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we all have heard about the high tier allopathic schools, but what are top osteopathic schools? (especially when it comes to specializing)
we all have heard about the high tier allopathic schools, but what are top osteopathic schools? (especially when it comes to specializing)
DMU?
PCOM
NYCOM
MSUCOM
CCOM
DMU?
PCOM
NYCOM
MSUCOM
CCOM
MSUCOM? A little surprised on this one just b/c they have a ridiculous amount of primary care grads. Isn't that why they were ranked in US News for schools putting the most into primary care?
DMU's match list is going to be ridiculously impressive this year from what I have heard so far
since when does a lot of PCP's absolutely imply a poor program. MSU is probably the strongest program in the country, with the highest entrance requirements.
DMU?
DMU?
PCOM
NYCOM
MSUCOM
CCOM
My top three schools in northeast in no particular order.
PCOM
NYCOM
UMDNJ
UMDNJ does not send as many graduates into specialties as people seem to think. But I am not saying that makes it a bad school. I'm just saying there seems to be a myth around SDN that they do.
I thought we've been over this, lol.
as long as the school has solid and stabile clinical rotations and affiliated residency programs....its more then likely a good DO school.....if those 2 factors are missing....they're not one of the "top" plain and simple
its pretty astounding that so many people on here refuse to believe that a decent percentage of med students actually want to do primary care....even at my school, with its high specialization rate and all.....I have many friends who dream of being a primary care physician...
gotcha...and btw...theres a ton of fields that require internal medicine 1st....including the extremely popular Cardiology and GIAlso, there are plenty of specialties that derive out of primary care, aren't there (like pulmonary med)? I think people mistakenly think of primary care as family medicine and that's it.
I think that people who are aiming for some specialties do want to see what schools send many people into those specialties, though. Sure, we all could very likely change our plans somewhere along the line, but when you're choosing, you think about whether a school is going to beat you into submission for something you may or may not want to do...!! (I know it's not like that!!)
gotcha...and btw...theres a ton of fields that require internal medicine 1st....including the extremely popular Cardiology and GI
AH! I knew there was more than just allergy and pulmonary medicine...!! Thanks.
Average % 2002-2004 graduates entering primary care residencies (as defined by USNews)
WVCOM - 87.3%
MSUCOM - 85.8%
PCSOM - 78.0%
TCOM/UNTHSC - 77.7%
NSUCOM - 77.0%
UNECOM - 67.2%
OSUCOM - 67.0%
LECOM - 61.0%
OUCOM - 58%
TUCOM - 52.0%
DMU - 46.5%
KCOM - 45.7%
NYCOM - 45.0%
PCOM - 37.0%
A sample of MD schools and their %
East Caroline University (Brody) - 62.0%
Drexel University - 52.0%
Temple - 50.0%
University of Chicago (Pritzker) - 47.0%
University of Washington - 46.0%
Harvard - 41.0%
Georgetown University - 39.1%
Johns Hopkins - 37.0%
Stanford - 32.1%
Source: http://www.usnews.com/usnews/edu/grad/webextras/brief/sb_med_primarycare_brief.php
Out of curiousity, why isn't there a published ranking for Osteopathic Schools?
And honestly how do you objectively rank a school without some sort of bias?
The better bet is definitely with older, more established schools. PCOM, TCOM, MSUCOM, OSUCOM, Kirksville. And then the state supported schools also have an edge simply based on funding.
The better bet is definitely with older, more established schools. PCOM, TCOM, MSUCOM, OSUCOM, Kirksville. And then the state supported schools also have an edge simply based on funding.
The "top" med schools are always the ones that are a good fit for you. If that happens to be someone else's "last" ranked, so be it. Find a school that fits you and where you fit it -- THAT is your "top school".
MSUCOM? A little surprised on this one just b/c they have a ridiculous amount of primary care grads. Isn't that why they were ranked in US News for schools putting the most into primary care?
DMU's match list is going to be ridiculously impressive this year from what I have heard so far
Umm........If i'm not mistaken, isn't choosing a specialty a personal decision? Why is it that many premeds insist on claiming that one school is better than the other, or that this school has more students entering a sub-specialty (i.e. highly competitive specialty) so it is a higher ranked school. For the last time people, IT DEPENDS SOLELY ON THE PERSON, NOT THE SCHOOL. If you want to enter a competitive specialty, go to the school that you are most comfortable at, work your butt off, and for the love of all that is holy, stop your bickering.
Also, has anybody else noticed that the schools people list are the ones they are going to attend, or are currently attending (medical students). Well, since I plan on attending either OSUCOM, AZCOM, or my state MD school. Those are the top tier schools! ha ha! see how lame it is!
its pretty astounding that so many people on here refuse to believe that a decent percentage of med students actually want to do primary care....
Yah, DMU. Seen their 2006 Match List??
Just a sampling (number is how many people matched into the specialty):
1 - Radiation Oncology
1 - Neurosurgery
3 - Oto-facial plastic surgery
4 - Diagnostic Radiology
5 - General Surgery
5 - PM & R
7 - Orthopedics
8 - Anesthesiology
17 - Emergency Medicine
This is out of 182 on the list they sent me.
DMU>CCOM !? I have my doubts pertaining to that inequality. Give me some concrete evidence for this.
I have my doubts as to whether Des Moines can compare to Chicago in terms of clinical experience during 3rd and 4th year...
I believe one of those anesthesiology matches ended up in Univesity of Chicago Hospitals...isn't that a tough task to achieve? I wouldnt be surprised if that was the first DO student to get in that program?
DOs currently in University of Chicago Anesthesia Training Program (info such as name, position, and med school alma mater available on their website)
Chief Resident Thiruppathy Sabapathy, D.O.
Graduated from KCUMB
CA-3 Kirk Smith, D.O.
Graduated from Western/COMP
CA-3 Marzanna Vasington, D.O.
Graduated from NYCOM
CA-2 Simon Adanin, D.O.
Graduated from CCOM
CA-1 Jessica Drescher, D.O
Graduated from PCOM
PGY-1 Ryan Keller, D.O.
Graduated from DMU
DMU>CCOM !? I have my doubts pertaining to that inequality. Give me some concrete evidence for this.
I have my doubts as to whether Des Moines can compare to Chicago in terms of clinical experience during 3rd and 4th year...
Thank you Group Theory...I knew someone would come through with the research for me...good to know that if I go sleep doctor I will have a good shot there as apparently they seem to be "DO-friendly"...although the majority are MD's but that is to be expected
I believe one of those anesthesiology matches ended up in Univesity of Chicago Hospitals...isn't that a tough task to achieve? I wouldnt be surprised if that was the first DO student to get in that program? correct me if I am wrong and if I am just equating U of C to it's undergrad and med school rep around chicago?...I also believe it's hard to gauge schools overall but you can probably give a top school per se in each region...PCOM out in the east, DMU in the midwest, TCOM in the South, and I dont really know the western schools?
I think CCOM should be at the top of the list with others. yes i am biased bc i will be attending CCOM. I did also interivew at DMU and the oppurtunities during years 3/4 did not impress me very much. The clinical oppurtunities CCOM seemed much better to me. The facilities at DMU are nicer, yes. But besides years 1+2, when are you going to use them?
*Looking through the 2006 CCOM match list. 11 students matched into an Anesthesiology residency (most of them allopathic)*