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I'm about to start PGY1 and hopefully will be in the job market in 4-5 years...and i'm hearing some "horror stories" about current job offers for anesthesiology....is 250k really the current norm???
I'm about to start PGY1 and hopefully will be in the job market in 4-5 years...and i'm hearing some "horror stories" about current job offers for anesthesiology....is 250k really the current norm???
$300K is the more the norm but if you don't mind working hard then $350 is quite likely.
1) what hrs are u wrking to make 300k and what about 350k?
2) if i put in 70 to 80hrs a week, what kind of salary can i expect? my goal is to work my butt off for a few years starting out as an attending and pay off my student loans and put some money away for saving, luckily my significant other also earns close to 100k yearly.
70hrs/week x 200/hr x 44weeks = 616k
You should be at least 450-500k
You can't always work 70hrs/week because sometimes the volume is not there.
It sounds to me (based on everything i've read on this forum) that the golden days of anesthesia is gone and never to return, so are you saying a 600k/yr salary is still possible provided one is willing to work hard? because that's really what i'm looking for, working hard is not an issue for me
what does BFE mean? boondocks forever? pardon my ignorance im new to this
what does BFE mean? boondocks forever? pardon my ignorance im new to this
If you care more about location and work environment than salary, how difficult is it to crack the competitive locales? I'm interested in small mountain towns in places like CA, WA, OR or CO. Seems like a lot of the groups have only a handful of FTE positions in these smaller hospitals, and maybe some locums prn. Is locums a good way to 'get a foot in the door' with these groups?
Bum F*cuk Egypt
Please clarify. If u aren't getting paid for ur vacation. How exactly sell something you don't get paid for?Paid vacation means you get paid even though you don't work. I get 10 weeks unpaid. If I sell it I get paid a lot more. Above poster is wrong.
I don't know about those eat what you kill places.... Who makes the schedule? A couple friends had these kinds of jobs and some anes would schmooze the high rvu case Drs. For requests etc. everyone I know who has done that kind of thing hates it except for one who's in paradise for him so he doesn't care.... Oh n I think chocomorsel on here does eat what you kill and is happy.... It's not for me.
I don't know about those eat what you kill places.... Who makes the schedule? A couple friends had these kinds of jobs and some anes would schmooze the high rvu case Drs. For requests etc. everyone I know who has done that kind of thing hates it except for one who's in paradise for him so he doesn't care.... Oh n I think chocomorsel on here does eat what you kill and is happy.... It's not for me.
Do anesthesiologist bill patient separately for their service, or do they get a cut from the Surgeon pay?
You are correct that such a system can be gamed. It needs to be set up so that gaming is more difficult.
We have a blended unit and we pick our own lineup for the following day based on our position on the call list. The night call guy comes in at 4pm and calls the others going down the call list for the following day. Some people choose to pick lineups with as many units as possible. Others choose to work with their friends. If your day blows up the following day, you have only yourself to blame. We allow patient requests but not surgeon requests. We are very happy with this system.
My group got bought out by the hospital before I got here but before they were eat what you kill.
The biggest factor is always gonna be the quality of the individuals in the practice. If all the partners are stand-up dudes then things will be fair regardless of what the "system" is. If you work with a bunch of douchenozzles they will always find a way to try and screw you for their own personal gain regardless of how "fairly" things are structured. Getting a feel for the culture of the practice and the quality/integrity of the partners is vitally important. Remember that you are interviewing the practice just as much as they are interviewing you. Spend as much time with as many people as you can on interview day.
The way that job offer reads to me is 425k or whatever for 46 weeks of work. meaning you have 6 weeks where you are unpaid. At least that is how our group does it. Basically, at the end of the year there is a value per day of work and everyone gets their days worked times that value in pay.
I get XXX for 42 weeks of work. If I "sell" my vacation, the guy who takes it pays me 1/42 or so of a regular salary, or one weeks worth of pay. So my final yearly salary is XXX + 1 week worth of salary. You are selling your time off for money.
So your read that you would never hit 425 unless you didnt ever take vacation is wrong. actually you may be able to make 425+9 if you only took 5 weeks off, or if you truly didnt have any vacation = 480.
The way that job offer reads to me is 425k or whatever for 46 weeks of work. meaning you have 6 weeks where you are unpaid. At least that is how our group does it. Basically, at the end of the year there is a value per day of work and everyone gets their days worked times that value in pay.
I get XXX for 42 weeks of work. If I "sell" my vacation, the guy who takes it pays me 1/42 or so of a regular salary, or one weeks worth of pay. So my final yearly salary is XXX + 1 week worth of salary. You are selling your time off for money.
So your read that you would never hit 425 unless you didnt ever take vacation is wrong. actually you may be able to make 425+9 if you only took 5 weeks off, or if you truly didnt have any vacation = 480.
Tennessee is a very long state. It's literally a 6 hour drive from the east side to the west side of the state.I was more or less asking if anyone had recently been offered anything in this area.
Tennessee is a very long state. It's literally a 6 hour drive from the east side to the west side of the state.
So saying "rural TN" means nothing.
Most of the urban TN groups have sold out to AMCs and taken the cash.
Rural TN is pretty poor compared to the urban centers. U will be dealing with a lot of Tenncare type of population.
Yes I know very well how "long" TN is and I know their population intimately. I'm a TN native. I was hoping to actually get a response from someone who had an answer to my question. But thanks.
Can more current residents (or attendings that are recrutiting) comment on Job offers they are getting?
thanks.
...if i had to di it again i would look at reno. Bad reputation as a town but actually an outdoor paradise. Kayak park in town and 45 min to tahoe. No state income tax!!
About to graduate. Starting at $370k and bumped to $440k once board certified. We cover one hospital and one surgery center for a total of 16 ORs plus BUSY OB and outside locations. No hearts (unfortunately, I love CV), no transplants, lots of pedi from birth on up but in general they are healthy babies. We have several docs and several CRNAs. The MD on call makes the next day's schedule and you can pick your room and decide to be solo or supervise. Cases done by 7-9pm. We are home call and rarely get called in but we do work post call but usually as extra set of hands and obviously first to go home. We work about every 6th weekend or so. Eight weeks vacation plus two more for CME and stuff like that. I got a moving allowance ($20k) and a signing bonus ($20k). The location for me is great. The town is ~350k people in the mountains with two ski resorts very close by. I signed a few months ago and my patience for the BS and grind of residency dropped off severely and remains barely intact for me to smile and nod through the rest of the academic year.
Congrats, that sounds like a great job. Hospital employed or private practice?
. The town is ~350k people in the mountains with two ski resorts very close by.