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DocEspana said:
<shrug> Not a wolf.

But its okay. Because I have an ace up my sleeve for just this sort of situation. Piper, a little help?
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Gracias piper.

Im glad one person here knows who I am. And that they have my back. If mods want to help me make my point I'm okay with "clear majorty" decision here.
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DocEspana said:
Gracias piper.

Im glad one person here knows who I am. And that they have my back. If mods want to help me make my point I'm okay with "clear majorty" decision here.
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Is that one person you, and you have your own back? :lame:

At least this'll put us on the right road to finding a wolf, one way or another. Really hoping you are one so I've got a reason to show off my smile though.
 
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DocEspana said:
No. thats piper using a lynch veto to save me.
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And yet we have no idea of knowing if that is actually piper's doing, part of your role, an automatic thing piper has no control of, etc. It would be stupid for Piper to come out and explain, too because then the wolves would know who she is. Nice try at setting that up though.
 
Lissarae06 said:
And yet we have no idea of knowing if that is actually piper's doing, part of your role, an automatic thing piper has no control of, etc. It would be stupid for Piper to come out and explain, too because then the wolves would know who she is. Nice try at setting that up though.
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Literally what were you told? Because this nonsense is getting ridiculous. If you wont out the wolf who fed you a lie at least tell me what lie they made up
 
Lissarae06 said:
And yet we have no idea of knowing if that is actually piper's doing, part of your role, an automatic thing piper has no control of, etc. It would be stupid for Piper to come out and explain, too because then the wolves would know who she is. Nice try at setting that up though.
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meant to add this to the original comment i quoted
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your logic is dead on. like 100%. So I cant say its not what I would say in your shoes... but its also totally wrong.
 
DocEspana said:
Literally what were you told? Because this nonsense is getting ridiculous. If you wont out the wolf who fed you a lie at least tell me what lie they made up
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"DocE is a wolf."
 
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DocEspana said:
any time now mods.... Im bored of waiting and want to get onto the everyone eating humble pie part.
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It will just result in a longer night, and I personally don't have time to do the write up right now. If @WildZoo is available and has time to do the write up, then I am fine with ending it a tad early...
 
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DocEspana said:
any time now mods.... Im bored of waiting and want to get onto the everyone eating humble pie part.
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SummerTheLynx said:
Deadlines shall be strictly adhered to of 8 am est for night, and 8 pm est for day. Plurality cases will only be considered when there are less than 15 players left in the game, so don’t even mention it up until then.
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You might be waiting a while...

ETA: Ignore that, STL posted while I was replying.
 
DocEspana said:
Well thats just flat out wrong unless myself and piper are the wolves.'

you should really aks them to elaborate on what their PM actually said, because I'd love to know what yarn they spin before I kill them tomorrow.
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Before you kill them? Interesting.

Also waiting for a response about what their PM said exactly.
 
Official DocE Lynch Tally

DocE - 32 (Lissa, caia, MJ, hedgie, cyndia, BI, vetash, jayna, TP, FML, dyachei, jjohnston, ksmi, WTF, Jilloray, trh, DVMD, Zen, sandy, ResMike, NVH, FFM, lupin, orca, swings, dc, Willow, bats, kaydubs, sobsob, devyn, OG)

lissa - 1 (DocE)

Votes: 33/38

Lynch Deadline: 8pm EST
I won't be able to close any earlier than 6. Them's the breaks.

OitNB gif of the day
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Strike that, change in plans, I will be back to close in 20-30. Will leave it open just in case until then.
 
Left in the room to deliberate again Lissa points out that DocE is definitely a wolf. Everyone thinks that is pretty reasonable and decides that DocE should be lynched. DocE claims, via a phone call into the prison, that yes he is Alex Vause, no he is no a wolf, and that he is being set up. However, words only go so far.

They immediately call Mrs. Figueroa back into the room and declare that DocE is the one responsible for the deaths. She nods her head and then sarcastically says, "Well that's wonderful. Trying to send a person to maximum security that we have ABSOLUTELY NO WAY of accessing. Great job, you bunch of *****s. How in the world do you propose to find the only prisoner that is currently so deep in witness protection that almost NO ONE knows where she is? Bunch of imbeciles. You guys had better do better than that tomorrow night or I will wring, with my bear hands, anyone of your necks who believes that trying to lynch a person that we have NO CLUE where she is, is a good idea. I should just send you all to maximum security and end this already." Mrs. Figueroa throws up her hands and leaves the room.

No one dies...

There are still 38 players remaining in the game.
Golden Girls
1. Orca2011
2. dyachei
3. LetItSnow
4. devyn
5. DVMDream
6. jjohnston
7. ksmi117
8. Jamr0ckin

Others
1. BI
2. OG
3. VetAsh
4. Willow
5. TP
6. FML
7. MJ


Blacks
1. ZooVetHopeful (NVH)
4. Jilary
6. Jayna - Sam Healy
7. Zensing
8. RM

Latinas
1. Caia
2. kaydubs
3. that redhead
4. DocE
5. Lupin
6. FFM
7. Lissa
8. Hedgie
9. WTF

Whites
1. Cyndia
2. Allie
3. Yoshimi = Yoshi
4. swings
5. ameropean_chelsea = pee-in (or pean), vaporeon, vape, chel
6. SOV = ARPWWA...or maybe AARP attachFull187550
7. dcuellar = dc (comics)
8. OneGrainOfSand = Sandy, SandyV, SandraD, Pearl, OGOS
9. batsenecal = batty, bat

Dead People
3. Swinasdasdasdfasdgfasd - Black Cindy, blocker
5. UF Prevet12 - Crazy Eyes, protector, anonymous message sender, item attractor
8. HTML - Blanca Flores, Chaos, lots of actions (imagine that the color is purple, color is not working for me)
2. Rogert - Red, head of WAC, mayor abilities

Night deadline is set for 8 am EST still. If by some miracle everyone gets their stuff in before then, I will close early and allow a long lynch cycle tomorrow. Otherwise, expect night to be closed tomorrow morning, same as usual.
 
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Mfw DocE is an alpha wolf and we fail to lynch him a second time.

Oh well, I'll just be brushing my teeth until tomorrow. Got to keep them shiny for when we finally get a wolf.
 
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Mad Jack said:
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Mfw DocE is an alpha wolf and we fail to lynch him a second time.

Oh well, I'll just be brushing my teeth until tomorrow. Got to keep them shiny for when we finally get a wolf.
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Edit: you werent the one creeping on me. never mind. Nice teeth.

Edit 2: Maybe fancy creepin on me happened to see that I am benign as heck? IDK what her creepin was about.
 
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There are difficult-to-lynch villagers as well in this game, but I still think Alex is more likely a wolf. A gorgeous wolf, but still not someone I'd trust. I'd be willing to try again, although if someone wanted to seer DocE that might be helpful. Especially in case we don't get wolf/villager affiliation after death but do get chaos affiliation for some reason, I feel like it would be good to have confirmation whether DocE is a wolf.
 
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WillowLeaf said:
There are difficult-to-lynch villagers as well in this game, but I still think Alex is more likely a wolf. A gorgeous wolf, but still not someone I'd trust. I'd be willing to try again, although if someone wanted to seer DocE that might be helpful. Especially in case we don't get wolf/villager affiliation after death but do get chaos affiliation for some reason, I feel like it would be good to have confirmation whether DocE is a wolf.
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I don't. I feel like we apparently already have it. He was (apparently) seered, is a wolf, and now he's just trying to get us to waste a seer opportunity seering him again.

I'm ok with killing him to get confirmation about Lissa's source.

"You have to break a few eggs" to get information. - DocE, many games ago. If roles were reversed he'd be insisting we re-lynch.

Check that. He'd actually be insisting someone assassinate the person in case they have a generic lynch avoidance.
 
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LetItSnow said:
I don't. I feel like we apparently already have it. He was (apparently) seered, is a wolf, and now he's just trying to get us to waste a seer opportunity seering him again.

I'm ok with killing him to get confirmation about Lissa's source.

"You have to break a few eggs" to get information. - DocE, many games ago. If roles were reversed he'd be insisting we re-lynch.

Check that. He'd actually be insisting someone assassinate the person in case they have a generic lynch avoidance.
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I forgot he was seered already. My bad, ignore my last post. I was planning to relynch anyway, I was just thinking back to an earlier idea I had that if we weren't sure if we were being given affiliation, we could seer if we come across a wolf with lynch avoidance, so that we would know if we got affiliation. But, like I said, ignore that, my brain was on break mode and being silly.
 
So let me get this straight. DocE is claiming role seer, but someone else is claiming they seered him. Lissa was that seer alignment or role? Cuz something sure doesn't smell right about all of that! All I know is us blacks sure are dropping like flies!
 
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Jilary said:
So let me get this straight. DocE is claiming role seer, but someone else is claiming they seered him. Lissa was that seer alignment or role? Cuz something sure doesn't smell right about all of that! All I know is us blacks sure are dropping like flies!
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I don't think Lissa ever straight up claimed that her source said he'd been seered. It sounds like he was alignment seered, though.
 
<shrug> again. Still not a wolf. And Lissa/her source is still lying. They probably want alex out of the way.

also have none of you watched the damn show? In what world would Alex be a wolf? Especially in season 2 once on the outside.
 
DocEspana said:
<shrug> again. Still not a wolf. And Lissa/her source is still lying. They probably want alex out of the way.

also have none of you watched the damn show? In what world would Alex be a wolf? Especially in season 2 once on the outside.
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Really? She screwed Piper over, manipulated her, and got herself a deal while making it obvious Piper was lying. I thought she was more of a bad character in Season 2. And also a more minor character so I'd be a little surprised if Alex was our seer. It seems like a random role assignment if true.
 
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DocEspana said:
<shrug> again. Still not a wolf. And Lissa/her source is still lying. They probably want alex out of the way.

also have none of you watched the damn show? In what world would Alex be a wolf? Especially in season 2 once on the outside.
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Also, I'm offended you would think I'd miss that show. :p
 
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WillowLeaf said:
Really? She screwed Piper over, manipulated her, and got herself a deal while making it obvious Piper was lying. I thought she was more of a bad character in Season 2. And also a more minor character so I'd be a little surprised if Alex was our seer. It seems like a random role assignment if true.
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Agreed. She's hot, but she totally effed up piper this season, plus the whole ratting her out in the first place thing...

But I did think that crazy eyes would be a wolf as well so :shrug:
 
WillowLeaf said:
Really? She screwed Piper over, manipulated her, and got herself a deal while making it obvious Piper was lying. I thought she was more of a bad character in Season 2. And also a more minor character so I'd be a little surprised if Alex was our seer. It seems like a random role assignment if true.
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She made the right decision in a prisoners dilemma. Once you get past that she is either pipers lover or a pretty good-looking person the rest of the way (as good as a heroin trafficer can look)

She spent the rest of the season more or less being on the run from killers and when she tried to save her own tail (albeit illegally) she confides in the one person she loves.... who brings her ass back to the clink by ratting on her right back. The road did go both ways.
 
touchpause13 said:
Agreed. She's hot, but she totally effed up piper this season, plus the whole ratting her out in the first place thing...

But I did think that crazy eyes would be a wolf as well so :shrug:
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bt-dubs. I have no problem being the hot chick from the show. Got a thrill out of that. Still got the hots for Donna from that 70s show.
 
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DocEspana said:
She made the right decision in a prisoners dilemma. Once you get past that she is either pipers lover or a pretty good-looking person the rest of the way (as good as a heroin trafficer can look)

She spent the rest of the season more or less being on the run from killers and when she tried to save her own tail (albeit illegally) she confides in the one person she loves.... who brings her ass back to the clink by ratting on her right back. The road did go both ways.
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Yeah I do see your point.

The thing about this show in general is that damn near no one is truly evil. I mean yeah, pornstache is kind of horrible, but at some level I can't help but feel bad for the guy. Alex is definitely one of those complex characters that I can see going both ways (no pun intended). I still find the lynch avoidance shadey as hell though and I think we should try it again pending any important information.
 
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DocEspana said:
She made the right decision in a prisoners dilemma. Once you get past that she is either pipers lover or a pretty good-looking person the rest of the way (as good as a heroin trafficer can look)

She spent the rest of the season more or less being on the run from killers and when she tried to save her own tail (albeit illegally) she confides in the one person she loves.... who brings her ass back to the clink by ratting on her right back. The road did go both ways.
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One thing I like about the show is that there are very few characters who are all bad or all good. Poussey is probably the most good, Vee is one of the most bad, and everyone else is somewhere in the gray area.

Wasn't Piper partly motivated by trying to protect Alex though? I didn't think it was just a revenge thing she did.
 
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DocEspana said:
bt-dubs. I have no problem being the hot chick from the show. Got a thrill out of that. Still got the hots for Donna from that 70s show.
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She gives me all kinds of feels with that dark hair and the librarian glasses.....
 
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DocE made a big show about Piper bailing him out, even said "thank you" on the thread... the write up has nothing at all to do with Piper saving you. Yeah, that looks sketchy. And I could totally believe that Alex is a wolf. Yeah the road went both ways, but when Piper thought it water under the bridge and they were all good again, Alex completely manipulated her and set her up so that Alex walked and Piper was totally screwed.
 
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touchpause13 said:
Yeah I do see your point.

The thing about this show in general is that damn near no one is truly evil. I mean yeah, pornstache is kind of horrible, but at some level I can't help but feel bad for the guy. Alex is definitely one of those complex characters that I can see going both ways (no pun intended). I still find the lynch avoidance shadey as hell though and I think we should try it again pending any important information.
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It's especially sketchy because DocE attributed the lynch avoidance to Piper, but the write-up really didn't give any hint at all that it was because of Piper. Unless there are story elements I don't know, which is super possible since I've watched, like, 4 episodes total. STL tends to be blunt in his write-ups about which characters were involved in what actions, and I didn't see Piper anywhere near this lynch avoidance in the write-up.
 
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jjohnston said:
DocE made a big show about Piper bailing him out, even said "thank you" on the thread... the write up has nothing at all to do with Piper saving you. Yeah, that looks sketchy. And I could totally believe that Alex is a wolf. Yeah the road went both ways, but when Piper thought it water under the bridge and they were all good again, Alex completely manipulated her and set her up so that Alex walked and Piper was totally screwed.
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Ninja'd. Damn you, JJ. :)
 
jjohnston said:
DocE made a big show about Piper bailing him out, even said "thank you" on the thread... the write up has nothing at all to do with Piper saving you. Yeah, that looks sketchy. And I could totally believe that Alex is a wolf. Yeah the road went both ways, but when Piper thought it water under the bridge and they were all good again, Alex completely manipulated her and set her up so that Alex walked and Piper was totally screwed.
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Agreed. It sounded like he was unlynchable because he was out of the prison. As DocE pointed out, Piper had nothing to do with Alex being out of prison for a while, and actually was responsible for Alex coming back into the prison.
 
Still waiting on about 6 pms. Not opposed to giving you guys a long lynch cycle, but not going to close unless everything is in.
 
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