Who are DO's that changed the way medicine is practiced?

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Since a lot of people people were not happy with my other question on "DO success stories," I decided to find out who are living DOs that changed our thinking about practice and/or science of medicine? There are many MD examples of people who got Nobel prizes and etc. Here, I am talking about DOs who are famous from their science and/or clinical work... and I am not talking about TV-personalities such as DR. 90210

my previous thread:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=502372
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Dr. Rob Gotlin would be one. He has his own radio show on ESPN 1050 in New York on Saturday Mornings 6-7. He is a DO who graduated from NOVA. He currently is part of the medical staff for the Yankee's, Knicks, Libery, New Jersy Nets and US Rugby.

Dr. Rob Gotlin, the Director of Orthopedic and Sports Rehab at Beth Israel Medical Center, hosts this show every Saturday morning from 6am-7am exclusively on 1050. The program focuses on a variety of subjects, including how "Weekend Warriors" can stay fit, an update and understanding of the major injuries suffered by athletes from our areas teams, dealing with performance enhancing drugs in sports, and roles of coaches, parents, and kids in youth sports.
http://stations.espn.go.com/stations/1050espnradio/show?showId=drrob

I had the pleasure of listening to him speak at NYCOM. Very nice guy. He must be good at what he does otherwise he wouldn't be working with sports teams.
 
stmclovin said:
Since a lot of people people were not happy with my other question on "DO success stories," I decided to find out who are living DOs that changed our thinking about practice and/or science of medicine? There are many MD examples of people who got Nobel prizes and etc. Here, I am talking about DOs who are famous from their science and/or clinical work... and I am not talking about TV-personalities such as DR. 90210

my previous thread:

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=502372
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There aren't any. DO's don't do research. How could they ever win a nobel prize? :rolleyes:
 
Kappy1 said:
DO's don't do research. How could they ever win a nobel prize? :rolleyes:
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You're kidding, right? You mean you don't personally know any DO's who do research?

I get 5239 PubMed hits on osteopathic (just to find DO schools cited). I don't see much published in "Nature" but there's plenty of J. Palliative Med, Neurodegen. Disease, J. Fam Pract, J Parasitology.
 
DrMidlife said:
You're kidding, right? You mean you don't personally know any DO's who do research?

I get 5239 PubMed hits on osteopathic (just to find DO schools cited). I don't see much published in "Nature" but there's plenty of J. Palliative Med, Neurodegen. Disease, J. Fam Pract, J Parasitology.
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I think your sarcasm detector is broken.
Silly premeds :laugh:
 
DrMidlife said:
You're kidding, right? You mean you don't personally know any DO's who do research?

I get 5239 PubMed hits on osteopathic (just to find DO schools cited). I don't see much published in "Nature" but there's plenty of J. Palliative Med, Neurodegen. Disease, J. Fam Pract, J Parasitology.
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you couldn't tell?:rolleyes:
 
DrMidlife said:
You're kidding, right? You mean you don't personally know any DO's who do research?

I get 5239 PubMed hits on osteopathic (just to find DO schools cited). I don't see much published in "Nature" but there's plenty of J. Palliative Med, Neurodegen. Disease, J. Fam Pract, J Parasitology.
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:rolleyes:= sarcastic. Well I better stick to my day job becoming a doctor not a comedian. I wrote it like that for pre-meds who still can't grasp the idea that DO=MD. Not that you are one of them at all (i mean that seriously)
I just had a post above with my DO success story. I forgot to add that Dr. Gotlin has published many book and in medical journals as well.
 
You know, I actually get what the OP is getting at. I don't have the time to sit down and research a bunch of names, but I don't see how it can hurt to finally silence the misconception that DO's can't be as good as MD's.

This is a common misconception, and making a decent list of notable DO's would help educate the "pre-meds who can't grasp the idea that DO=MD."

That list on the AOA website is a start, but six names, does not prove anything. I think the OP is asking for us to prove, once and for all, that DO's are equal to MD's and can do great things.

If this is done, perhaps people will finally stop asking if it's possible...eh?

Here, I'll start:

1. Eric Reiner, DO. Assistant Professor of Diagnostic Radiology at Yale University.
http://radiology.yale.edu/faculty/reiner.html

2. J.S. Benseler, DO. Author of the popular book: The Radiology Handbook: A Pocket Guide to Medical Imaging. www.jaoa.org/cgi/reprint/107/4/144.pdf.

Add more if you want.
 
digitlnoize said:
You know, I actually get what the OP is getting at. I don't have the time to sit down and research a bunch of names, but I don't see how it can hurt to finally silence the misconception that DO's can't be as good as MD's.
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it is a start but i dont think it will "finally" silence the misconception. too many people out there who aren't willing and don't want to learn about it.
 
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maybe i'm way off base here, but i really don't understand how this matters. who cares if no DO has ever done integrated plastics/won a nobel prize/been the awesomest of awesome? that just means that i get to be the first. if everyone looked to the past as a criteria for how far they could go, no one would accomplish anything. instead of looking for DOs that have been great, go out and be a great DO...actions speak louder than words
 
bth7 said:
Enrico Fazzini


bth
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I think you mean this guy:

enrico-palazzo.jpg
 
Ronald Blanck, DO formerly served as Surgeon General of the Army

Enrico Fazzini, DO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_Fazzini), famous neurologist, Parkinson's researcher and physician to Pop John Paul II

Phog Allen, DO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phog_Allen), famous coach

William Anderson, DO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_G._Anderson), civil rights leader, physician to Martin Luther King, Jr.

Will Kirby, DO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Kirby), dermatologist & TV star

Gideon Rodan, DO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gideon_Rodan), famous researcher

Joseph Mercola, DO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola), author several best sellers

Stephen Gleason, DO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Gleason), President Clinton's physician

And others: Famous and Infamous Osteopathic physicians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Osteopathic_physicians)


some may be alittle dated... pulled from numerous sources. citations not noted. sorry.
 
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DannMann99 said:
Ronald Blanck, DO formerly served as Surgeon General of the Army

Enrico Fazzini, DO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enrico_Fazzini), famous neurologist, Parkinson's researcher and physician to Pop John Paul II

Phog Allen, DO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phog_Allen), famous coach

William Anderson, DO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_G._Anderson), civil rights leader, physician to Martin Luther King, Jr.

Will Kirby, DO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Will_Kirby), dermatologist & TV star

Gideon Rodan, DO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gideon_Rodan), famous researcher

Joseph Mercola, DO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Mercola), author several best sellers

Stephen Gleason, DO (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Gleason), President Clinton's physician

And others: Famous and Infamous Osteopathic physicians (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Osteopathic_physicians)


some may be alittle dated... pulled from numerous sources. citations not noted. sorry.
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There's lots of questionable information in your post, or at least exaggerations.

Enrico Fazzini wasn't Pope John Paul II's 'physician' - he likely was consulted at some point due to his research on OMT and Parkinsonism, which has been ridiculously overhyped by OMT advocates looking to justify the use of OMT to treat non-musculoskeletal problems. To call him the Pope's physician is a stretch.

Same thing with Stephen Gleason - a quick search shows that he was an adviser to former President Clinton but was not his personal physician - that would be Connie Mariano, MD.

Phog Allen - an early osteopath but not a 'medicine-changer'.

William Anderson- not clear if he was Dr. King's "physician" or just someone who worked with him. He was one of the first DO's trying to get practice privileges in NY so I'll give you 1/2 credit for this one.

Will Kirby- more celebrity than 'medicine-changer'.

Joseph Mercola=snake oil salesman, anti-vaccines. Not a great example of a 'game-changer' for medicine.

Ronald Blanck-first DO Surgeon General of the army, definitely a game changer IMO :thumbup:

The only ones who would really be medicine-changers on the list would be Gideon Rodan for his work with bisphosphonates, and Ronald Blanck.
 
wanna_be_do said:
There's lots of questionable information in your post, or at least exaggerations.

Enrico Fazzini wasn't Pope John Paul II's 'physician' - he likely was consulted at some point due to his research on OMT and Parkinsonism, which has been ridiculously overhyped
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"Consulted due to his research on OMT and Parkinson's" ????
"Overhyped" ?????

Here's a partial listing of Fazzini's publications. He's only been published in every leading neurology journal that exists. I wouldn't call his research overhyped. I'd call him an expert. And that's probably why the Vatican consulted him.

bth

  • Cognitive functioning after pallidotomy for refractory Parkinson's disease.
    J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry. 1998 Aug;65(2):150-4.
    PMID: 9703163

  • Preoperative indicators of clinical outcome following stereotaxic pallidotomy.
    Neurology. 1997 Oct;49(4):1083-90.
    PMID: 9339694

  • Metabolic correlates of pallidal neuronal activity in Parkinson's disease.
    Brain. 1997 Aug;120 ( Pt 8):1315-24.
    PMID: 9278625

  • Stereotactic pallidotomy for Parkinson's disease: a long-term follow-up of unilateral pallidotomy.
    Neurology. 1997 May;48(5):1273-7.
    PMID: 9153456

  • Efficacy of bilateral pallidotomy.
    Neurosurg Focus. 1997 Mar 15;2(3):e8.
    PMID: 15096015

  • Selection criteria for unilateral posteroventral pallidotomy.
    Acta Neurochir Suppl. 1997;68:18-23.
    PMID: 9233408

  • Cholinesterase inhibition in Parkinson's disease.
    J Neurol Neurosurg Psychiatry. 1996 Sep;61(3):324-5.
    PMID: 8795611

  • Deprenyl and levodopa and Parkinson's disease progression.
    Ann Neurol. 1996 Aug;40(2):267-8.

  • Central motor loop oscillations in parkinsonian resting tremor revealed by magnetoencephalography.
    Neurology. 1996 May;46(5):1359-70.
    PMID: 8628483

  • Regional metabolic correlates of surgical outcome following unilateral pallidotomy for Parkinson's disease.
    Ann Neurol. 1996 Apr;39(4):450-9.
    PMID: 8619523

  • Current trends in the pharmacologic and surgical treatment of Parkinson's disease.
    J Am Osteopath Assoc. 1996 Apr;96(4):228-32.
    PMID: 8935428

  • Effects of posteroventral pallidotomy on Parkinson's disease.
    Adv Neurol. 1996;69:585-90. No abstract available.
    PMID: 8615183

  • Characteristics of pallidal neuronal discharges in Parkinson's disease patients.
    Adv Neurol. 1996;69:123-8.
    PMID: 8615119

  • Stereotactic ventral pallidotomy for Parkinson's disease.
    Neurology. 1995 Apr;45(4):753-61.
    PMID: 7723966

  • Anatomic and physiological considerations in pallidotomy for Parkinson's disease.
    Acta Neurochir Suppl. 1995;64:9-12.
    PMID: 8748575

  • Pharmacokinetics and in vivo specificity of [11C]dl-threo-methylphenidate for the presynaptic dopaminergic neuron.
    Synapse. 1994 Oct;18(2):152-60.
    PMID: 7839313

  • Neuropsychiatric and neuropsychological findings in conduct disorder and attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder.
    J Neuropsychiatry Clin Neurosci. 1994 Summer;6(3):245-9.
    PMID: 7950346

  • Neurophysiological properties of pallidal neurons in Parkinson's disease.
    Ann Neurol. 1994 May;35(5):586-91.
    PMID: 8179304

  • Anatomic and physiological considerations in pallidotomy for Parkinson's disease.
    Stereotact Funct Neurosurg. 1994;62(1-4):53-60.
    PMID: 7631089

  • Striatal hypometabolism distinguishes striatonigral degeneration from Parkinson's disease.
    Ann Neurol. 1993 May;33(5):518-27.
    PMID: 8498828
 
Dr. James N. Weinstein D.O., M.S.

Dartmouth Medical School, Chair of Orthopaedic Surgery

Director, The Dartmouth Institute for Health Policy and Clinical Practice

Medical Director, Center for Shared Decision Making

Editor-in-Chief, Spine
 
I don't believe medicine should ever change! it's completely fine just the way things are!! of course that's why I went to a DO school...

(between you me and AT Still, someone had a paper to write)
 
Phog Allen was a DO? That's badass.


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bth7 said:
"Consulted due to his research on OMT and Parkinson's" ????
"Overhyped" ?????

Here's a partial listing of Fazzini's publications. He's only been published in every leading neurology journal that exists. I wouldn't call his research overhyped. I'd call him an expert. And that's probably why the Vatican consulted him.
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I went to NYCOM, where he lectures, and was commenting on how his work with PD and OMT was 'over-hyped' there for the reasons I already stated. I also called into question the "physician to the Pope" statement. While literally it's true that a consultant can call themselves a patient's physician even if there is only one clinical encouter, the implication goes beyond that, which is what I pointed out.

In any case, all of the references you cited are 10 years old or more - so while Dr. Fazzini may be well-known and an expert in the field, he doesn't seem to be on the cutting edge of PD these days.

I'll give 1/2 credit, though ;) :D
 
Throwing Ross Zafonte, DO into the mix. He has been a pioneer in the field of physical medicine and rehabilitation especially in regard to treatment of traumatic brain injury. He is currently chair of PM&R at Harvard Medical School.
 
Wasn't Ann Wales, DO kind of a pioneer in the US? She only recently died.
 
Kappy1 said:
There aren't any. DO's don't do research. How could they ever win a nobel prize? :rolleyes:
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Sacasm I know, but sadly I did have one of my interviewers at a school tell me this when I asked about research activities

"Well you better go to a M.D. school if you want to do research, D.O.'s are not focused on research, we are focused on patient care"

Amazing to me that these two things have to be mutually exclusive
 
chinamazing said:
Dr. James N. Weinstein D.O., M.S.

Dartmouth Medical School, Chair of Orthopaedic Surgery

Director, The Dartmouth Institute for Health Policy and Clinical Practice

Medical Director, Center for Shared Decision Making

Editor-in-Chief, Spine
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woohoo!!! CCOM grad.
 
I heard of this up and comer osteopath. Think his name is
Dr. DannMann99; D.O.
 
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