Does an ELS disqualify me from USUHS?

[OperatingThetan]

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I was restarted twice in basic training due to excessive bed rest from bronchitis and knee injuries. After nearly being restarted for a 3rd time I told my drill sergeant I wanted out. He granted me an ELS, "entry level separation". I was 18 at the time and am now in my late twenties.

Will an ELS discharge disqualify me from USUHS?

 

[IgD]

What is your RE4 code on the DD214?

 

[OperatingThetan]

What box are you referring to? I do not see anything labeled RE4.

 

[IgD]

I think its blocks 26 (separation code) and 27 (reentry code).

 

[OperatingThetan]

There is no box 26, it skips from 24 to 28.

Under "Character of Service" it says UNCHARACTERIZED.

Under "Type of Separation" it says DISCHARGE.

Under "Narrative Reason for Separation" it says ENTRY LEVEL PERFORMANCE AND CONDUCT.

The DD214 is labeled on the bottom as "veterans administration - 3".

I also have another DD214 labeled "member - 1" that is much shorter and doesn't include the character of service boxes, type of separation, etc.

There is no RE4 or any other "RE" type code anywhere on either form.

 

[IgD]

Not sure the answer sorry. You'll have to show the DD214 to a recruiter.

 

[The White Coat Investor]

Someone put you on bed rest for bronchitis?

 

[OperatingThetan]

I was fortunate to have a good civilian PA treat me.

The military is way too paranoid about sick call rangers (malingerers), especially in basic training. I saw many privates drop out due to serious injuries that would have been preventable, had the E-4 medics treated them early, rather than prescribing indomatecin as if it were spice melange.

 

[Habeed]

Yep. According to them, ibuprofen + water = cure all. Remember all the annoying "drink water!" junk? As if it would prevent muscle sprains, blistered feet, ligament tears, shin splints, infections, and all the other things that can put a basic training soldier down.

And yes, I got sicker and sicker my first 3 weeks and was eventually put on 24 hours of bed rest, during which I caught up on my sleep and took antibiotics. Mysteriously, after a mere 24 hours of this, I got rapidly better and was fine for the rest of training...

 

[OperatingThetan]

The guy bunking across from me had heart problems and was taken to the ER in an ambulance. He came back a day later with a bottle of indomatecin.

Two weeks later he collapsed during morning exercises. If only they had given him ibuprofen instead...

 

[darkosbunny]

I was fortunate to have a good civilian PA treat me.

The military is way too paranoid about sick call rangers (malingerers), especially in basic training. I saw many privates drop out due to serious injuries that would have been preventable, had the E-4 medics treated them early, rather than prescribing indomatecin as if it were spice melange.

The military is paranoid about sick bay commandos because it is a huge problem.

All of us veterans have seen the fat slobs that have to go to medical for mysterious reasons right before a PFT, or right before a Sergeant or Staff Sgt wants to implement some kind of hardcore PT program. All the fat bodies will magically have light duty chits at PT muster.

It gets even worse. I come from an aviation maintenance background. We had guys that would complain about back problems, shoulder problems (which would make them unable to perform aircraft maintenance; instead they sit in the shop doing administrative BS) and the doctors could never find anything. Granted, it's impossible to tell whether or not they're lying or telling the truth, but I would bet dollars to donuts that at least some of them were just riding the gravy train. Nothing in the private sector like it: claim a freak injury, get full pay, benefits, even get promoted while you're not even able to perform the job that you're supposed to be doing.

 

[HotelCo]

Sounds like someone jacked up your 214. You should have a RE Code on there.

 

[OperatingThetan]

I just got a new copy in the mail and it shows my reentry code as 3. The separation code is "JGA".

 

[Habeed]

RE-3 - Individuals who are not qualified for continued Army service, but the disqualification is waiverable. Ineligible for enlistment unless a waiver is granted.

I don't know, but it doesn't look good for a simple reason : USUHS might not 'risk' accepting you because they don't want to go through the hassle of waivering you.

 

[HotelCo]

If the condition is corrected and BUMED (Marine Corps and Navy (Don't know the Army's term for it)) sees it's good to go... It shouldn't be a problem. If it's entirely corrected you may not need a waiver, just get your RE Code changed... for the Marine Corps/Navy it's the "Board for the Correction of Naval Record" look into what the Army has for that.

 

[Gastrapathy]

Nothing in the private sector like it: claim a freak injury, get full pay, benefits, even get promoted while you're not even able to perform the job that you're supposed to be doing.

Yes there is.

 

[Habeed]

"Board for the Correction of Naval Record" look into what the Army has for that.

The catch is, those boards commonly take 1-2 years to do anything. It could be a viable option if he wanted to eventually get HPSP, but not USUHS.

 

[HotelCo]

The catch is, those boards commonly take 1-2 years to do anything. It could be a viable option if he wanted to eventually get HPSP, but not USUHS.

It's better than not being able to go in at all.

 

[Habeed]

Yes, but it means that he should probably just focus on getting into any medical school, and ignore USUHS. Once he gets in, then he could start the ball rolling on getting his records ammended.

Or, better yet, he could just wait until he is an attending. Presumably at that point, if he still wanted to do military med, then they would be more agreeable to working a deal.