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Anyone hear any word on Touro-Nevada? Last year's came out around this time.
No match list yet.
From what I've heard:
-8 ortho matches
-Match at a Stanford afilliated hospital
-Match at Hopkins
-EM at a CA allo program
Actual Hopkins or Hopkins affiliate? and any clue on the field?
SOMA matchlist is out. Notable MD matches (from my quick scan of the list)
Mayo (Mn): Pathology
Mayo (Mn): Psych
Saint Louis University: Med/Peds
UMass: Peds
U of A: Pathology
U of M: Psych
U Wisconsin: Psych
Harbor UCLA: EM
U of Ill-Chicago: IM
U of Texas-Galveston: Anesthesia
Seriously? Harbor UCLA EM? I've been stalking those forums for a while and it was said many times Harbor doesn't take DO's. Glad to see it be done.
Which one are you, bala?
I know right? Guy probably had some serious connections up there. Still here's to hoping that this will crack the door open for future Osteopathic Grads.
I worked at UCLA ER for a year and, talking to the residents, it seemed to be really anti-DO (most of them guffawed when I told them I was applying DO and told me I was crazy). However, there WAS 1 DO from Western. Probably one of the best residents there, too.
NYCOM's match list doesnt usually come out until July. i have heard of some pretty spectacular matches from NYCOM.
Partial NYCOM 2012 match list..
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=212325496111592905354.0004ba9bcdd16c2b1e0f4&msa=0
Surg at mt sinai
it's a prelim surgery spot though, which means that he/she would have to re-apply for a categorical (PGY2-6) spot next year
it's a prelim surgery spot though, which means that he/she would have to re-apply for a categorical (PGY2-6) spot next year
Or it is someone going into Anes., Rads, Ophtho, Derm, Etc. that needed a first year.
I've attached a partial UMDNJ list, it's a de-identified version of our self-reported list and includes 60% of the class until anything official comes out.
From what I know you are pretty much on the ball DocEspana
Some who go into these fields (esp rads I think) fill some of those prelim surgery spots because they like the field of surgery or whatever other reason.
I could be wrong, but I think there are a healthy number of people that do preliminary surgery end up getting a categorical spot eventually..but they are the ones who work their nuts off, meet/impress the right people and are at the right place at the right time. I have no clue how common it is, and I think it might be difficult to find #'s on it. It's a dead end for many, and a very treacherous path for a DO to take. You might just end up as free work for a year then left out to dry...I know someone that happened to.
what happens if you do a prelim surg yr or prelim med year and then dont match with a categorical?
Yes and No. Its not that common to see it that way because most people *dont* use prelim surg to bridge to any of those fields. I do say this entirely out of anecdote, but I do somewhat assume my anecdotes come from a more rich sample that spreads across the US than most peoples. Hopefully someone can find stats to back me up. Prelim surg is simply not that common of a bridge to anything for a few reasons.
derm, rads, and ophtho are all traditionally associated with prelim medicine, not prelim surgery. I would venture say they are almost exclusively prelim medicine.
Anesthesia (and for that matter derm and ophtho) is often integrated. In that you are given a spot formally within an IM or surgery program and its not called prelim, its simply two people who disappear off of the surgery roster after PGY2 and appear on the anesthesia department as PGY3's or whatever the speciifcs may be. This I'm sure has exceptions, but given that my example is pretty common, I think it helps to limit the amount of prelim surgery spots that we'd associate with anesthesia residents.
Most DO's tend to go AOA TRI (if they can) when the program requires you to have an intern year done and doesnt just give you the intern year. I list this one last as maybe that could be changing with the "one-track" policies that havent been shot down yet, and my sample size of DOs is (amusingly) much smaller than my pool of MD residents and graduating 4th years that I've discussed this with. So perhaps this one has sampling bias.
Still, my sparknotes point is this: Assuming a significant amount of prelim surgery residents have anything lined up for PGY2 would appear to be an incorrect assumption, though I'm sure that there are some who do. Additionally prelim surgery is probably even less of a "sure thing" than prelim medicine.
I don't want to be mean or b*tchy, but you're not correct, and as someone who just went through the match, I feel like I have a little more authority here.
There are are a significant number of people that get their 2nd year program, but don't match a tied-in intern year - probably somewhere on the order of 50%. Transitional years in the ACGME world are hard to come by, so people either do medicine or surgery prelim years - again, the good ones can be tough to get. People this year have been afraid of doing AOA TR years because of the whole internship/fellowship thing that may or may not happen, so they take a prelim *something* ACGME to keep that possibility open and not get screwed. Additionally, there are a number of Anesthesia spots that require a surgery prelim year - not a lot but enough. There is a good chance that this person just took a surg prelim year because they want to do surg, but there's also a good chance they have a PGY2 spot lined up, and had to scramble to find an intern year spot in the ACGME world because they're scared of not having the opportunity to do a fellowship. If someone really wanted to do surgery, an AOA TR year somewhere with a surgery program would be a much better option.
then I will respond in equally mature manner and hopefully it will be read as such.
you most definitely do you have more authority then I do. but I am basing my comments on the consensus of probably around 50 rising graduates from various medical schools in america, are overwhelmingly in the field of dermatology anesthesiology and radiology. they're commentary on prelim spots could not be more different than yours. to be fair you give me about 45 allopathic students and only 5 osteo pathic students . I did not have any of them attempt to create a percentile who have to find their own spot.
but they almost all made it very clear that the number that are not integrated or given a transitional year is very low. they generally view prelim surgery as an uncommon way in or an actual last resort, while still admitting it is a way in for a decent percent of people. my data source, again, can be biased as it tends to be the cream of the crop of american students, who may feel more entitled than the average osteopathic student would.
I do not saying this to undermine you, simply to point out what I meant when I said my data source was rich
is there a LECOM - Erie match list for 2012?
is there a LECOM - Erie match list for 2012?
is there a LECOM - Erie match list for 2012?
We were told it'd be up 2 weeks ago...you tell me.What about PCOM Philadelphia?
Here it is.
Here it is.
I really like how your school assembled their match list, fun and informative, kudos.
Agreed. I like the extra information, like "took USMLE?", "First Choice?", "Rotate There?", and "Advice".
Answer me this: How can someone not take the USMLE yet match "1st choice" at Univ of Maryland Gen-Surg without rotating there?
Every now and then there will be an exceptional student who's qualification cant be judged just by his/her score. Ex: someone from my school few yrs back was the coauthor of a chapter of a surgery textbook. She went onto a very good residency in surgery. But for majority of students, your grades, board scores, # papers are a good representation of who you are.