing.
    f. Pharmacy experience obtained -
    will be volunteering at the military pharmacy this fall 4-8 hours per week.
    g. Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary) -
    will be submitting this fall - USN is non pharmcas and the app is not out yet.

    Additionally, the following will help us gauge your chances but are more optional:

    h. Number of LORs and source of LORs -
    USN does not want any.
    i. Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience -
    haven't worked in a while, am a SAHM to four kids - did medical transcription at last job, this past year was a Cub Scout leader (for my son's den) and Cookie Manager (for my daughter's GS Brownie troop)
    j. Self-perception of interview skills -
    OK to good. People say I am articulate but I definitely interview better with friendly interviewers than with ones that try to throw me off on purpose - I get self-conscious. I plan on practicing replies to as many questions/topics I can think of.
    k. Overall impression of personal statement quality -
    haven't written one yet. I am waiting for the app from USN to see what they ask. I am a good writer though, usually get high praise for my writing style in critical/persuasive work. I am not sure how well that will translate to writing a personal statement.


    Furthermore...

    I still have Org Chem 2 to take and won't be taking it until Spring, at a community college because the local university is several times more expensive than the community college, and I am paying out of pocket. All other USN pre-reqs are done, though I plan on taking a 4 cr Pathophysiology course and re-taking (as a refresher) Microbiology in the spring.I think my stats are OK but wondering if anyone familiar with USN has any advice/impressions for me. I *think* I can get an interview and I am of the understanding the interview is HUGE for USN, so I need to really wow them in the interview. Is that correct?
  24. ahaq319

    ahaq319

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    Schools I am applying to
    UI-Chicago, LECOM, UMKC, Kentucky, Sullivan
    Overall GPA
    2.82 (after fall it will be around 3.0)
    Math/Science GPA
    2.8 (after fall 2010 it'll be around a 2.95)
    Pharmacy experience obtained
    Working for Walgreens as a technician for almost a year now, will be nationally certified in a few months
    Date of application submission
    This Fall/Early winter
    Number of LORs and source of LORs-
    I will have at least 3. 1 from my pharmacy manager, 1 from my organic chemistry professor, and possibly my anatomy and physiology professor, along with one from my advisor
    Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience
    Apart of 3 muslim youth group on campus and involved in the community. Have volunteered at Red Cross and a few homeless shelters
    Self-perception of interview skills
    Fairly good with interviews, initially nervous but I typically warm up and adjust easily
    Overall impression of personal statement quality
    Was considering majoring in english before pharmacy, so it shouldn't be too bad :)

    I initially did fail organic due to explainable family circumstances, I retook it and got a C. Im debating taking it a third time or not. However in organic 2 I have a b+/a- right now. Also, I will be taking the PCAT in October.
  25. SpellBreaker

    SpellBreaker

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    a. Schools you are applying to: all the california schools (don't want to take pcats)
    b. Overall GPA -
    ~3.5
    c. Math/Science GPA - ~3.5
    d. GPA in last one or two school years -
    3.8
    e. Complete PCAT scores (or just composite) - not planning on taking the pcats
    f. Pharmacy experience obtained - 100+ hours
    g. Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary) - will be submitting this fall

    Additionally, the following will help us gauge your chances but are more optional:

    h. Number of LORs and source of LORs -
    3 (pharmacist, vice chairman of chemistry/biochemistry department of my school, and my lab research mentor)
    i. Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience - I tutored english and math for K-12 for a year. I am currently a tutor for chemistry and biology at a community college and have been for 1 and 1/2 years. I also have been a TA for chemistry and biology labs for 3 semesters.
    j. Self-perception of interview skills - decent. I'm quick on my feet when answering questions. I can keep calm. I just hope my anxiety doesn't get the best of me in the interview, if i do get one.
    k. Overall impression of personal statement quality - not finished with it, but so far it's pretty good. I plan on getting someone to help me with it.

    I did pretty bad my on my first couple of semesters in college. My more recent semesters' GPA were all above 3.7. Also I plan on receiving my BS in biochemistry at the end of spring 2011.
    Thank you for any feedback
  26. SarahLorraine

    SarahLorraine P3

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    Hey! Thanks for all the people responding to these questions!!


    a. Schools you are applying to

    UGA and Mercer

    b. Overall GPA

    ~3.12

    c. Math/Science GPA

    UGA Prereq GPA is 3.12, Math/Sci GPA is ~3.3 (I've done better in chemistry than in Bio)

    d. GPA in last one or two school years

    ~3.3

    e. Complete PCAT scores (or just composite)

    85 composite, 80 bio, 91 chem, 90 rc, 79 verbal, 48 quantitative (I got an A in Calculus - which I'm hoping will offset this a bit), 3/3 writing

    f. Pharmacy experience obtained

    Part time work at a hospital pharmacy for ~9 months

    g. Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary)

    Aug 4 (for both apps and supplemental)

    h. Number of LORs and source of LORs

    two excellent ones from long time employers, 1 very good one (just guessing) from DOP at hospital pharmacy that I worked at (Mercer grad)
    I'm going to add one from my OChem professor that I'm doing research with this year once he gets to know me better

    i. Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience

    BBA in Business Management
    Volunteer for special needs kids baseball games (just started that this year), business experience for about 7 years, NFL cheerleader 3 years, Resident assistant 1 year, Membership Director of my sorority (as well as some other less significant sorority leadership positions), AFL cheerleader 1 season, College dance team 1 year

    j. Self-perception of interview skills

    I interview well. People tell me I'm articulate fairly often. I'm friendly and confident and eager.

    k. Overall impression of personal statement quality

    It rocks! lol UGA has its own application. They don't get to see my personal statement. I wish they did.



    I feel pretty good about acceptances. I'm just worried about my average gpa and PCAT. What do you guys think? It's hard coming on here because quite a few of you have excellent GPAs and PCAT scores!! It makes me a little worried. :oops:
    Last edited: 08.07.10
  27. Julietthelove

    Julietthelove

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    a. Schools you are applying to

    Nova Southwestern U, Iowa University, Midwestern U, UIC, Southern university of Edwardsville, Rosalind Franklin University, College of Notre Dame in Maryland,

    b. Overall GPA

    ~3.09

    c. Math/Science GPA

    2.7
    d. GPA in last one or two school years

    ~3.2

    e. Complete PCAT scores (or just composite)
    Take the exam in august 2010

    f. Pharmacy experience obtained


    None
    g. Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary)

    Aug 12

    h. Number of LORs and source of LORs


    i. Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience


    I volunteer at private practice for 2 years. I have volunteer in hospital setting for a year. I have also been research assistant. I presented my work at the national level in neuroscience. I have went to neuroscience convention and present work at the graduate level.
    j. Self-perception of interview skills

    I interview well.

    k. Overall impression of personal statement quality

    the Personal statement is strong.
  28. lookieloo

    lookieloo

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    a. Schools you are applying to
    UCSD, LLU
    b. Overall GPA
    3.8

    c. Math/Science GPA
    3.75
    d. GPA in last one or two school years
    4.0
    e. Complete PCAT scores (or just composite)
    None required
    f. Pharmacy experience obtained
    None
    g. Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary)
    Pending

    h. Number of LORs and source of LORs
    2 podiatrists, 1 pharmacist and 1 spiritual leader
    i. Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience
    Practicing podiatrist for the past 2 years, completed 3 year surgical residency
    j. Self-perception of interview skills
    Excellent
    k. Overall impression of personal statement quality
    Not horrible, but not amazing
    Last edited: 08.07.10
  29. HilaryG

    HilaryG

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    a. Schools you are applying to- University of Utah, Idaho State University, University of Colorado-Denver, University of Oklahoma, and University of Southern Nevada. (Utah resident)
    b. Overall GPA-
    3.45
    c. Math/Science GPA- 3.20
    d. GPA in last one or two school years- 3.5
    e. Complete PCAT scores (or just composite)- 67 composite, retaking in October (must do better in math!)
    f. Pharmacy experience obtained- 2 years retail pharmacy technician
    g. Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary)- the end of August
    h. Number of LORs and source of LORs- 3 solid LOR's (pharmacy manager, pharmacist, and biochemistry professor)
    i. Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience- Vice-president of pre-pharmacy club and physiology lab instructor/tutor
    j. Self-perception of interview skills- Need to do a mock interview, but I believe I will do well
    k. Overall impression of personal statement quality- In progress- talks about hardships I've overcame from losing my mother to cancer at a young age
  30. coolpharm

    coolpharm

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    Status:
    Pre-Pharmacy
    Schools you are applying to: Wayne State University , Ferris,

    Overall GPA: 3.8
    ( retook micro and anatomy and got As the second time because i got a B- in both the first time. what also worries me is i have a WF in a non required 2 credit reading class because my prof. said she didn't get me withdrawal request on time) i know this will affect my application not hopefully i won't get rejected because of this.


    Pharmacy experience obtained: 3 years pharmacy tech.

    Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary) fall 2010


    Number of LORs and source of LORs: 2. one from an employee and other from a prof.

    Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience: i have close to 1,000 hrs of volunteering at church and hospital

    thanks for the advice
    Last edited: 08.24.10
  31. chem

    chem Pre-pharmacy Student

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    a. Schools you are applying to: I'm not sure where to apply to. Can you give me opinions on what schools might accept me?
    b. Overall GPA: 3.3
    c. Math/Science GPA: 3.3
    d. GPA in last one or two school years: ~3.6
    e. Complete PCAT scores (or just composite): I take the PCAT in October
    f. Pharmacy experience obtained: recently hired in a pharmacy, in the process of being certified
    g. Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary): Fall 2010
    h. Number of LORs and source of LORs- Three. 2 pharmacists and 1 Professor.
    i. Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience: customer service desk at grocery store for 3 years. chemistry research for one summer. hospital volunteer for 6 months working in pharmacy and patient care (4-6 hours per week). habitat for humanity volunteer for almost 2 years
    j. Self-perception of interview skills: I believe I am good at interviewing but I definitely will take advantage of mock interviews.
    k. Overall impression of personal statement quality: good but I will have it revised by the writing center professor at my college
    Last edited: 08.09.10
  32. goodfellas

    goodfellas

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    SDN 2+ Year Member
    a. Schools you are applying to
    pitt, tju, cinci, maryland, temple, st johns fisher (listed from top choice to last choice)
    b. Overall GPA
    3.2ish
    c. Math/Science GPA
    2.9
    d. GPA in last one or two school years
    3.35 or more
    e. Complete PCAT scores (or just composite)
    65% composite from Oct 09. I forget my stats except chem was 77% and Math was 65%. Reading comp was lowest in the mid 50s. I'm retaking on August 21st in hopes of at least 70% composite
    f. Pharmacy experience obtained
    3 years, over 1500 hrs retail
    currently shadowing in a hospital
    doing pharm research this fall semester (+ hopefully longer)
    g. Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary)
    within the next 3-4 weeks
    h. Number of LORs and source of LORs
    3 LORS (1 pharmacist, 1 ochem professor, 1 pharmacy law professor)..i might get another professor, too. the references i already have are quite good--I've gotten nice feedback from their LORS before
    i. Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience
    coaching youth soccer and wrestling, former-service based club president, intramurals, teaching assistant, a few clubs, non-rx research
    j. Self-perception of interview skills
    strong interview skills. i've fared very well in the past
    k. Overall impression of personal statement quality
    not finished yet. last yr's was decent. i'll prob talk about my experiences/goals within pharmacy and my drive since i'm re-applying

    Thanks guys! Good luck to everyone. Feel free to private message me too if I wasn't clear on anything.
    Last edited: 03.15.12
  33. lauradiddle

    lauradiddle OU's Token Longhorn

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    I know what you mean. It's easy to feel unsure on here when a lot of people are posting things like, "Hey I have a 3.9 GPA and 95th percentile PCAT... do you think they'll wanna interview me???"

    I'm in the same boat as you, except your GPA and PCAT are a little better and your extra-curriculars are WAY better. You got this. :)
  34. b1234

    b1234

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    If you look at statistics - for schools that are the "hardest" to get into - average GPA and PCAT for accepted students are just over 3.6 and 80. For most schools it's more like somewhere between 3.3 and 3.4 and low to mid 70's.
    Also people with low(er) PCAT scores and no bachelor's degree will normally have GPA's scrutinized a bit more or at least be held to a higher standard when it comes to GPA. Plenty of other things can make up for a GPA that is below average but above minimum - while a high GPA cannot (easily) make up for certain other deficiencies (like come across as a total idiot in an interview or negative LOR's - among other things).
  35. sbpharm

    sbpharm

    Joined:
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    Status:
    Pre-Pharmacy
    a. Schools you are applying to
    Texas Southern
    b. Overall GPA - (3.33 UT) (3.7 Community College)
    c. Math/Science GPA ~3.33. all my science classes are B's though...
    d. GPA in last one or two school years - first year in college, but I have 81 hours complete.
    e. Complete PCAT scores (or just composite) - taking it in January 2011
    f. Pharmacy experience obtained- Pharmacy Aide (retail 50 hrs)
    g. Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary)
    deadline is February 15 2011
    Additionally, the following will help us gauge your chances but are more optional:
    h. Number of LORs and source of LORs
    3 - 1. Pharmacist 2. chem Professor 3. advisor/professor
    i. Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience
    Chemistry Tutor, Service Chair for Fraternity, Pre-Pharm Association
    j. Self-perception of interview skills - okay..average. not that great
    k. Overall impression of personal statement quality
    Working on it with English profs
  36. SarahLorraine

    SarahLorraine P3

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    lauradiddle - I like you!! :D You just made my day. :) Hopefully we've BOTH got this!
  37. Ji the Captain

    Ji the Captain The Unbreakable

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    SDN 2+ Year Member
    Hate to blow your bubble but UMKC is NOT accepting any new students this application year. sorry.

    "The School of Pharmacy will not admit Pharm.D. students on the UMKC or MU Columbia satellite campuses in Fall 2011. The first 4 year Pharm.D. class admitted to UMKC and to the MU satellite programs will be in Fall 2012. This will include 123 students total, 95 students admitted to the KC campus and 28 students admitted to the MU campus. Specific information regarding changes in admission criteria, pre-requisites and curriculum will be available later this year."
    http://pharmacy.umkc.edu/admissions/pharmd/requirements/college/index.html
  38. mcalabr3

    mcalabr3

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    Just an fyi, some schools even though their application deadline is in February they might not take a January exam date because it can take upwards of 6 weeks to get the results. I'd look more into that. I'd also highly suggest signing up for the October test date.
  39. pharmD eighty7

    pharmD eighty7 I smoke rocks!

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    I think your stats are very good. I am not familiar with USN, but if I were you I would do a little research on their site. Find out their demographics and look at the interview questions on SDN! They are helpful! Also look at pharm apps.com (or something like that). If I were you I wold apply to more than one school. You might not get into USN. Stranger things have happened, even with your grades/app. I see no reason to put all of your eggs into one basket.
  40. pharmD eighty7

    pharmD eighty7 I smoke rocks!

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    Well, your GPA is not great by any means...Most schools I have seen have a minimum of 3.0 I think, it may maybe a 2.8. I would most certainly check into that. You do have pharmacy experience, which is a plus, as well as volunteer work. I dont think you will get into UK, just going to be straight up with you. The other schools I am not familiar with. What you need is an excellent statement. Have everyone read it, professors, pharmacists, peers, etc. You are also going to need at good PCAT score. I'm thinking 70+ at least. I would go on the PCAT website and buy their practice exams. They are very indicative of the actual test in my opinion. Good luck!
  41. pharmD eighty7

    pharmD eighty7 I smoke rocks!

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    I feel confident you will get in. An 85 composite is very good. Your GPA is little low, but your extracurriculars make up for it. Apply to more schools if you want. Samford is down your way. It can't hurt to keep your options open!
  42. coolpharm

    coolpharm

    Joined:
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    Messages:
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    Status:
    Pre-Pharmacy
    Schools you are applying to: Wayne State University , Ferris,

    Overall GPA: 3.8
    ( retook micro and anatomy and got As the second time because i got a B- in both the first time. what also worries me is i have a WF in a non required 2 credit reading class because my prof. said she didn't get me withdrawal request on time) i know this will affect my application not hopefully i won't get rejected because of this.


    Complete PCAT scores (or just composite): 85 comp.

    Pharmacy experience obtained: 3 years pharmacy tech.

    Date of application submission (PharmCAS/primary and secondary) fall 2010


    Number of LORs and source of LORs: 2. one from an employee and other from a prof.

    Non-pharmacy work and/or volunteer experience: i have close to 1,000 hrs of volunteering at church and hospital

    thanks for the advice
  43. adma826

    adma826

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    Thanks so much for your feedback. i appreciate you taking the time to answer.

    My only other option would be the Creighton distance program, unfortunately. I can't move from Las Vegas. Otherwise, I'd be looking into what I need to do to apply at UNM as well.
  44. pharmD eighty7

    pharmD eighty7 I smoke rocks!

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    I don't think you'll have a problem getting in.
  45. Goriyor

    Goriyor

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    Messages:
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    Status:
    Pre-Pharmacy
    SDN 2+ Year Member
    Overall GPA: 3.55
    Math/Science GPA: 3.7
    Electives GPA: 3.4

    PCAT: not taking it bc applying to skools that dont require it
    Volunteer: a little but got a pharmcist said that he is gonna look out for me

    I am not going to take my PCAT this year but i am applying at Pharmacy Schools that dont require PCAT, such as: 2 schools in boston (worchester and manchester), Purdue, sum other schools


    1. So can anyone tell wut i need to do to get accepted into a Pharmacy School??
    2. Wut schools should i apply to that will make my grades competitive to those schools?
    3. Does anyone know other schools that dont require PCAT besides the one i mentioned??
    4. Wuts the chances of me getting into a pharmacy skool?
  46. SarahLorraine

    SarahLorraine P3

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    Thanks so much for your feedback PharmD eighty7! That helps to ease my nerves a bit. :)
  47. SHC1984

    SHC1984 Removed

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    A friend of mine graduated from UNC with a degree in Chemistry/Biology. She wants to know her chances of getting into pharmacy school with a 3.0 GPA. She told me she is planning on applying to 7 pharmacy schools. She wants to know people's opinion on this forum.

    I personally told her that pharmacy is saturated and to look at another profession, but she seems set on pharmacy. :rolleyes:

    I told her, her chances are good b/c pharmacy school is not hard to get into like medical school...but she is still worried and wants to know her chances of getting in from this forum.

    Do people even have to reapply for pharmacy school? lol...I mean with all these new schools popping up the number of qualified individuals seems less than the number of seats available.
  48. pharmstudent89

    pharmstudent89

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    I have two failed classes, organic chemistry 2 and human physiology, I retook both and made a C in both classes. My current overall GPA is a 3.09.

    Here are my grades:
    Biol 1 C
    Biol 1 Lab B
    Biol 2 C+ (retook made D to a C+)
    Biol 2 Lab B
    Chem 1 B+
    Chem 1 lab B
    Chem 2 A-
    Chem 2 Lab B
    Organic Chem 1 C
    Organic Chem lab 1 B
    Organic Chem 2 C (retook made F to a C)
    Organic Chem 2 lab C
    Human Phiysiology C (retook made F to a C)
    Physical Chemistry C+
    Microbiology C+
    Microbiology lab C
    Psychology A
    English 1 A
    English 2 A
    Physics 1 B
    Physics 1 Lab B
    Physics C-
    Physics 2 lab A-
    Calculus 1 B
    Calculus 2 A
    Statics A
    History 1 A
    History 2 A
    Art History A
    Philosophy B+
    Political Science 1 A
    Political Science 2 A
    Biochemistry 1 B
    Biochemistry 1 Lab B
    Genetics B

    I have not took my PCAT yet, plan on taking it in September 2010. I am planning on apply for the 2010/2011 cycle.
    I will start volunteering with a pharmacist now.
    Please let me know if you guys have any insight.
    If you were once in a similar situation and where you got accepted, what your GPA (both prerequirements and overall GPA) was and your PCAT score.

    Thank You
  49. nexus14

    nexus14

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    I can image your friend's disappointment when she inquired you, a pharmacy student, regarding her chances of getting in and only being told that pharmacy is saturated. :laugh:

    First off, any extracurriculars or volunteer experience?
    What 7 schools?

    Based on GPA alone (3.0), I say her chances are low to average. For what it's worth, average GPA of applicants in my area is 3.3-3.5
  50. UyenRita

    UyenRita working to be better...

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    PCAT in September? ...... :eek::confused:
    Your chances depend on which school you will apply and also depends on your PCAT score too.
    Your grades somehow make me think you should better to major in Art/Social Science than Natural Science. ;)
    Are you really interested in science and pharmacy, may I ask?

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