What are the most liberal (non-conservative) medical schools you can think of?

[Gauss44]

Title says it all. There's no one specific topic in mind. Both long and short answer are welcome, as are qualified and unqualified answers.

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[deleted407021]

Liberal and conservative are fairly broad terms. How do you mean?

 

[Lambda Phage]

Title says it all. There's no one specific topic in mind. Both long and short answer are welcome, as are qualified and unqualified answers.

Loma Linda

 

[FindMeOnTheLinks]

I've heard Albert Einstein has an extremely liberal atmosphere.

 

[Lawpy]

Title says it all. There's no one specific topic in mind. Both long and short answer are welcome, as are qualified and unqualified answers.

Pretty much any school except for the religious ones is "socially" liberal (more so for the top tiers). Economic liberalism is a whole separate issue.

 

[allantois]

Those located in liberal areas?

 

[Theafoni]

UW seattle

 

[hoihaie]

Pretty much any school except for the religious ones is "socially" liberal (more so for the top tiers). Economic liberalism is a whole separate issue.

what do you mean by economically liberal?

 

[karayaa]

Pretty much any school except for the religious ones is "socially" liberal (more so for the top tiers). Economic liberalism is a whole separate issue.

I'd say that social justice is popular amongst (some) "liberals" , yet SLU's (Jesuit) PH school is called the College for Public Health & Social Justice.

From http://www.llu.edu/medicine/about.page
Most medical students participate in two very popular University programs: Social Action Community Health System and Students for International Mission Service.
Social activism sounds liberal.

But liberal and conservative are thrown around so much, I'm not sure what you're talking about.

what do you mean by economically liberal?

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism
Economic liberalism is often associated with support for free markets and private ownership of capital goods...Economic liberalism also contrasts with protectionism because of its support for free trade and open markets. Historically, economic liberalism arose in response to mercantilism and feudalism. Today, economic liberalism is also generally considered to be opposed to non-capitalist economic orders, such as socialism, market socialism and planned economies.

Fiscal liberal/conservatism is something else, iirc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_conservatism

 

[hoihaie]

I'd say that social justice is popular amongst (some) "liberals" , yet SLU's (Jesuit) PH school is called the College for Public Health & Social Justice.

From http://www.llu.edu/medicine/about.page
Most medical students participate in two very popular University programs: Social Action Community Health System and Students for International Mission Service.
Social activism sounds liberal.

But liberal and conservative are thrown around so much, I'm not sure what you're talking about.


From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism
Economic liberalism is often associated with support for free markets and private ownership of capital goods...Economic liberalism also contrasts with protectionism because of its support for free trade and open markets. Historically, economic liberalism arose in response to mercantilism and feudalism. Today, economic liberalism is also generally considered to be opposed to non-capitalist economic orders, such as socialism, market socialism and planned economies.

Fiscal liberal/conservatism is something else, iirc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_conservatism

ah I guess I misread. I thought the person meant Medical school's have varying degree of economical liberalism

 

[DermViser]

UCSF

 

[MrTaco92]

The groovy UV

 

[hoihaie]

U of A? their undergrad is wild

 

[Lawpy]

I'd say that social justice is popular amongst (some) "liberals" , yet SLU's (Jesuit) PH school is called the College for Public Health & Social Justice.

From http://www.llu.edu/medicine/about.page
Most medical students participate in two very popular University programs: Social Action Community Health System and Students for International Mission Service.
Social activism sounds liberal.

But liberal and conservative are thrown around so much, I'm not sure what you're talking about.

Social activism isn't always socially liberal though.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economic_liberalism
Economic liberalism is often associated with support for free markets and private ownership of capital goods...Economic liberalism also contrasts with protectionism because of its support for free trade and open markets. Historically, economic liberalism arose in response to mercantilism and feudalism. Today, economic liberalism is also generally considered to be opposed to non-capitalist economic orders, such as socialism, market socialism and planned economies.
Fiscal liberal/conservatism is something else, iirc
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fiscal_conservatism

Just showing that OP can imply several types of liberalism/conservatism (even though in some aspects, liberalism = conservatism).

 

[Bovary]

I think from context, it was clear that the OP cares about social liberalism. I imagine these would be those in liberal areas (San francisco, vermont, seattle, etc). Also, private med schools are going to attract more wealthy students who will, on average, be more likely to have attended a liberal, private school for undergrad.

 

[mysdnhandle]

DO and Caribbean schools. Theyre not traditional so theyre liberal.

 

[Taco Time]

Anything in the Republic of Texas


On a serious note, the location of a school is a big determining factor. If a school is not religiously affiliated and is in a traditionally liberal state, chances are it's a liberal(er) med school.

 

[ndafife]

Depends on what you mean by liberal... If you want a liberal atmosphere socially/politically go to a school in a liberal state or city with no religious affiliation - schools like UW-Madison or UCSF come to mind.

If you want some traditional liberal values - like social justice, community service, etc... - your best bet is the urban Jesuit campuses - Loyola, SLU, etc...

 

[deanthedream17]

liberal: NYC schools, UCSF, loyola (accept illegal immigrants), DC Med schools, all of the HBCs, honestly the vast majority of medical schools (most universities are liberal bastions)
conservative: Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi (southern med schools in general), Loma Linda, not too many...

 

[AspiringERMD]

liberal: NYC schools, UCSF, loyola (accept illegal immigrants), DC Med schools, all of the HBCs, honestly the vast majority of medical schools (most universities are liberal bastions)
conservative: Tennessee, Alabama, Mississippi (southern med schools in general), Loma Linda, not too many...

I wouldn't call Loyola particularly socially liberal. They changed their policy to disallow same-sex weddings on campus when they became legal in Illinois, and one of their undergrad student organizations got put on probation for distributing condoms (and was also almost shut down for having a pro-choice message). The latter is a reason I decided not to apply there for medical school, even though that was an undergrad issue. The health center is also pretty anti-birth control...

I realize it's a private Jesuit school and have every right to do it though. FWIW, there seem to be plenty of socially liberal students anyway.

 

[deanthedream17]

I wouldn't call Loyola particularly socially liberal. They won't allow same-sex weddings on campus and one of their undergrad student organizations got put on probation for distributing condoms (and was also almost shut down for having a pro-choice message). The latter is a reason I decided not to apply there for medical school, even though that was an undergrad issue. The health center is also pretty anti-birth control...

Idk even though their religious affiliation might be Catholic (conservative), Jesuits are quite liberal. I know someone who went to the undergrad and they said it wasn't strict at all.

 

[NickNaylor]

Short of Loma Linda, which has policies in place that actually attempt to regulate student life, I'm not sure why this would really matter at all.

 

[Narmerguy]

Most professors tend to slant liberal, so as far as the administration/professors you'll find plenty of liberals wherever you go. I'm guessing what the OP is really interested in is the atmosphere/culture at various medical schools. This will largely be dependent on the students that go, so if you go to a state school in Eastern Tennessee, you'll get a fair share of conservative students even if the professors and administrators are more liberal (though plenty of them won't be). If you're going to a regional school in Washington (UW), you're very likely to find more liberal students. Private schools more often bring students from all over the country, so you may get a fair mix.

Demographically speaking, you're also dealing with a young, college-educated population, with a focus in the sciences, so in general you're already going to be more likely to find liberal leaning students than you would in the general population. But there are plenty of conservatives in that demographic as well and you'll find that over the course of medical school as students get older, accumulate debt, and more professionalized, their views may change on certain issues, particularly fiscal ones.

 

[AspiringERMD]

Idk even though their religious affiliation might be Catholic (conservative), Jesuits are quite liberal. I know someone who went to the undergrad and they said it wasn't strict at all.

Yeah, FOR a Christian institution, it's liberal, but it's mostly the student body that makes that liberal atmosphere. From what I can tell, the administration generally won't allow anything official that goes counter to what the Catholic church teaches (with the exception of student religious groups like the Muslim Student Alliance, Hillel, Secular Student Alliance, etc... and that last one took some extra convincing and religious students in support of it).

 

[Goro]

UCSF and Yale come to mind.

Title says it all. There's no one specific topic in mind. Both long and short answer are welcome, as are qualified and unqualified answers.

 

[DermViser]

Short of Loma Linda, which has policies in place that actually attempt to regulate student life, I'm not sure why this would really matter at all.

Maybe he thinks the liberal schools are "nicer" to their students.

 

[Gauss44]

Liberal and conservative are fairly broad terms. How do you mean?

I mean "liberal." I said what I mean. (If I meant something more specific I would have said so.) As the OP says, feel free to qualify or not qualify as you see fit.

 

[Gauss44]

Loma Linda

Haha. Ho hum.

 

[Gauss44]

Those located in liberal areas?

This is a good question. Some people think that college campuses can be very different from the surrounding community. On the other hand, it would stand to reason that one would influence the other due to proximity.

 

[Gauss44]

The groovy UV

University of Vermont? Virginia?

 

[Gauss44]

U of A? their undergrad is wild

Arizona?

Do you know anything about the medical school or only the undergrad part?

 

[Gauss44]

I think from context, it was clear that the OP cares about social liberalism. I imagine these would be those in liberal areas (San francisco, vermont, seattle, etc). Also, private med schools are going to attract more wealthy students who will, on average, be more likely to have attended a liberal, private school for undergrad.

My personal preferences were not included in the OP. The point you have in common with allenlchs, who I just responded to, is a good one IMO.

 

[Gauss44]

Social activism isn't always socially liberal though...

I agree.

 

[allantois]

This is a good question. Some people think that college campuses can be very different from the surrounding community. On the other hand, it would stand to reason that one would influence the other due to proximity.

My suspicion is that unlike general faculty who may not be able to get tenure elsewhere, most physicians can choose what area they want to live and ultimately teach in. But it's probably balanced out by the fact that physicians are generally more conservative than your typical college professor.

 

[MrTaco92]

University of Vermont? Virginia?

University of Vermont

 

[hoihaie]

Arizona?

Do you know anything about the medical school or only the undergrad part?

arizona, yeah. But i only know of their undergrad

 

[Cyberdyne 101]

There's a UC Berkeley-UCSF 5 year program and it sounds pretty liberal to me.

 

[Optimus-Prime]

Georgetown

 

[blackkrim]

Arizona?

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[Danbo1957]

UT-Austin is going to be liberal, they hired Clay Johnston, a neurologist from UCSF to be the dean. Lots of terms like "teamwork", and "reinventing the way doctors are trained"...

"The current antiquated models of health care are failing us. If we start from scratch, we can design a medical school that empowers doctors to embrace new technologies, work collaboratively, perform cutting-edge research — and, ultimately, better serve patients while driving down costs.”, Johnston

 

[Lambda Phage]

Despite the State of Arizona's reputation, Tucson is a pretty liberal city, especially in the area of the university (which is where the medical school is also located). I'm not sure what exactly constitutes a liberal medical school, but being in a left-leaning town probably helps.

Most large cities tend to be liberal

 

[blackkrim]

Most large cities tend to be liberal

That's true. Many people don't realize that, though, and ascribe the political tendencies of a given state to the cities within it. Political divides tend to fall along urban/rural rather than red state/blue state (a county-level breakdown of California is a great example of this).

EDIT: By the way, the other major city in Arizona is a counterexample to this. Phoenix is quite conservative for a big city.

 

[A7X]

The NJ schools for sure, and most, if not all east and west coast state schools would be considered liberal.

 

[allantois]

The NJ schools for sure, and most, if not all east and west coast state schools would be considered liberal.

I have a feeling that Carolinas and Georgia schools are quite not liberal

 

[ninjaman22]

Liberty University

 

[CherryRedDracul]

The NJ schools for sure, and most, if not all east and west coast state schools would be considered liberal.

I'd agree with NJ schools definitely.

 

[karayaa]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1829428/

Conservatism is associated with Being male, white, Protestant, intending to specialize in Surgery or anesthesiology/pathology/radiology [ie ROADS?], or currently or previously being married...Disagreement or strong disagreement with the statements, “I’m glad I chose to become a physician” and “Access to care is a fundamental human right.

Liberalism is associated with being black or Hispanic; those intending to become ob-gyns, psychiatrists, and pediatric subspecialists; and atheists, Jews, and adherents of eastern religions.

more (women) physicians self-characterized as liberal (28%) or very liberal (9%) than conservative (21%) or very conservative (6%).14 The Women Physicians’ Health Study also showed that conservatism was more common among older than younger women physicians

both in WPHS and in this medical student study, African Americans and psychiatrists were more likely to be liberal. A dissimilar finding was that Asians and Hispanics in WPHS were considerably less likely to be liberal than were other ethnicities, and this was true even when adjusted for country of origin.

Conclusion
it is clear that U.S. medical students (of both genders) and women physicians are considerably more likely to be liberal than conservative

 

[RJGOP]

UCSF

Most liberal med school in the most liberal city.

 

[blackkrim]

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1829428/

Conservatism is associated with Being male, white, Protestant, intending to specialize in Surgery or anesthesiology/pathology/radiology [ie ROADS?], or currently or previously being married...Disagreement or strong disagreement with the statements, “I’m glad I chose to become a physician” and “Access to care is a fundamental human right.

Liberalism is associated with being black or Hispanic; those intending to become ob-gyns, psychiatrists, and pediatric subspecialists; and atheists, Jews, and adherents of eastern religions.

more (women) physicians self-characterized as liberal (28%) or very liberal (9%) than conservative (21%) or very conservative (6%).14 The Women Physicians’ Health Study also showed that conservatism was more common among older than younger women physicians

both in WPHS and in this medical student study, African Americans and psychiatrists were more likely to be liberal. A dissimilar finding was that Asians and Hispanics in WPHS were considerably less likely to be liberal than were other ethnicities, and this was true even when adjusted for country of origin.

Conclusion
it is clear that U.S. medical students (of both genders) and women physicians are considerably more likely to be liberal than conservative

That's interesting. I didn't see it in the link, but is there any speculation on why conservative physicians are ostensibly less happy with their career choice?

 

[houston9]

Brown sounds pretty liberal