What is the ABSOLUTE quickest way to become a Doctor?

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Notice how incredibly diluted most of the responses were. I guess the most honest answer to the original question was that there are steps to becoming a doctor and the structure sets the pace. Becoming a doctor of medicine comes with the responsibility of its merit. In order to be allowed to touch people intimately and intelligently, a student must endure the rigors established professionalism. It's not all about just fixing what is broken.

Some of the answers coming from a few posters who claim to seek position in healthcare; leaves me wondering what in the world they are doing in Health 'Care.'

The question was quite legitimate. (If I may take liberty to reform the question,) What is the quickest way to achieve the honor of becoming a doctor? The poster should just asked further, 'has anyone noticed or found that they could eliminate unnecessary classes or pre-reqs?'

What confuses me is, there is talk about 4 years of med-school along with an uncertain amount of time investment around it. It is almost like people are just making **** up as they go along. There is talk about pre-reqs to get into med school. Then there is again more talk about achieving a BA or BS before a school will consider accepting a student into med school. Well, which is it or is it both?

What seems most logical to me is,
Grabbing enough knowledge to quality for entry into Pre-med (1-2 years?) that seems designed to armor the student for the med school entry exam MCAT. Then once entered into med school there is 2 years of rigorous learning before first year rotations begin and the student gets some real world taste of the medical environment, which then flows into residency in the 4th year.

After which a student of medicine, achieved in all the time requirements and exposure, can take up full-time residency as a hospital physician - (the aforementioned is cloudy to me, as well as with the following), the student's succession of the forth year could also chose to go onto a specialty and spend the next 2 to 4 years expanding in their field of interest. If they chose to stay at the previous level, they could wean themselves out of the hospital setting and into a private practice or ambulatory setting?

The time frame would depend on the stamina of the student, *there ability to learn and retain information, their ability to cope with the bureaucracy of a bias learning environment, the will to get through a collection of information (digging out what is actually required to pass the tests from all the outdated and useless information) and meeting all the timed assignments to prove a student has adequate exposure that is reasonably expected by society.

This is certainly a long winded answer, but how many of you find it accurate? Is there anything that could be condensed without breaching the integrity of the status Doctor or put anyone at risk? Or are we just going to avoid answering based on the stigma and biased crap or the fact that no one really knows?

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This is certainly a long winded answer, but how many of you find it accurate? Is there anything that could be condensed without breaching the integrity of the status Doctor or put anyone at risk? Or are we just going to avoid answering based on the stigma and biased crap or the fact that no one really knows?
Your post suggests you aren't aware of official information sources.

Go to aamc.org for info on MDs. The MSAR will show you what each US MD school requires for prereqs. You then need to confirm what you see in the MSAR by exhaustively researching the admissions policies of schools in which you're interested by getting the latest info on their websites. Note that schools like Northwestern have exactly no prerequisites; good luck getting into Northwestern without the prerequisites.

Go to aacom.org for info on DOs. The info is harder to find, but there's an annual school info report that's free (unlike the MSAR).

Go to FREIDA to find info on ACGME residencies. Go to opportunities.osteopathic.org to find info on AOA residencies.

Pick a school that hosts a residency for a specialty of your choice, and/or Google the specialty's governing board, to see what requirements are for board certification (which is frequently required for credibility, employability and/or advancement).

Go to your state's medical licensing website to see what their policies are for required residency years. There are very few states that will let you practice at all without an intern year, and your ability to get a job with just an intern year is extremely limited.

I suggest that if you're looking to skip the prereqs and skip residency, do this:
1. get a credible MCAT score
2. get an MBA
3. get a Caribbean MD
4. do an intern year wherever you can get one
5. get licensed in a state that has underserviced areas
6. put up a shingle

Best of luck to you.
 
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It's not that you can cut med school by much or even that you should want to. But there are ways to expedite things and it would be ignorant to go to school longer just because it's the "normal" thing to do. So many people make the assumption that just because something is not generally done that it's a bad thing.

First of all, to get into a med school you do need the prerequisites. Those classes will probably be weighed higher than any of the other credits on your transcript. So if you're going to CLEP out of classes or do AP testing do it on classes that are not specifically required. There will be quite alot of them that you can still test out of.

Next put your time into doing a MCAT prep class, STUDY STUDY STUDY, because that score is going to be the real thing that gets you into med school. I'll tell you this, I've seen at least one person get into a reputable MED school with a University of Phoenix degree. How? because she had all the prereqs still (taken at a traditional school) and an awesome MCAT score. Thinking outside the box isn't necessarily lazy. But being lazy in this field of study should be criminal. Examine your own motivations to be sure it's not laziness but instead innovation that is motivating you.
 
And you think medical school is magically different?

I absolutely hate school. I'm bored of dumb kids asking the same dumb questions in class. Professors who don't give a **** having their TAs teach and grade exams. TAs reading from the book and going over the same stuff I just spent 2 hours reading beforehand (while the lecture takes 5 hours).

I'm in school now and realize how much I loathe it.

I'd love to do something actually meaningful. ****, if I could become a general combat surgeon I'd be fine and learn the old way of a mentor - that'd be top notch. Or if I could read on my own. And only show up to class to participate in the lab portions and to take exams.

For example, I took shortcuts in College. Many people don't know this but you can SKIP requirements by taking AP exams (even if you NEVER took the AP class in high school). In college, I took the exam for AP C++. I scored a 5 and they said I did not have to take a computer course.

Could I take AP Chemistry get a 5 on it and be out of the Pre-Req since it worked in college? Stuff like this. Online classes? Can I take more classes at a time?
 
Sorry, but this post just sounds like a generally bad idea. "Quick" paths kill patients. Please slow down and consider patient care. If you want a quick route into medicine, I'd suggest a PA program as it will get you out practicing in about 3 years full-time (1 year for pre-reqs if you plan it right, 2 years for PA school). You'd be a mid-level but there's no way you're going to get to fully licensed and board-certified physician able to practice in the U.S. (post-residency) in less than about 9 years otherwise (assuming no pre-reqs completed). Any program that did allow you to "bypass" those requirements would place at significant risk any patient you were to treat.

Disagree; there are programs abroad where people don't have to take the MCATs/certain science pre-reqs and they are perfectly competent physicians. I'm not saying what the OP is looking for is a smart idea, but still, the traditional north american way is not the only way.
 
Quickest way to become a doctor is going the DNP route.

Now if you want to be a physician? You're **** out of luck. There is no quick route
 
Disagree; there are programs abroad where people don't have to take the MCATs/certain science pre-reqs and they are perfectly competent physicians. I'm not saying what the OP is looking for is a smart idea, but still, the traditional north american way is not the only way.

Perfectly competent isn't the target if your goal is to get a US residency and practice here. The traditional north American way is the only realistic, high yield way if practicing in the US is part of the goal.
 
I have over 15 years of IT / Software development. I think I can do medicine in a quick way. I'm just worried about the patients if it is done quickly. The patient has to come first.
 
Everyone here just seems like this is the only way. You don't even question it. Just accept it. But there has to be other ways. I see all these foreign doctors who are licensed in India and the such coming over here and practicing. None of them seem to be going the 10 year route.

So there are definitely shortcuts but no one seems to be talking about it. Just because someone spent 10 years doing this and another only 6 years. Does NOT mean either one is a better doctor. Time does not equal ability.
Well you guys won't believe a thing I'm about to tell you, I wouldn't either. But might be relevant so I guess I will tell it. A way I think might have worked. I had a lonely childhood after I moved to a small town where I wasn't welcome and constantly bullied. My health has always been poor. So since I was sick a lot and couldn't go out of my yard, since I caught a good beating if I did I started reading medical textbooks when I was in the third grade. Starting with Gray's Anatomy. I moved on to texts on Chemistry, pharmacology, psychopharmacology, neuropsychopharmacology. Medical Physiology, Netters Atlas of Human Anatomy etc. I bummed used textbooks and CPS guides ( compendium of pharmaceuticals and specialties, basically Canada's version of your physicians desk reference ) from my doctors that were out of date by a couple of months. Over the years I continued reading more and more books, going to the medical library, reading journal articles on my own. I'm certainly not a doctor but I was able to get a hold of tests for medical classes from some medical schools and certification exams I was able to pass them with high scores. I found a lot of write ups on diagnostic challenges and found that I could accurately diagnose, and determine correct work-ups as well as determining the correct treatments. It was weird to walk into a doctors, even specialists, be able to sometimes catch them in a mistake and correct them accurately. It scared me because it made me realize they should know this stuff. Some just stood there shocked, some even got mad. I frightened my mother one time in my freshman year of University I was quite sick and she took me to the emergency room. The resident walked in past the curtain, before he could say anything and with my being afflicted with Asperger Syndrome I just didn't think and rudely blurted out my own self-diagnosis "streptococcal pharyngitis by streptococcus group A, streptococcus pyogenes" and told him to write me Clarithromycin 500 mg b.i.d., 10 days" My mom turned beet red with embarrassment and hid her eyes in her hand, about to say something but nothing came out. The resident just looked at the lab report, grinned and said "OK, here's your script for that" and that's what he wrote it as. After he left. My mom still red said to me "You just told the doctor what medication to write. You CAN'T just tell a doctor what medication to prescribe you!" I just stared at my feet and said quietly "Yes I can because I was right, and it is the correct course of treatment." I actually ended up studying mathematics in university but I guess medical school might go a little easier in my case even if not any quicker. That is, if I were a masochist who enjoyed sleep deprivation and decided to apply. This post sounds so conceited and arrogant, I contemplated deleting it. I am not trying to come off as a jerk or a know it all, it just happens to be the way my life turned out. I certainly know I'm not a doctor. I believe the two qualities essential for success in medicine are a great memory but above all, the ability to adequately function without sleep. I lack the latter.
 
Well you guys won't believe a thing I'm about to tell you, I wouldn't either. But might be relevant so I guess I will tell it. A way I think might have worked. I had a lonely childhood after I moved to a small town where I wasn't welcome and constantly bullied. My health has always been poor. So since I was sick a lot and couldn't go out of my yard, since I caught a good beating if I did I started reading medical textbooks when I was in the third grade. Starting with Gray's Anatomy. I moved on to texts on Chemistry, pharmacology, psychopharmacology, neuropsychopharmacology. Medical Physiology, Netters Atlas of Human Anatomy etc. I bummed used textbooks and CPS guides ( compendium of pharmaceuticals and specialties, basically Canada's version of your physicians desk reference ) from my doctors that were out of date by a couple of months. Over the years I continued reading more and more books, going to the medical library, reading journal articles on my own. I'm certainly not a doctor but I was able to get a hold of tests for medical classes from some medical schools and certification exams I was able to pass them with high scores. I found a lot of write ups on diagnostic challenges and found that I could accurately diagnose, and determine correct work-ups as well as determining the correct treatments. It was weird to walk into a doctors, even specialists, be able to sometimes catch them in a mistake and correct them accurately. It scared me because it made me realize they should know this stuff. Some just stood there shocked, some even got mad. I frightened my mother one time in my freshman year of University I was quite sick and she took me to the emergency room. The resident walked in past the curtain, before he could say anything and with my being afflicted with Asperger Syndrome I just didn't think and rudely blurted out my own self-diagnosis "streptococcal pharyngitis by streptococcus group A, streptococcus pyogenes" and told him to write me Clarithromycin 500 mg b.i.d., 10 days" My mom turned beet red with embarrassment and hid her eyes in her hand, about to say something but nothing came out. The resident just looked at the lab report, grinned and said "OK, here's your script for that" and that's what he wrote it as. After he left. My mom still red said to me "You just told the doctor what medication to write. You CAN'T just tell a doctor what medication to prescribe you!" I just stared at my feet and said quietly "Yes I can because I was right, and it is the correct course of treatment." I actually ended up studying mathematics in university but I guess medical school might go a little easier in my case even if not any quicker. That is, if I were a masochist who enjoyed sleep deprivation and decided to apply. This post sounds so conceited and arrogant, I contemplated deleting it. I am not trying to come off as a jerk or a know it all, it just happens to be the way my life turned out. I certainly know I'm not a doctor. I believe the two qualities essential for success in medicine are a great memory but above all, the ability to adequately function without sleep. I lack the latter.

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Is this a joke? You throw up a wall of text about how smart you are and you right away knew your diagnosis and treatment off by heart... except that clarithyromycin is not anywhere close to first line antibiotic for GAS pharyngitis, and the correct dose of clarithromycin for pharyngitis is dosed by weight in children, with the max/adult dose being 250 mg BID....
 
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What is the quickest path to becoming a doctor? No lab pre-reqs taken.

Going foreign? Korea? Europe? Military? Cost does not mater. Location does not matter. Just time.
They’re probably, telling you you can’t do it quicker because they wish they could have done it. Don’t listen to that whole “quick kills patients” nonsense. You couldn’t get licensed if they thought your quick route made a reckless or unqualified physician. Doctors in the US are not significantly better or worse than the average for most developed nations. They basically just get an extra four years before even starting medical school and learn **** they don’t need because actaul medical education doesn’t start until you do the first four years of college like everyone else which is a crock of ****. Not to mention it’s highly competitive in the US and you will never retain or use anything you learned before med school. Residency in the US is also longer. 4 years college, 4 medical school, then 4 in residency to become a general doctor (more if you want to specialize) totals to about 12 years to become an MD in the US. Thanks but no. Go to literally any other developed nation and do it in half the time, 6 years for med school yes I’m including residency; no college needed, much less competitive and cheaper tuition depending where you go. Maybe don’t do the residency in the country you’re going to med school in if you wanna work in the US because you need to pass the MLE before taking a US residency to become licensed to work here. If I’m right it’s 4 years med school outside the US and 4 years residency within it (or maybe foreign physicians only have to do two years I’m not sure). Beware though, residency in the US is also highly competitive and they prioritize domestic students; I’ve heard of foreign physicians waiting literal years for a US residency to become licensed to work. I thought Canada might be a way around this as getting your residency in Canada means you don’t have to get it in the US to get licensed but it’s just as competitive and long in Canada so no point. I know some US states actually are starting programs to reserve spots in residency for foreign physicians so look on the internet for those before making a decision. All told to become a general doctor assuming all goes well could still take about 8 years to become a general doctor if you go to another country for med school and return to the US for residency assuming they let you your first year applying. Still long, maybe I’m wrong about how many years of residency are required of foreign doctors to get licensed in the US, it could be shorter. I might try the same thing. Hope that helps, not like these know-it-all’s that think going to foreign school and being time sensitive will make you a bad physician. Best of luck.
 
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