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I am on now. So it seems to be working.
FYI - here's the link to get to just the lectures, if that's what you're trying to do, if not, well, screw you, here it is anywayIs blackboard down for anyone else? This is what I get for actually trying to stay on top of ****.
That p*sses me off - I stream because I have two kids, and do research on the side, streaming allows me to do that.Don't you just like it when lecturers, like the one today, talk about the students who show up to class for lectures as being "motivated" and ready to learn. And that they are going to make great doctors. I guess since I stream, (and sometimes watch lectures not just once, but twice in the comforts of my home, and in pajamas, and at times pausing the replay to let what i'm hearing soak in), I'm therefore not motivated enough, and probably won't become a good doctor. Hmn.
That p*sses me off - I stream because I have two kids, and do research on the side, streaming allows me to do that.
Don't you hate it when curmudgeon profs think that the way they did it is the only way.
I streamed from Philly today who-hoooo! I'm going to the Mutter Medical museum tomorrow-- geek out!!!
I am still deciding on which medical school to attend and was hoping you guys could help me out. I was wondering what you guys see the future of Wayne State School of Medicine to be (by future I am talking about the near future being the next 1-10 years)? Increasing class sizes to 400? Less funding from the state? DMC screwing students over? Please provide some insight on the future if you can!
Thanks in advance!!
This might be a better question for someone in the administration... I do not think they will increase the class size to 400 within 5 yrs. I do not think funding will drop... I don't think the DMC will screw us over until 2009 or 10 whenever the next contract expires. I am not sure how much students actually know..
I am still deciding on which medical school to attend and was hoping you guys could help me out. I was wondering what you guys see the future of Wayne State School of Medicine to be (by future I am talking about the near future being the next 1-10 years)? Increasing class sizes to 400? Less funding from the state? DMC screwing students over? Please provide some insight on the future if you can!
Thanks in advance!!
Answers to your questions in order:
1. Lots of construction and headache
2. Doubt it. The auditoriums can't hold that many.
3. Probably since the state can't resolve its budget crisis. That means higher and higher tuition each year with no end in sight.
4. DMC has been screwing students over for as long as I know. For years it has been with bad work environments. Now they want to bring in MSU to cut us down at the knee and take away WSU's claim to being the best clinical education anywhere.
By the way, WSU and DMC have not signed the new agreement yet. They are still "working out the details," according to two very reliable sources. So, look for more squabbling between WSU and Wayne, and even more than this year with MSU now in the picture.
FYI: there is no way in the world I am staying here for residency in such a hostile and unstable work environment.
Answers to your questions in order:
1. Lots of construction and headache
2. Doubt it. The auditoriums can't hold that many.
3. Probably since the state can't resolve its budget crisis. That means higher and higher tuition each year with no end in sight.
4. DMC has been screwing students over for as long as I know. For years it has been with bad work environments. Now they want to bring in MSU to cut us down at the knee and take away WSU's claim to being the best clinical education anywhere.
By the way, WSU and DMC have not signed the new agreement yet. They are still "working out the details," according to two very reliable sources. So, look for more squabbling between WSU and Wayne, and even more than this year with MSU now in the picture.
FYI: there is no way in the world I am staying here for residency in such a hostile and unstable work environment.
Knowing what you know now, woul dyou choose to attend another medical school if given the options solely based on the uncertainties? Take this question however you want it.
I'll answer this a few different ways.
If you asked me, "Would you do it all again?" My response would be, "Absolutely not; but I wouldn't not do it once." That is of med school in general and not specific to WSU.
As for Wayne, we have to put up with a lot more headaches than most schools. We've gone through 3 deans in 3 years, one assistant dean deceased (very sad day when that happened), trying to take exams during construction and constant concrete drilling and much of the building heat leaving through the enormous 2 story hole in the side of the building, two monstrous tuition hikes with no promise of relief (again, WSU is now the 8th most expensive public med school in the country and it is the largest), a clinical environment where everyone in the city is hostile by nature, and a #$%@*&% *%$^$^$$ politician running the DMC that goes out of his way to make our lives worse. Plus the WSU administration is divided about equally into two groups: those that care about us and want to help, and those that couldn't care less about us and look to screw us over at every opportunity; unfortunately we have to deal much more often with the latter.
Whether or not we will be better doctors than other schools going into residency after going through all this...????????????? How would you know the world has air if you spent your entire life underwater? You can and want to do this only once, and so I cannot make a thorough comparison between Wayne and other schools. But I will say that I am so very tired of being Wayned.
Knowing what you know now, woul dyou choose to attend another medical school if given the options solely based on the uncertainties? Take this question however you want it.
I got almost all of my first choices too - Hopefully that's a good thing .Yea!!! I am so happy -- I got almost all of my first choices for year 3
I'm in group 6 and I start off at Providence for OB
I did pretty well
July-->Pediatrics-->St. John- Inpatient and Childrens- Outpatient
September-->Medicine-->Sinai/Grace Hospital
November-->Family Medicine-->101 E. Alexandrine
January-->Neurology-->V. A. Medical Center
February-->Psychiatry-->Henry Ford Hospital
March-->Surgery-->Oakwood / Veterans Administration Medical Center
May-->OBGYN-->Providence Hospital
But man, if someone would swap me a spot at Oakwood or the VA for medicine, I'd be on cloud 9.
I could be wrong, but I think you have to swap entire schedules, even if you are within the same group (which I don't think makes any sense if you are in the same group since it doesn't mess with any of their numbers... but whatever).
Maybe I should've taken those other interviews? I'm going to reapply, I think, this place sounds horrible!
UMP,
Every school has its "things". Don't worry about all the anxiety and stress people vent here as Wayne is a good school and many students are very happy (including myself). I don't regret my decision to attend Wayne over other schools and I would make the same decision again
Things will be great!
I think that if you look back at roughly this time of year in the old thread, you'll find that the same thing happened then - it's a rough time for almost everyone. I agree, I wish that people wouldn't bag on the school with quite so much force, because like it or not, we're all married to this place now.I know, I know... I was kidding, I'm just sick of people shitting on the school all the time... although I have no real frame of reference, but I think the school doesn't get the respect it deserves on these boards because people are so negative... It doesn't matter in the end, I've heard absolutely great things about this school from all the grads and current students I've talked, I think there are just a select few stressed-out pissed-off people that all congregate on this thread
I think that if you look back at roughly this time of year in the old thread, you'll find that the same thing happened then - it's a rough time for almost everyone. I agree, I wish that people wouldn't bag on the school with quite so much force, because like it or not, we're all married to this place now.
UMP,
Every school has its "things". Don't worry about all the anxiety and stress people vent here as Wayne is a good school and many students are very happy (including myself). I don't regret my decision to attend Wayne over other schools and I would make the same decision again
Things will be great!
Maybe I should've taken those other interviews? I'm going to reapply, I think, this place sounds horrible!
Just your friendly neighborhood 4th year sitting on his ass and wanted to chime in on the subject. I don't know of any med school where the best years of your education are the first two. Quite frankly, if they are, I would stay the hell away. Memorizing biochem pathways and muscle origins and insertions does NOT a good doctor make. I will grant you that it seems that a lot of the administration seems to have lost their "give a $*%^" but you also have to bear in mind that the people teaching the majority of 1st and 2nd year lectures are research scientists. You remember those people from college right. Remember how engaging and social they were. Come on, this is why they're not allowed to work with people on a regular basis.
That said, I would put my clinical education from 3rd and 4th years up against anywhere in the country. For once, the admins weren't lying on admissions day when they touted this. I think on the whole, you'll find that your 3rd and 4th years are much better run, and are obviously much more valuable to your knowledge base.
The population that we treat in Detroit are on the whole a very underserved and just a generally ill group. Also, the medical systems serving them are already bursting at the seams. This basically sets you up for some of the best hands on learning there could be. Not only will you some pathologies that other students have only read about, but you'll probably be actively involved in that patient's daily care.
For all of the soon to be 3rd years, be ready to work your ass off, but also to actually remember why you wanted to become a physician in the first place. For all of the soon to be 1st years, unfortunately 1st and 2nd years pretty much suck wherever you go. Don't let the ramblings of a few disgruntled current 1st and 2nd years discourage you from coming here.
Sorry for the book, I've had the last month off and I'm getting bored. Oh yeah, 4th year rocks......
I did pretty well
July-->Pediatrics-->St. John- Inpatient and Childrens- Outpatient
September-->Medicine-->Sinai/Grace Hospital
November-->Family Medicine-->101 E. Alexandrine
January-->Neurology-->V. A. Medical Center
February-->Psychiatry-->Henry Ford Hospital
March-->Surgery-->Oakwood / Veterans Administration Medical Center
May-->OBGYN-->Providence Hospital
But man, if someone would swap me a spot at Oakwood or the VA for medicine, I'd be on cloud 9.
so is it hard to make the seminars or required lectures during 3rd year rotations? someone mentioned that you cannot be late? how does this work if you get stuck in traffic due to an accident? too bad/so sad??
I was just saying today that I was hoping for another good email war to fill up our inboxes.
I've since asked for a pony and honors for 3rd/4th year.
I'll answer this a few different ways.
If you asked me, "Would you do it all again?" My response would be, "Absolutely not; but I wouldn't not do it once." That is of med school in general and not specific to WSU.
As for Wayne, we have to put up with a lot more headaches than most schools. We've gone through 3 deans in 3 years, one assistant dean deceased (very sad day when that happened), trying to take exams during construction and constant concrete drilling and much of the building heat leaving through the enormous 2 story hole in the side of the building, two monstrous tuition hikes with no promise of relief (again, WSU is now the 8th most expensive public med school in the country and it is the largest), a clinical environment where everyone in the city is hostile by nature, and a #$%@*&% *%$^$^$$ politician running the DMC that goes out of his way to make our lives worse. Plus the WSU administration is divided about equally into two groups: those that care about us and want to help, and those that couldn't care less about us and look to screw us over at every opportunity; unfortunately we have to deal much more often with the latter.
Whether or not we will be better doctors than other schools going into residency after going through all this...????????????? How would you know the world has air if you spent your entire life underwater? You can and want to do this only once, and so I cannot make a thorough comparison between Wayne and other schools. But I will say that I am so very tired of being Wayned.
I was just saying today that I was hoping for another good email war to fill up our inboxes.
I've since asked for a pony and honors for 3rd/4th year.
Laa laa laa.... I'm studying on friday night. I am a sucka!
Jenn and Inked (and fun8 too) are you guys OB gunners? I picked OB/gyn last because I'm hoping to potentially make an impression at hutzel and check it out as a possible residency option. Just curious
Laa laa laa.... I'm studying on friday night. I am a sucka!
Jenn and Inked (and fun8 too) are you guys OB gunners? I picked OB/gyn last because I'm hoping to potentially make an impression at hutzel and check it out as a possible residency option. Just curious
I am an OB gunner...I'll admit it. I was actually hoping for a slightly harder surgery rotation, but I'll take what I've got because I really wanted the group 2 order. I've got a blackboard call out for surgery switches...but if you guys know of someone wanting to get rid of St. John's or DRH/Harper let me know.
is your "i'm the baby!" label a reference to the old Dinosaurs tv show??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It4Dovy1hNM
is your "i'm the baby!" label a reference to the old Dinosaurs tv show??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It4Dovy1hNM
Yes! Your the first person to get the correct TV show. She pretty much is "the baby" - you should hear the fit she throws if she realizes she is all alone in a room...then you come walking in and it is just all smiles!!! Nothing in the world was wrong!! She can turn off the screams instantly - really scary that she has figured this out by 8 months old.
Jen, don't worry about your surgery rotation at Oakwood - you'll actually learn a lot and can do really well on your boards. They have a fantastic director down there.
It'll be fun to see everyone at Childrens in July. Maybe I'll wear an "inked_caduceus" sign so we can all meet up.
And I am in no way, nor every will be an OB gunner. I'm internal/ER all the way. In the immortal words of Garrick "I don't wanna know nothin 'bout birthin no babies"
Jen, don't worry about your surgery rotation at Oakwood - you'll actually learn a lot and can do really well on your boards. They have a fantastic director down there.